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[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Ok, here's a new question for you all:

If Bioware were to go back to their DA:O roots and give us the opportunity to asks our companions questions about their lives growing up, what back story do you think they'll give Cullen? Do you think he was orphan, taken to the Chantry as a baby/youngster? Did he have a happy upbringing with a noble family and joined the Templars when he came of age? Did he join the Templars to escape a life of petty crime? Did he join to escape an unhappy home life? Etc.

What's become your canon story regarding Cullen's life before joining the Templar order?

I think he was a orphan.  I liked part of the idea of this one fan fic writer's idea of him ending up being Greagoir's son.

I like the idea of him being an orphan dumped on the Chantry steps as a baby too. It sounds so cruel saying that, but I just figure that since they seem to be going all out with his tragic life they may as well go the whole 9 yards and give him a really ****ty childhood as well lol.

Plus I love the idea of him finally finding something good in the world (our new DA3 hero) but being scared to get involved with her since everything he's ever loved or held dear has been torn away from him or ruined, especially if she's a Mage. So when he does finally get the girl it'll feel like we actually accomplished something good by giving him a bit of happiness at last.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Did I imagine it, or does he mention in either DA:O or DA2 about joining the order because he wanted to be a knight or something like that? (I've read so much fanfic recently I've forgotten what actually happens in the game and what doesn't lol.)

You may be thinking of Cullen's companion quest from Karma's companions (the sorta silly one with the dragons), as he certainly talks about it there. Dunno if the notion might also feature in a fanfic.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did I imagine it, or does he mention in either DA:O or DA2 about joining the order because he wanted to be a knight or something like that? (I've read so much fanfic recently I've forgotten what actually happens in the game and what doesn't lol.)

You may be thinking of Cullen's companion quest from Karma's companions (the sorta silly one with the dragons), as he certainly talks about it there. Dunno if the notion might also feature in a fanfic.

He has a modded companion quest? I've never seen that, is it on YouTube? How'd they get him to talk about stuff like that if it's a mod?

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did I imagine it, or does he mention in either DA:O or DA2 about joining the order because he wanted to be a knight or something like that? (I've read so much fanfic recently I've forgotten what actually happens in the game and what doesn't lol.)

You may be thinking of Cullen's companion quest from Karma's companions (the sorta silly one with the dragons), as he certainly talks about it there. Dunno if the notion might also feature in a fanfic.

He has a modded companion quest? I've never seen that, is it on YouTube? How'd they get him to talk about stuff like that if it's a mod?

 Oooooooh yes!!!  The mod allows you to recruit him as a companion in DA:O, then he has a few of his own quests along with a romance that's really nicely written. So, for one of his quests, he talks about how he always wanted to be a knight and slay a dragon or something. So ... you do. He won't sleep with you til after that. He's not voiced, though, so there's probably not much to see in a youtube vid.

Of course, that calls for the obligatory sexy-time screenshot of a worried looking Cullen:

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did I imagine it, or does he mention in either DA:O or DA2 about joining the order because he wanted to be a knight or something like that? (I've read so much fanfic recently I've forgotten what actually happens in the game and what doesn't lol.)

You may be thinking of Cullen's companion quest from Karma's companions (the sorta silly one with the dragons), as he certainly talks about it there. Dunno if the notion might also feature in a fanfic.

He has a modded companion quest? I've never seen that, is it on YouTube? How'd they get him to talk about stuff like that if it's a mod?

 Oooooooh yes!!!  The mod allows you to recruit him as a companion in DA:O, then he has a few of his own quests along with a romance that's really nicely written. So, for one of his quests, he talks about how he always wanted to be a knight and slay a dragon or something. So ... you do. He won't sleep with you til after that. He's not voiced, though, so there's probably not much to see in a youtube vid.

Of course, that calls for the obligatory sexy-time screenshot of a worried looking Cullen:

Aw, that's cute. Thank the Maker for modders!

[Dunquixote]

Amen, though I don't think I'm going to download that mod.

Yay. I think I'm getting close to a "romance" scene in my story. -let's out an evil grin-

[Dunquixote]

Or a templar and a mage xD. That would be cute to me.

[LolaLei]

So, next question Ladies! (The others are gonna have a lot to catch up on later!)

What is everyone's thoughts on Lyrium addiction? Do you believe that the Chantry give Templar's lyrium in order to keep their hold on them since it's addictive? How long do you think it takes for the addiction to kick in? Can a Templar survive without lyrium if they choose to go cold turkey or would it drive them mental? What are the long term effects of lyrium on the body?

