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#201
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Loving this, Avilia!
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EDIT: Oh, look! Top, and Avilia already helped me cover it LOL. :D

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Avilia wrote...

 I can't see this situation ever being resolved

Staring contest

Cullen:  "I'm not looking away until she does"
Hawke:  "I'm not looking away until he does"

Eeek!! I super love it! Thank you, Avilia!

#203
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hehe ty :)

I had a thought while I was on the bus. Why does Cullen spend so much time standing about in the Gallows courtyard? My answer is sort of related to all the female templars:

Hawke: So, Knight-Captain, I notice you spend a lot of time out here. Shouldn't you be inside doing Templary things?
Cullen: In there? *looks back nervously* Ah, no, out here's fine. I can watch for. *thinks* Unruly mages and stuff.
Hawke: *disbelieving stare*
Cullen: *whispers* Its the females, they, stare, at me.
Hawke: Ah huh *snort*
Cullen: You try having hundreds of women all staring at you and following you around, see how you fare!
Carver: I should have that problem. *thinks he may have found himself a new job*

Oh - I slay myself.

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... I think I just wrote Cullen porn.

Sebastian would be so jealous!

Modifié par silentstephi, 31 août 2011 - 11:47 .


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silentstephi wrote...

... I think I just wrote Cullen porn.

Sebastian would be so jealous!

You should share it so that we can give our opinions on whether it is or not.

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silentstephi wrote...

... I think I just wrote Cullen porn.

Sebastian would be so jealous!


Is it taking place in the Chantry?! Posted Image

Seriously though, the only things Sebastian cares about in my playthroughs are Elthina, the Chantry, and a bit of Starkhaven because my Hawke constantly says so.

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Monica21 wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

... I think I just wrote Cullen porn.

Sebastian would be so jealous!

You should share it so that we can give our opinions on whether it is or not.


Yes, please do. I would be more than happy to inspect it for porn. Posted Image

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#208
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Sialater wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Just dropping in to say I REALLY hope Cullen finally gets to be a romance option in DA3. Seriously, he's been my favorite since the first time I played origins.

And could we perhaps have him with no demon babies or exploding churches or anything TOO sad and bad happening? I mean, I'm all down with tragic drama and all, but I've kind of had enough with the sad-warden/sad-hawke thing.

That would be great. K thanks. ;)


Your post to the Devs' eyes, Sage.  :wizard:


Maker's breath, I hope so.

um... i just typed maker's breath. :? too much da2! (blushes)

and Sia, it is lovely to see you as always. we keep ending up in the same forum threads! it's hilarious to me. clearly it shows what great taste we have in fictional men. ;)

on topic though, i love cullen. he's mentally strong enough to withstand what happened in the circle tower, yet he's managed not to be totally bigoted after that. plus he's a cute ginger. we seriously need to recruit this man for the PC and have a (mostly) happy love story. 

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sagequeen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Just dropping in to say I REALLY hope Cullen finally gets to be a romance option in DA3. Seriously, he's been my favorite since the first time I played origins.

And could we perhaps have him with no demon babies or exploding churches or anything TOO sad and bad happening? I mean, I'm all down with tragic drama and all, but I've kind of had enough with the sad-warden/sad-hawke thing.

That would be great. K thanks. ;)


Your post to the Devs' eyes, Sage.  :wizard:


Maker's breath, I hope so.

um... i just typed maker's breath. :? too much da2! (blushes)

and Sia, it is lovely to see you as always. we keep ending up in the same forum threads! it's hilarious to me. clearly it shows what great taste we have in fictional men. ;)

on topic though, i love cullen. he's mentally strong enough to withstand what happened in the circle tower, yet he's managed not to be totally bigoted after that. plus he's a cute ginger. we seriously need to recruit this man for the PC and have a (mostly) happy love story. 


You still don't love Garrus.  But no one's perfect. :kissing:

And about Cullen, I totally agree with you.

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lol. no. no i don't. i adore his personality, but call me shallow, i prefer my men to have lips. ;)

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sagequeen wrote...

[snipped]

Maker's breath, I hope so.

um... i just typed maker's breath. :? too much da2! (blushes)

[snipped]


Its not too much until you say it in general conversation to someone.  Who's never played DA. Posted Image

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silentstephi wrote...

... I think I just wrote Cullen porn.

Sebastian would be so jealous!

Is that a bad thing? That's pretty much the only flavor of Cullen I write. :D

For anyone going through Cullen Greg Ellis voice withdrawals, have some Disciple from KOTOR 2.

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No. I'm sorry. I can't. Not even Greg Ellis can save that character for me.

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Sialater wrote...

No. I'm sorry. I can't. Not even Greg Ellis can save that character for me.


:lol: 

That bad Sia?

