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Love that idea, Danny. Sounds like a very cool trailer. Although... Hmm, honestly, I still have some misgivings about being the "Inquisitor" and running around Thedas putting people on the rack. I know whoever we are, we'll be badass, and I like the idea of even the inquisition symbol striking fear in someone. I guess it's still the historical overtones that they haven't explained yet.

But I've also been thinking... What if the new Inquisition is even more similar to the original, in that it's literally a non-Chantry based militia that rises up on its own to protect the people... In this case from both the mages and the Templars? DG described the original group as folks who rose up during dark times to say "enough is enough". What if the new group is more like that, a third player in the equation?


Oh, I rather like that! That way we start on our own side, and, through events, learn more and THEN might be able to decide what side is best, if any. Personally I hope there is the option for compromise this time, because despite Anders' opinion... compromises are needed when it comes to the Mage/Templar issues. Mages are dangerous, and that shouldn't be ignored. How the Chantry and Templars cage and abuse them shouldn't be ignored either.

Or hell, even having the option to damn the civil war completely and JUST look after the innocent people caught between.  

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Exactly, dirgegun, protecting the innocent from all the ravages of the war, caught in the cross fire. And then, we find out toward the end of the game that even the Inquisition has its rotten core, since IMO mob justice inevitably becomes as ugly as the danger it was trying to fight. Then you, the HERO have to find the best way between all these various interests. Could be cool!

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R2s Muse wrote...

Exactly, dirgegun, protecting the innocent from all the ravages of the war, caught in the cross fire. And then, we find out toward the end of the game that even the Inquisition has its rotten core, since IMO mob justice inevitably becomes as ugly as the danger it was trying to fight. Then you, the HERO have to find the best way between all these various interests. Could be cool!


I like this idea! I like it a lot. I would love for the Inquistor to start with thoughts of the innocent people, just because THAT is probably something neither the Templars or mages would be thinking about at the time, too caught up in what the war means.

Think of the arguments the PC could have with the mages, templars, and/or seekers that are so set on their own world and aren't thinking about the people caught in the middle. Not because their bad people, but because their focus is elsewhere.  

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Love that idea, Danny. Sounds like a very cool trailer. Although... Hmm, honestly, I still have some misgivings about being the "Inquisitor" and running around Thedas putting people on the rack. I know whoever we are, we'll be badass, and I like the idea of even the inquisition symbol striking fear in someone. I guess it's still the historical overtones that they haven't explained yet.

But I've also been thinking... What if the new Inquisition is even more similar to the original, in that it's literally a non-Chantry based militia that rises up on its own to protect the people... In this case from both the mages and the Templars? DG described the original group as folks who rose up during dark times to say "enough is enough". What if the new group is more like that, a third player in the equation?


I really like the idea of the Inquisition being the third wheel on the Mage and Templar's date so to speak. In a war where to great powers are fighting over a millenia old squabble with no care for who they hurt I think the people will rise up to put an end to things. I think most will be like Varric by the end, "I'm tired of mages AND templars!".

I also love the idea of it being a new order since in Awakening building up the defenses of Vigil's Keep was awesome. and I would love to have a little meta game where you sort of have to allocate rescorces to different outposts, cities and villages while dealing with the political struggles one has to as a spy/agent/rising power. 

I think that we might start off as a part of an organization (Chantry) if only to gain initial rescources and people but along the way we can turn it into anything we want, secret police, spies, soldiers of fortune, shadow government etc.

Also sorry it took so long to reply my comp crashed.

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Ooh, Danny, that's a cool idea, too... That you're also creating the org as you go... Like it starts as a non-profit coop, and as you're doing your thing you have to find funds and backers. Maybe the carat and other street gangs become your allies, along with civilian orbs like the city guard...? Possibilities.

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Dirgegun wrote...

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Exactly, dirgegun, protecting the innocent from all the ravages of the war, caught in the cross fire. And then, we find out toward the end of the game that even the Inquisition has its rotten core, since IMO mob justice inevitably becomes as ugly as the danger it was trying to fight. Then you, the HERO have to find the best way between all these various interests. Could be cool!


I like this idea! I like it a lot. I would love for the Inquistor to start with thoughts of the innocent people, just because THAT is probably something neither the Templars or mages would be thinking about at the time, too caught up in what the war means.

Think of the arguments the PC could have with the mages, templars, and/or seekers that are so set on their own world and aren't thinking about the people caught in the middle. Not because their bad people, but because their focus is elsewhere.  