I actually worry about Cullen and the possibility of his lyrium addiction becoming problematic. It would be awesome to see the effects of lyrium withdrawl happening to him in camp though, I could just imagine our PC being woken up in the middle of the night to the sounds of cursing and belongings being thrown around, getting up to investigate she finds Cullen panicking, ransacking his tent looking for his vial as the lack of lyrium in his blood starts to take effect and our PC has to try and calm him down or stroke his hair and soothe him (if you're romancing him) until he falls asleep after he's finally taken his dose. It's horrible to think that one day he'll end up like that old Templar we met back in Ferelden outside the Chantry who's mind had completely gone.

... Hm, that's a thought. What will the Templars do about their lyrium now that they've broken away from the Chantry, since it's the Chantry that controls the lyrium supply from the Dwarfs. Even on the black market they'd never be able to acquire enough to sustain a whole army for long.

Modifié par LolaLei, 18 avril 2012 - 08:18 .

[LolaLei]

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I like the idea of him being an orphan dumped on the Chantry steps as a baby too. It sounds so cruel saying that, but I just figure that since they seem to be going all out with his tragic life they may as well go the whole 9 yards and give him a really ****ty childhood as well lol.

Plus I love the idea of him finally finding something good in the world (our new DA3 hero) but being scared to get involved with her since everything he's ever loved or held dear has been torn away from him or ruined, especially if she's a Mage. So when he does finally get the girl it'll feel like we actually accomplished something good by giving him a bit of happiness at last.

Wow you guys have been busy!
I sort of like the idea for Culen to have had a troubled life, I would love it of his parents turned out to mages or something! oh the irony

Imagine if he found out his mother was a Mage who was killed at the hand of the Templars! Ooooo drama!!!

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

Amen, though I don't think I'm going to download that mod.

Yay. I think I'm getting close to a "romance" scene in my story. -let's out an evil grin-

I'm at the romance scene in my story too, except I don't know whether to let them go through with it or save it until later and make the story longer?

[Dunquixote]

If you're happy with how you're story is going, save it until later to make it longer. If it helps you any, what I'm planning, for this particular story, I'm planning on not breaking them up. The second story I hope to write, will be on the events on Origins, and there, there will be an "unsaid" break off, though, as I have suggested in the prologue of my story, my character never broke it off; it was more of a mental break off on Cullen's part. The amulet she will end up crafting and giving to Cullen--he will return it to her after the "Broken Circle," because he just doesn't want to end up hurting her from his new perspective on mages. Alfidaiya has the amulet returned to him anyways along with her journals, perhaps still holding onto a glimmer of hope of there still being something between her and Cullen.

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

If you're happy with how you're story is going, save it until later to make it longer. If it helps you any, what I'm planning, for this particular story, I'm planning on not breaking them up. The second story I hope to write, will be on the events on Origins, and there, there will be an "unsaid" break off, though, as I have suggested in the prologue of my story, my character never broke it off; it was more of a mental break off on Cullen's part. The amulet she will end up crafting and giving to Cullen--he will return it to her after the "Broken Circle," because he just doesn't want to end up hurting her from his new perspective on mages. Alfidaiya has the amulet returned to him anyways along with her journals, perhaps still holding onto a glimmer of hope of there still being something between her and Cullen.

In my story I'm thinking about having him go away for awhile to rejoin the Templars in order to save her life after they are caught fratenising (he was under orders to hunt her down to bring her to the divine for crimes she had commited previously) but my character managed to talk him into working with her until her quest is finished, where she's promises that she'll accompany him to the divine to serve her punishment. It all back fires and Cullen ends up having to save her and the other companions lives... then finally they make luuuurve.

... Or I might just let them shag in the Chateau Du Marquis gardens in the rain and end the story there lol.

[Dunquixote]

Have either of you read "What we Become?" The writer to that did an excellent job at portraying her idea of the psychological and physical effects taking a templar off of lyrium does. It broke my heart reading about Cullen suffering though =( (just the fact of him being addicted makes me sad )

[LolaLei]

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

So, next question Ladies! (The others are gonna have a lot to catch up on later!)

What is everyone's thoughts on Lyrium addiction? Do you believe that the Chantry give Templar's lyrium in order to keep their hold on them since it's addictive? How long do you think it takes for the addiction to kick in? Can a Templar survive without lyrium if they choose to go cold turkey or would it drive them mental? What are the long term effects of lyrium on the body?