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Yankee23 - Your... avatar.
*mesmerized*

Re: Cullen porn - It's not edited yet! But I'm filling a prompt on the kinkmeme, so far, both the non-porny scenes are done. I'm thinking Sebastian is jealous cause it's his Hawke I'm using... er... if that makes sense.

*waves the Garrus love flag* X3

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silentstephi wrote...

Yankee23 - Your... avatar.
*mesmerized*

Re: Cullen porn - It's not edited yet! But I'm filling a prompt on the kinkmeme, so far, both the non-porny scenes are done. I'm thinking Sebastian is jealous cause it's his Hawke I'm using... er... if that makes sense.

*waves the Garrus love flag* X3

Ohhh, what's the name?? If you don't mind sharing, that is. I still have one  Cullen prompt that is not quite finished, but I did just do a sexitiems update the other day. :wizard:

Sia, sorry. :( I haven't actually played that one. I started KOTOR the other day (Carth *swoon*), but it's kinda buggy and lags on my xbox, so I've started watching youtube stuff until I can stand to face the bugs again.

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sagequeen wrote...

on topic though, i love cullen. he's mentally strong enough to withstand what happened in the circle tower, yet he's managed not to be totally bigoted after that. plus he's a cute ginger. we seriously need to recruit this man for the PC and have a (mostly) happy love story. 


I actually don't know that it would be possible to have a mostly happy love story with Cullen. His defining quality is that nothing can come before his duty, and that he's perfectly willing to do things that bother him morally, intellectually, or emotionally in pursuit of that duty. It's actually a type I usually don't like, but he has that bashful, tired-eyed, walking-wounded quality that makes his balance seem so fragile, and his sacrifice seem so sad. You'd need a pretty big plot point that removed him from the templar system in order to allow him to take his focus off of his duty for long enough to have a proper relationship, and I'm not sure that something like that wouldn't really seriously mess him up on its own, by fundamentally altering his sense of identity.

I'm also torn about having him as an LI. I don't read a lot of Cullen, but all my favorite Cullen stories have him with one of the Mage!Warden characters, whether or not she's actually a Warden (One of the first Cullen stories I found was a story where most of the Warden PC characters existed, some as Wardens, some not. The main story was an Alistair one, but there was an Amell/Cullen backup). I'm sure I could be convinced, but they'd have to do something pretty spectacular to overcome the inherent interest of the Mage and Cullen interactions in Origins, with their separations after that, and Cullen's continued fondness for her, even in light of all he's been through. It could be done, but it'd have to be done very well.

(When I think "current non-LI who I want to come back as a relatively angst free LI," Varric is at the top of my list. Also Sigrun. There's something about those cheery dwarves.) 

#218
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 I was feeling silly (how unusual) and came across this on deviantArt

Link to deviantArt

Hilarity ensued and this is my final creation - Pony Cullen:

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CGG - I love your posts they're always so thoughtful and well reasoned. :)

Modifié par Avilia, 01 septembre 2011 - 12:57 .


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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

on topic though, i love cullen. he's mentally strong enough to withstand what happened in the circle tower, yet he's managed not to be totally bigoted after that. plus he's a cute ginger. we seriously need to recruit this man for the PC and have a (mostly) happy love story. 


I actually don't know that it would be possible to have a mostly happy love story with Cullen. His defining quality is that nothing can come before his duty, and that he's perfectly willing to do things that bother him morally, intellectually, or emotionally in pursuit of that duty. It's actually a type I usually don't like, but he has that bashful, tired-eyed, walking-wounded quality that makes his balance seem so fragile, and his sacrifice seem so sad. You'd need a pretty big plot point that removed him from the templar system in order to allow him to take his focus off of his duty for long enough to have a proper relationship, and I'm not sure that something like that wouldn't really seriously mess him up on its own, by fundamentally altering his sense of identity.

I totally agree with you that a perfectly happy storyline for Cullen is unlikely given his duty issues [besides the plain old writerly reasons that without drama/angst there is no romanced story]. But, I think that a potentially interesting future development might be the fundamental evolution of what that duty is. With the rebellion of the templars themselves following Act 3, and his own difficulties with "questioning the Order" and whether he serves Meredith or the Order, I think that the definition of what his duty should be is changing. Is it what he sees in his heart as what Andraste charged the Templars to do? Or is it the harsher, more dogmatic mission of Meredith's? Is it something different altogether handed down from the Chantry in this new time of war? Since that duty so utterly defines him, I could see him feeling the rug pulled out from underneath him and having to re-examine what *he* thinks instead of what the powers-that-be tell him to think. Potentially a nice, stable girl could, er, help him work through those issues...  hmm....:wub:  Any hoo, I guess that could be your proverbial "pretty big plot point." :wizard:

@Avilia -- That pony is just... OMFG, freaking hilarious! And, SO Cullen. Hmm... tempted to borrow as new avatar... <_<  You are just keeeeling me this week. Cullen as the Maker, come down to Thedas in the earthly form of a... pony!!