I would love having the organization you build up eventually usurp you or maybe turn into the "bad guy". Not so much like Cerberus in ME2 where we knew they were bad guys, but more like they were good, did good work, but got tired of fixing peoples problems and decided to "eliminate" them entirely.

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About Cullen's sexuality, I'm of two minds about that. Yes, at his age, it would be very surprising to learn that he was a virgin... if he had not had the past that he had. Even if he was not raised by the Chantry the way Alistair was, he is a templar. They begin training somewhere around 15, if Keran is to be believed. It would also make sense, given that it is similar to historical knighthood, and that's about the time when boys were squired. Most boys are capable of having sex at that age, but contrary to what they would have you believe, most haven't done it yet. After that, there was a noticeable lack of opportunity. Cullen seems to have taken the templar injunction against fraternization very seriously. He would not have pursued a relationship with a mage or with a fellow templar, nor does he seem the type to nip over to the Spoiled Princess for a pint and a handful of bum. He strikes me as the kind of man whose friends would pool their money, lure him to Denerim with promises of some armor exhibition, and then lock him in a room with a prostitute. Assuming that his head didn't explode, he would probably return to his post with a deep suspicion about any future field trips. In Kirkwall, it didn't seem to me as if he would have many (or any) friends. Fellow templars with more chronological seniority would resent him. Fellow templars with less would be intimidated by his position. The chief of police's friends are often his immediate subordinates, but Cullen's immediate subordinate was Karras. I don't see them getting on, let alone cruising the city for babes. He does seem to have *some* social interaction with Thrask, at least in Act 3 when he tells Hawke that he defended Meredith when Thrask said she was mad, but their relationship seems to have been adversarial. Also, just about every templar in the Gallows knows more about Meredith's affairs than Cullen does. Maybe this is an illusion and he simply knows more than he says, but he doesn't seem to have the gift of deception. He seems to have taken "detachment" a little too far. That, and he seems genuinely lonely and kinda shy. He is outspoken enough when he is wearing his game face, defending his fellow templars, but when he becomes agitated and visibly uncomfortable when talking about personal experiences. I can understand him not wanting to talk about his past in Ferelden, but he seems to take it pretty far. His aloofness makes him seem unapproachable.

I'm all for the idea of encountering him in the midst of a crisis of faith, but I really hope they don't play the alcoholism card again. A person can be conflicted without crawling into a bottle. That said, I would rather encounter him as a bitter and resentful drunk than see another character like Oghren. Alcoholism isn't a joke, and habitual alcoholics aren't funny. It's a disease. It's like making fun of people suffering from cerebral palsy. I know, people do mock the disabled, but it makes me angry. I was on a rescue squad for ten years. The amount of shaming that goes on - even by rescue squad members who should know better - is disturbing. Yes, some illnesses are self-inflicted, but everyone makes mistakes. If insensitivity was carcinogenic, there would not be enough oncologists in the world to treat them.

</rant>

That said, maybe I wouldn't mind if they did make Cullen into a wandering drunk if they portrayed his condition sympathetically. It just seems as if the guy has enough addiction issues without adding one more.

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Danny - Oh man, that would be cool! Like you bust your ass all game to do the right thing, build up the Inquisition, and then you find, like, mass Templar graves and literal witch hunts of mages, as the Inquisition becomes a reign of terror again. There are definite suggestions in the seeker codex that the orig Inquisition was terrifying... Although it ostensibly started with a good mission. So, we could see history repeat itself... This has all happened before, and this will all happen again...

Yeah, have I watched too much BSG? Next thing I'll be expecting to visit an opera house in Val Royeaux. LOL

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Exactly, dirgegun, protecting the innocent from all the ravages of the war, caught in the cross fire. And then, we find out toward the end of the game that even the Inquisition has its rotten core, since IMO mob justice inevitably becomes as ugly as the danger it was trying to fight. Then you, the HERO have to find the best way between all these various interests. Could be cool!


I like this idea! I like it a lot. I would love for the Inquistor to start with thoughts of the innocent people, just because THAT is probably something neither the Templars or mages would be thinking about at the time, too caught up in what the war means.

Think of the arguments the PC could have with the mages, templars, and/or seekers that are so set on their own world and aren't thinking about the people caught in the middle. Not because their bad people, but because their focus is elsewhere.  


I would love having the organization you build up eventually usurp you or maybe turn into the "bad guy". Not so much like Cerberus in ME2 where we knew they were bad guys, but more like they were good, did good work, but got tired of fixing peoples problems and decided to "eliminate" them entirely.