I actually worry about Cullen and the possibility of his lyrium addiction becoming problematic. It would be awesome to see the effects of lyrium withdrawl happening to him in camp though, I could just imagine our PC being woken up in the middle of the night to the sounds of cursing and belongings being thrown around, getting up to investigate she finds Cullen panicking, ransacking his tent looking for his vial as the lack of lyrium in his blood starts to take effect and our PC has to try and calm him down (or stroke his hair and soothe him if your romancing him until he falls asleep after he's finally taken his dose.) It's horrible to think that one day he'll end up like that old Templar we met back in Ferelden outside the Chantry who's mind had completely gone.

... Hm, that's a thought. What will the Templars do about their lyrium now that they've broken away from the Chantry, since it's the Chantry that controls the lyrium supply from the Dwarfs. Even on the black market they'd never be able to acquire enough to sustain a whole army for long.

I've been wondering about this too. I imagine they just get it from lyrium smugglers though I doubt there'd all be enough. Clearly Lambert wasn't thinking straight when he broke apart from the chantry lol. The idea of Cullen ending up like that templar in denerim breaks my heart, though I think adding the effects of lyrium withdrawl to his story could make it really interesting. 

This reminds me of this crazy fanfic I read of Cullen and Carver a long time ago. They were stuck in some place with mage hawke and they were starting to go through lyrium withdrawl so they starting drinking mage hawke's blood! I had to check to make sure I was reading about Dragon Age Cullen and not Twilight lol!

I suspect there's gonna be a lot of derranged lyrium withdrawn Templars running a muck in Orlais! It'll be grand!

Drinking Hawke's blood? That's kinda weird. I read one where Cullen ended up getting addicted to sex with female Mage Hawke because the magic in her... erm... bodily fluids did the same job as lyrium except 10 times better LOL.

[Dunquixote]

LolaLei wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

If you're happy with how you're story is going, save it until later to make it longer. If it helps you any, what I'm planning, for this particular story, I'm planning on not breaking them up. The second story I hope to write, will be on the events on Origins, and there, there will be an "unsaid" break off, though, as I have suggested in the prologue of my story, my character never broke it off; it was more of a mental break off on Cullen's part. The amulet she will end up crafting and giving to Cullen--he will return it to her after the "Broken Circle," because he just doesn't want to end up hurting her from his new perspective on mages. Alfidaiya has the amulet returned to him anyways along with her journals, perhaps still holding onto a glimmer of hope of there still being something between her and Cullen.

In my story I'm thinking about having him go away for awhile to rejoin the Templars in order to save her life after they are caught fratenising (he was under orders to hunt her down to bring her to the divine for crimes she had commited previously) but my character managed to talk him into working with her until her quest is finished, where she's promises that she'll accompany him to the divine to serve her punishment. It all back fires and Cullen ends up having to save her and the other companions lives... then finally they make luuuurve.

... Or I might just let them shag in the Chateau Du Marquis gardens in the rain and end the story there lol.

HOT

Go with what your gut, heart, and creativity tells you.  Even though my fiance kept commenting on "that's unlikely" when I told him how cute it was for the author of "What we were" "What we are" "What we become" "What we choose" to make Cullen and her Amell engaged; I think (not sure if she wrote that when DA2 was already out or not) that whether it's not, the whole uniqueness to her story makes it more cherishable for the reader--or at least for me.  I don't know if fans like reading stories that are all exactly alike.

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

Have either of you read "What we Become?" The writer to that did an excellent job at portraying her idea of the psychological and physical effects taking a templar off of lyrium does. It broke my heart reading about Cullen suffering though =( (just the fact of him being addicted makes me sad )

Yeah I've read that one, it's very well written!

[Dunquixote]

I don't think my fiance will ever understand the beauty to fan fiction and creativity. J/k--maybe. But then again, I don't think he'll ever understand why the obsession over a pixel created character. I still can't believe he hasn't found a female character he crushes on (not that I'd be happy about that --yes. I'm a hypocrite xD).

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

If you're happy with how you're story is going, save it until later to make it longer. If it helps you any, what I'm planning, for this particular story, I'm planning on not breaking them up. The second story I hope to write, will be on the events on Origins, and there, there will be an "unsaid" break off, though, as I have suggested in the prologue of my story, my character never broke it off; it was more of a mental break off on Cullen's part. The amulet she will end up crafting and giving to Cullen--he will return it to her after the "Broken Circle," because he just doesn't want to end up hurting her from his new perspective on mages. Alfidaiya has the amulet returned to him anyways along with her journals, perhaps still holding onto a glimmer of hope of there still being something between her and Cullen.