In other not so fun news, I think I'm being tested. I got power back for 5 lovely hours last night... But at least I got in that hot shower! :pinched:

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Hi all.
CGG...I have to agree with you about Cullen, and very well said. If you are familiar with G.R.R. Martin
s Song of Fire and Ice series, Cullen I find parallels Ser Barriston very well. Duty bound even when relieved of said duty. I think Cullen serves a code of honor that even if he were not a Templar he would still follow the code. Not quite Like Wesley going around saying "the order dictates," but still living by it's ideals.

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
I actually don't know that it would be possible to have a mostly happy love story with Cullen. His defining quality is that nothing can come before his duty, and that he's perfectly willing to do things that bother him morally, intellectually, or emotionally in pursuit of that duty. It's actually a type I usually don't like, but he has that bashful, tired-eyed, walking-wounded quality that makes his balance seem so fragile, and his sacrifice seem so sad. You'd need a pretty big plot point that removed him from the templar system in order to allow him to take his focus off of his duty for long enough to have a proper relationship, and I'm not sure that something like that wouldn't really seriously mess him up on its own, by fundamentally altering his sense of identity.

Getting Cullen away from a Circle would go a long ways toward achieving that balance. I really don't know what he was doing standing around in the Gallows for ten years anyway, but what do I know? I think his refusal to stand up to Meredith before he realized that Crazy Sword made her crazy was much more "The Plot Demands" than anything else, but he still expressed doubt before the RoA and doubts about her leadership as early as Act 2. It could also be that she's his commander and he's a subordinate and you do not disobey direct orders in the military. Even with all that though, I think he's come quite a ways since the Ferelden Circle.

I'm also torn about having him as an LI. I don't read a lot of Cullen, but all my favorite Cullen stories have him with one of the Mage!Warden characters, whether or not she's actually a Warden (One of the first Cullen stories I found was a story where most of the Warden PC characters existed, some as Wardens, some not. The main story was an Alistair one, but there was an Amell/Cullen backup). I'm sure I could be convinced, but they'd have to do something pretty spectacular to overcome the inherent interest of the Mage and Cullen interactions in Origins, with their separations after that, and Cullen's continued fondness for her, even in light of all he's been through. It could be done, but it'd have to be done very well.

Yeah, I'm not sure how well this would work out either. I think any player who romanced him would feel kind of odd since their Amells are still attached somewhat to Cullen. But, I've read enough fanfic (not even Cullen or DA related) to know that stranger things have happened. Though, I still have to wonder if Cullen as an LI can be truly satisfying without a mage PC.

Edited to add that Anders is quite literally going insane in DA2 and he's a love interest and you can run off with him if you choose. Not saying that's a happy ending, but I would hope a Cullen romance would have a lot less insanity and murdering.

Modifié par Monica21, 01 septembre 2011 - 02:58 .


#222
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R2s Muse wrote...
I totally agree with you that a perfectly happy storyline for Cullen is unlikely given his duty issues [besides the plain old writerly reasons that without drama/angst there is no romanced story]. But, I think that a potentially interesting future development might be the fundamental evolution of what that duty is. With the rebellion of the templars themselves following Act 3, and his own difficulties with "questioning the Order" and whether he serves Meredith or the Order, I think that the definition of what his duty should be is changing. Is it what he sees in his heart as what Andraste charged the Templars to do? Or is it the harsher, more dogmatic mission of Meredith's? Is it something different altogether handed down from the Chantry in this new time of war? Since that duty so utterly defines him, I could see him feeling the rug pulled out from underneath him and having to re-examine what *he* thinks instead of what the powers-that-be tell him to think. 

I approve of this post. :wizard:

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Ryzaki wrote...

Sialater wrote...

No. I'm sorry. I can't. Not even Greg Ellis can save that character for me.


:lol: 

That bad Sia?


You know the answer already, Ryz.  :lol:

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Sialater wrote...

No. I'm sorry. I can't. Not even Greg Ellis can save that character for me.


I think Avina has more personality than Disciple. :pinched:


I recently got a new computer and my husband updated his video card and gave me his old one, so I can play DAO on my PC. The first mod I downloaded was the Cullen Romance Mod, so him and my Amell can have smoochie times. :wizard: If he's not a companion/LI in DA3 I think I'll have a sad.

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So... Anna Hawke killed Anders. And Fenris' kiss didn't make me feel better. Cullen and Carver standing up for Hawke had better be worth it.