I would be all for the organisation eventually betraying you, and it being a real betrayal in the sense you might not seei t coming if you miss the little hints.

...And lets tear open the veil ontop of that, because of all that magic use. :lol: 

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Still love the veil tearing idea, as yet another challenge for you to overcome. After all, where are all those soon to be dead demons gonna come from? LOL

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R2s Muse wrote...

Ooh, Danny, that's a cool idea, too... That you're also creating the org as you go... Like it starts as a non-profit coop, and as you're doing your thing you have to find funds and backers. Maybe the carat and other street gangs become your allies, along with civilian orbs like the city guard...? Possibilities.


I totally thought of something like that when I read the descriptions on Sera and the Iron Bull since the former seems to have a lot of connections to several thieves guilds and the latter has his mercenary company which I assume will supplement a good portion of the organizations forces.

I also think we might be able to recruit non-controllable npcs into the Inquisition in order to fight at certain times.

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Berelinde, yeah, generally agree that Cullen would still likely be rather isolated, which would limit his options for partnering, esp given his past issues. I've talked ad nauseum here about my various headcanons, so all I'll say is that I would just like for his sexual experience or lack thereof to be a nonissue. I would much rather they focus on his potential difficulty opening up emotionally, getting close to someone, caring about someone who could later be in danger and compromise his objectivity in his need to protect that individual. I think that would be much more rewarding of a char interaction.

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About Cullen's sexuality, I'm of two minds about that. Yes, at his age, it would be very surprising to learn that he was a virgin... if he had not had the past that he had. Even if he was not raised by the Chantry the way Alistair was, he is a templar. They begin training somewhere around 15, if Keran is to be believed. It would also make sense, given that it is similar to historical knighthood, and that's about the time when boys were squired. Most boys are capable of having sex at that age, but contrary to what they would have you believe, most haven't done it yet. After that, there was a noticeable lack of opportunity. Cullen seems to have taken the templar injunction against fraternization very seriously. He would not have pursued a relationship with a mage or with a fellow templar, nor does he seem the type to nip over to the Spoiled Princess for a pint and a handful of bum. He strikes me as the kind of man whose friends would pool their money, lure him to Denerim with promises of some armor exhibition, and then lock him in a room with a prostitute. Assuming that his head didn't explode, he would probably return to his post with a deep suspicion about any future field trips. In Kirkwall, it didn't seem to me as if he would have many (or any) friends. Fellow templars with more chronological seniority would resent him. Fellow templars with less would be intimidated by his position. The chief of police's friends are often his immediate subordinates, but Cullen's immediate subordinate was Karras. I don't see them getting on, let alone cruising the city for babes. He does seem to have *some* social interaction with Thrask, at least in Act 3 when he tells Hawke that he defended Meredith when Thrask said she was mad, but their relationship seems to have been adversarial. Also, just about every templar in the Gallows knows more about Meredith's affairs than Cullen does. Maybe this is an illusion and he simply knows more than he says, but he doesn't seem to have the gift of deception. He seems to have taken "detachment" a little too far. That, and he seems genuinely lonely and kinda shy. He is outspoken enough when he is wearing his game face, defending his fellow templars, but when he becomes agitated and visibly uncomfortable when talking about personal experiences. I can understand him not wanting to talk about his past in Ferelden, but he seems to take it pretty far. His aloofness makes him seem unapproachable.

I'm all for the idea of encountering him in the midst of a crisis of faith, but I really hope they don't play the alcoholism card again. A person can be conflicted without crawling into a bottle. That said, I would rather encounter him as a bitter and resentful drunk than see another character like Oghren. Alcoholism isn't a joke, and habitual alcoholics aren't funny. It's a disease. It's like making fun of people suffering from cerebral palsy. I know, people do mock the disabled, but it makes me angry. I was on a rescue squad for ten years. The amount of shaming that goes on - even by rescue squad members who should know better - is disturbing. Yes, some illnesses are self-inflicted, but everyone makes mistakes. If insensitivity was carcinogenic, there would not be enough oncologists in the world to treat them.

</rant>

That said, maybe I wouldn't mind if they did make Cullen into a wandering drunk if they portrayed his condition sympathetically. It just seems as if the guy has enough addiction issues without adding one more.