In my story I'm thinking about having him go away for awhile to rejoin the Templars in order to save her life after they are caught fratenising (he was under orders to hunt her down to bring her to the divine for crimes she had commited previously) but my character managed to talk him into working with her until her quest is finished, where she's promises that she'll accompany him to the divine to serve her punishment. It all back fires and Cullen ends up having to save her and the other companions lives... then finally they make luuuurve.

... Or I might just let them shag in the Chateau Du Marquis gardens in the rain and end the story there lol.

HOT

Go with what your gut, heart, and creativity tells you.  Even though my fiance kept commenting on "that's unlikely" when I told him how cute it was for the author of "What we were" "What we are" "What we become" "What we choose" to make Cullen and her Amell engaged; I think (not sure if she wrote that when DA2 was already out or not) that whether it's not, the whole uniqueness to her story makes it more cherishable for the reader--or at least for me.  I don't know if fans like reading stories that are all exactly alike.

I've kinda got writers block though. I'm not sure how to end the quick trist in the garden (they're just kissing and it's starting to get a bit hot 'n' heavy) I know I want them to hear something that startles them and makes them stop what they're doing, snapping them back to the reality of the "sin" they were about to commit and return back to the companions waiting for them in a tavern... I just don't know how to write it in without it sounding disjointed or cheesy lol.

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

I don't think my fiance will ever understand the beauty to fan fiction and creativity. J/k--maybe. But then again, I don't think he'll ever understand why the obsession over a pixel created character. I still can't believe he hasn't found a female character he crushes on (not that I'd be happy about that --yes. I'm a hypocrite xD).

Not even Lara Croft? I thought all men went wild over her polygon ****** at some stage or another!

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

So, next question Ladies! (The others are gonna have a lot to catch up on later!)

What is everyone's thoughts on Lyrium addiction? Do you believe that the Chantry give Templar's lyrium in order to keep their hold on them since it's addictive? How long do you think it takes for the addiction to kick in? Can a Templar survive without lyrium if they choose to go cold turkey or would it drive them mental? What are the long term effects of lyrium on the body?

I actually worry about Cullen and the possibility of his lyrium addiction becoming problematic. It would be awesome to see the effects of lyrium withdrawl happening to him in camp though, I could just imagine our PC being woken up in the middle of the night to the sounds of cursing and belongings being thrown around, getting up to investigate she finds Cullen panicking, ransacking his tent looking for his vial as the lack of lyrium in his blood starts to take effect and our PC has to try and calm him down or stroke his hair and soothe him (if you're romancing him) until he falls asleep after he's finally taken his dose. It's horrible to think that one day he'll end up like that old Templar we met back in Ferelden outside the Chantry who's mind had completely gone.

... Hm, that's a thought. What will the Templars do about their lyrium now that they've broken away from the Chantry, since it's the Chantry that controls the lyrium supply from the Dwarfs. Even on the black market they'd never be able to acquire enough to sustain a whole army for long.

That's something to ponder. Here's what the wiki says re: the Chantry:

"Lyrium is used by the Chantry to control the templars: templars are given lyrium to "develop their talents" (though Alistair seems to doubt whether it actually has any real effect), which also leaves them addicted and thus within the control of the Chantry, which controls the lyrium trade."

And here's what the codex says on prolonged use:

"Lyrium has its costs, however. Prolonged use becomes addictive, the cravings unbearable. Over time, templars grow disoriented, incapable of distinguishing memory from present, or dream from waking. They frequently become paranoid as their worst memories and nightmares haunt their waking hours. "

Unless the Templars made some kind of deal with the dwarves to get thier lyrium directly, I guess they'd be screwed. I can only suppose that withdrawl would be complete anguish - like trying to kick heroine.

[Dunquixote]

LolaLei wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

I don't think my fiance will ever understand the beauty to fan fiction and creativity. J/k--maybe. But then again, I don't think he'll ever understand why the obsession over a pixel created character. I still can't believe he hasn't found a female character he crushes on (not that I'd be happy about that --yes. I'm a hypocrite xD).

Not even Lara Croft? I thought all men went wild over her polygon ****** at some stage or another!

He might've said for a short time he was, but that was when he was 14 or so; he's now 25 or 26.

Modifié par Dunquixote, 18 avril 2012 - 09:10 .