As long as he's not self-conscious about it, then I don't care whether he's a virgin or not. I just don't want them to write the Cullen romance like the Alistair romance (I don't think they would do that either, because that would be uninteresting for the writers). Cullen isn't Alistair, and I've already been through the cute, sweet, somewhat self-conscious about his virginity romance.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Ooh, Danny, that's a cool idea, too... That you're also creating the org as you go... Like it starts as a non-profit coop, and as you're doing your thing you have to find funds and backers. Maybe the carat and other street gangs become your allies, along with civilian orbs like the city guard...? Possibilities.


I totally thought of something like that when I read the descriptions on Sera and the Iron Bull since the former seems to have a lot of connections to several thieves guilds and the latter has his mercenary company which I assume will supplement a good portion of the organizations forces.

I also think we might be able to recruit non-controllable npcs into the Inquisition in order to fight at certain times

this could be cool. Sorta like how we could deploy troops during the battle of denerim. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

Berelinde, yeah, generally agree that Cullen would still likely be rather isolated, which would limit his options for partnering, esp given his past issues. I've talked ad nauseum here about my various headcanons, so all I'll say is that I would just like for his sexual experience or lack thereof to be a nonissue. I would much rather they focus on his potential difficulty opening up emotionally, getting close to someone, caring about someone who could later be in danger and compromise his objectivity in his need to protect that individual. I think that would be much more rewarding of a char interaction.

True, it would be more satisfying to deal with present issues rather than rehashing the past, but there needs to be some perspective. His emotional inhibitions have to come from somewhere. But I agree. It doesn't have to be sexual.

The point I was trying to make was that a guy could be emotionally mature enough to handle a romance, be sexually inexperienced, and not be a freak.

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Berelinde, agree, he doesn't have to be a freak for being inexperienced, nor does it have to be a character defining trait. Honestly his stuttering and hesitation around Amell/Surana and when mentioning prostitutes can easily also arise from general lack of comfort in certain types of social situations... For ex I think his stuttering about the lovely ladies at the Rose could also reflect the fact that he's a gentleman, and so isn't sure how to talk about such ladies of ill repute in polite company.

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About Cullen's sexuality, I'm of two minds about that. Yes, at his age, it would be very surprising to learn that he was a virgin... if he had not had the past that he had. Even if he was not raised by the Chantry the way Alistair was, he is a templar. They begin training somewhere around 15, if Keran is to be believed. It would also make sense, given that it is similar to historical knighthood, and that's about the time when boys were squired. Most boys are capable of having sex at that age, but contrary to what they would have you believe, most haven't done it yet. After that, there was a noticeable lack of opportunity. Cullen seems to have taken the templar injunction against fraternization very seriously. He would not have pursued a relationship with a mage or with a fellow templar, nor does he seem the type to nip over to the Spoiled Princess for a pint and a handful of bum. He strikes me as the kind of man whose friends would pool their money, lure him to Denerim with promises of some armor exhibition, and then lock him in a room with a prostitute. Assuming that his head didn't explode, he would probably return to his post with a deep suspicion about any future field trips. In Kirkwall, it didn't seem to me as if he would have many (or any) friends. Fellow templars with more chronological seniority would resent him. Fellow templars with less would be intimidated by his position. The chief of police's friends are often his immediate subordinates, but Cullen's immediate subordinate was Karras. I don't see them getting on, let alone cruising the city for babes. He does seem to have *some* social interaction with Thrask, at least in Act 3 when he tells Hawke that he defended Meredith when Thrask said she was mad, but their relationship seems to have been adversarial. Also, just about every templar in the Gallows knows more about Meredith's affairs than Cullen does. Maybe this is an illusion and he simply knows more than he says, but he doesn't seem to have the gift of deception. He seems to have taken "detachment" a little too far. That, and he seems genuinely lonely and kinda shy. He is outspoken enough when he is wearing his game face, defending his fellow templars, but when he becomes agitated and visibly uncomfortable when talking about personal experiences. I can understand him not wanting to talk about his past in Ferelden, but he seems to take it pretty far. His aloofness makes him seem unapproachable.

I'm all for the idea of encountering him in the midst of a crisis of faith, but I really hope they don't play the alcoholism card again. A person can be conflicted without crawling into a bottle. That said, I would rather encounter him as a bitter and resentful drunk than see another character like Oghren. Alcoholism isn't a joke, and habitual alcoholics aren't funny. It's a disease. It's like making fun of people suffering from cerebral palsy. I know, people do mock the disabled, but it makes me angry. I was on a rescue squad for ten years. The amount of shaming that goes on - even by rescue squad members who should know better - is disturbing. Yes, some illnesses are self-inflicted, but everyone makes mistakes. If insensitivity was carcinogenic, there would not be enough oncologists in the world to treat them.

</rant>

That said, maybe I wouldn't mind if they did make Cullen into a wandering drunk if they portrayed his condition sympathetically. It just seems as if the guy has enough addiction issues without adding one more.


Yeah I agree with you Berelinde, I think the drunken stereotype has been used a bit to much and while I loved Oghren it wasn't necessarily because he was a drunk, more so that he had a heart of gold beneath his lecherous outer layer. There are plenty of ways to show off pain and unhealthy ways to deal with it I just think they use it because it's the easiest to deal with than trying to introduce someone who's a drugee, but Cullen already has his addiction, his life has been flipped on it's hind quarters, he potentially has PTSD AND hehas the shyness, I think as a character he is close to being finished.

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Berelinde, agree, he doesn't have to be a freak for being inexperienced, nor does it have to be a character defining trait. Honestly his stuttering and hesitation around Amell/Surana and when mentioning prostitutes can easily also arise from general lack of comfort in certain types of social situations... For ex I think his stuttering about the lovely ladies at the Rose could also reflect the fact that he's a gentleman, and so isn't sure how to talk about such ladies of ill repute in polite company.


Ah, this! I agree with this, and I love Cullen being a gentleman.

I see him, at least a little bit, being like that one romance option for the female Sith Warrior. He gets flustered over her flirting not because he's a virgin, but because he doesn't know what the hell to do with it, because it's behaviour that isn't strict professonalism and goes against the protocols he's used to.

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Woohoo, Ikilled the thread.:pinched:

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Ooh, Danny, that's a cool idea, too... That you're also creating the org as you go... Like it starts as a non-profit coop, and as you're doing your thing you have to find funds and backers. Maybe the carat and other street gangs become your allies, along with civilian orbs like the city guard...? Possibilities.


I totally thought of something like that when I read the descriptions on Sera and the Iron Bull since the former seems to have a lot of connections to several thieves guilds and the latter has his mercenary company which I assume will supplement a good portion of the organizations forces.

I also think we might be able to recruit non-controllable npcs into the Inquisition in order to fight at certain times.


I say this with deepest affection and respect, but I really, REALLY hope that the only inquisition in the game is the one our protagonists are trying to defeat. I would not find it enjoyable in the least to play as an inquisitor.

Recently, my sister and I decided that we were going to do pro-templar playthroughs and romance Fenris. We spent many hours encouraging each other and repeating over and over "Side with the templars. Flirt with Fenris," but we were alternating those sentences with "I hate this. I hate myself for doing this. This sucks." In the end, I elected to spend an entire day - my first actual day off in a month - doing housework as opposed to playing Dragon Age 2 because scrubbing pots and folding laundry was more pleasurable than our current playthrough.

The moral of this story is that you can't force yourself to enjoy something that isn't enjoyable to you. I'm not spending $60+ on something less fun than washing dishes.

Fortunately, they have not said that we will be playing as inquisitors. They haven't said anything. Probably just as well. It allows me to enjoy the speculation about Cullen.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny - Oh man, that would be cool! Like you bust your ass all game to do the right thing, build up the Inquisition, and then you find, like, mass Templar graves and literal witch hunts of mages, as the Inquisition becomes a reign of terror again. There are definite suggestions in the seeker codex that the orig Inquisition was terrifying... Although it ostensibly started with a good mission. So, we could see history repeat itself... This has all happened before, and this will all happen again...

Yeah, have I watched too much BSG? Next thing I'll be expecting to visit an opera house in Val Royeaux. LOL


Exactly! And especially with gun's suggestion, I want the betrayal to really be unexpected and come from someone you NEVER thought would betray you, Leliana for instance. You think everything is going fine and then BOOM mutiny and you're stripped of all your bases, half of your men and maybe one of your companions die during an ambush.

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Dirgegun.agree, I see professionalism being a core issue for Cullen. His is after all defined by his duty, so I sorta picture him being the one who would prefer to polish his armor over going to the Templar Christmas party, you know? Poor dear...

Danny - also agree that the alcoholism/disability bent wouldn't be as interesting, to me.

Berelinde - no worries! Just speculating... Very curious to see where they take this whole Inquisition thing, and I'm still personally skeptical about us being the Inquisitor til we hear more.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny - Oh man, that would be cool! Like you bust your ass all game to do the right thing, build up the Inquisition, and then you find, like, mass Templar graves and literal witch hunts of mages, as the Inquisition becomes a reign of terror again. There are definite suggestions in the seeker codex that the orig Inquisition was terrifying... Although it ostensibly started with a good mission. So, we could see history repeat itself... This has all happened before, and this will all happen again...

Yeah, have I watched too much BSG? Next thing I'll be expecting to visit an opera house in Val Royeaux. LOL

Exactly! And especially with gun's suggestion, I want the betrayal to really be unexpected and come from someone you NEVER thought would betray you, Leliana for instance. You think everything is going fine and then BOOM mutiny and you're stripped of all your bases, half of your men and maybe one of your companions die during an ambush

love it, sorta like the fort drakon quest... Naked, alone, FRAK now what?! LOL

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berelinde wrote...

Woohoo, Ikilled the thread.:pinched:

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Ooh, Danny, that's a cool idea, too... That you're also creating the org as you go... Like it starts as a non-profit coop, and as you're doing your thing you have to find funds and backers. Maybe the carat and other street gangs become your allies, along with civilian orbs like the city guard...? Possibilities.


I totally thought of something like that when I read the descriptions on Sera and the Iron Bull since the former seems to have a lot of connections to several thieves guilds and the latter has his mercenary company which I assume will supplement a good portion of the organizations forces.

I also think we might be able to recruit non-controllable npcs into the Inquisition in order to fight at certain times.


I say this with deepest affection and respect, but I really, REALLY hope that the only inquisition in the game is the one our protagonists are trying to defeat. I would not find it enjoyable in the least to play as an inquisitor.

Recently, my sister and I decided that we were going to do pro-templar playthroughs and romance Fenris. We spent many hours encouraging each other and repeating over and over "Side with the templars. Flirt with Fenris," but we were alternating those sentences with "I hate this. I hate myself for doing this. This sucks." In the end, I elected to spend an entire day - my first actual day off in a month - doing housework as opposed to playing Dragon Age 2 because scrubbing pots and folding laundry was more pleasurable than our current playthrough.

The moral of this story is that you can't force yourself to enjoy something that isn't enjoyable to you. I'm not spending $60+ on something less fun than washing dishes.

Fortunately, they have not said that we will be playing as inquisitors. They haven't said anything. Probably just as well. It allows me to enjoy the speculation about Cullen.




I imagine the inquistor would work different to a Templar playthrough in DA2. I've tried to be pro-Templar, but DA2 didn't give me enough situations where the mages were dangerous without being pushed to it/the Templars were awesome and unfairly treated. I love individual Templars, but they almost seem like a minority in what DA has shown us so far. 

I would be all for the inquistor looking after the people who are caught in the middle of the war, rather than being faced with another instance of 'Templars evil, Mages good'. I think the Templars need fairer representation before I want to be made to choose between the two in something big like a war. In fact I don't really want to decide between the two sides at all, because both sides seem extreme at the moment when a middle ground would be the safest option for everyone. :unsure:

Obviously Howarts is the answer.

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Dirgegun wrote.
 In fact I don't really want to decide between the two sides at all, because both sides seem extreme at the moment when a middle ground would be the safest option for everyone. :unsure:

Obviously Howarts is the answer.


hogwarts is the answer... Shhh... Passit on! ;)

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Danny - Oh man, that would be cool! Like you bust your ass all game to do the right thing, build up the Inquisition, and then you find, like, mass Templar graves and literal witch hunts of mages, as the Inquisition becomes a reign of terror again. There are definite suggestions in the seeker codex that the orig Inquisition was terrifying... Although it ostensibly started with a good mission. So, we could see history repeat itself... This has all happened before, and this will all happen again...

Yeah, have I watched too much BSG? Next thing I'll be expecting to visit an opera house in Val Royeaux. LOL

Exactly! And especially with gun's suggestion, I want the betrayal to really be unexpected and come from someone you NEVER thought would betray you, Leliana for instance. You think everything is going fine and then BOOM mutiny and you're stripped of all your bases, half of your men and maybe one of your companions die during an ambush

love it, sorta like the fort drakon quest... Naked, alone, FRAK now what?! LOL


I would love another situation like that! Maybe being thrown into your own brig, if your base has one? Half-naked-until-you-get-your-gear-back-breakout shenanigans are just so fun! :lol:

Even more so if one of your loyal companions breaks you out while the other loyal companions organise the get away -- your LI if you have one could be the one to break you out, or the person with the highest approval if you dont have an LI.