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#23101
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motomotogirl wrote...

I don't see how it could have anything to do with DA3 then, although the elf looks super cool... if that's the Iron Bull, he'd better clean up a bit before joining my party lol


It's where they got the vision from DA2 and was supposed to show a sequence of how scenarios in the game would go. I have no doubt that they are all place holders I was just wondering if these PH's could potentially now be companions? I mean that's so far back that Hawke was this weird long haired heavy metal guy and Flemeth was attacking a bridge which looked awesome.

Why you no like extra blood and gore? Yeah the elf girl looks cool and I loved how dialogue options could potentially change the scenario/fight based on who you have with you. One thing I loved in DA2 was how your companions had a bigger effect on conversations like how Carver or Bethany could calm down a group of Fereldens or how Varric could talk most people out of everything.

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motomotogirl wrote...

I don't see how it could have anything to do with DA3 then, although the elf looks super cool... if that's the Iron Bull, he'd better clean up a bit before joining my party lol

I suppose its conceivable that they're dusting off old ideas. :shrug:

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You've heard the phrase "let's put a pin in that idea"? Maybe Sera and the Iron Bull are getting un-pinned?

So, of the places we're visiting in DAIII, I think Cullen would be really interested in Rivain. It hasn't truly been reached by the Chant yet, nor has it been completely conquered by the Qun (though the influence is heavy there) and hedgewitches and people claiming to have magic to make a living abound on every corner.

Isabela also said that Llomerryn wasn't the kind of place where you could turn down a tumble. I'd love seeing Cullen under that kind of pressure. :D

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LolaLei wrote...

If Merrill had been bad ass like that, then she would have probably been my Hawke's canon love interest lol.


But then she'd just be Velanna wouldn't she? I mean Velanna (albeit a b!tch) is one of my favorite characters because of all of them she seems like the most on par with my character, like I felt like she would be able to put up a fight with my Warden. I mean there is just to much in common between the two except for the blood magic...and how they run.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

If Merrill had been bad ass like that, then she would have probably been my Hawke's canon love interest lol.


But then she'd just be Velanna wouldn't she? I mean Velanna (albeit a b!tch) is one of my favorite characters because of all of them she seems like the most on par with my character, like I felt like she would be able to put up a fight with my Warden. I mean there is just to much in common between the two except for the blood magic...and how they run.

Every notice that Velanna's Keeper abilities were cooler than Merrill's? Lame!

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Either way I think Cullen is going to be a bit irritating to anti-Chantry or just anti-preachy people but I think he also has the biggest room for change, he'll always be a templar I think, I mean when I think Templar I don't think of Alistair or Gregoir I think of Cullen arguably the worst Templar in Origins (attitude wise) but when DA2 came I saw him in a different light he was the sane one simply tortured by his experiences and forced to realize life (especially in a Bioware game) isn't black and white.

I'm not so sure about Cullen's lack of popularity with the anti-Chantry or anti-preachy people. I'm both and I like him just fine.

Give me half a second to get up on my soapbox.

A person can dislike the message that the Chantry has historically given - that the sins of mankind are directly caused by magic and those who are born with the ability to use it - and not dislike individuals within the organization. Some templars, DA:O's Ser Otto, for example, hold places very close to my heart.

Likewise, a person can dislike "preachy" people and still like deeply religious people. The difference here is harder to grasp. When people say "preachy," what they usually mean is that the individual broadcasts their religious beliefs as if it were the wisdom of ages, the One True Way, regardless of the beliefs their listener embraces. There is a perception of imposition involved, as well as the condemnation of others who "fail" to recognize the "wisdom" they impart. It's worse - a lot worse - when the speaker's moral position is untenable without outside assistance, e.g. the speaker demands that your character kill the heretics for them. Religious people with the courage and the ability to uphold their own convictions aren't nearly as irritating. Keldorn Firecam in BG2 is a good example of this. He's a deeply religious paladin of Torm, the god of Duty, and he is an outspoken and opinionated SOB, but he lives up to his own standards, and he will risk his own life in the defense of his beliefs. That said, he respects the faith of others. Unless your character commits heinously evil acts, you can even disagree with him without causing offense. He never claims to be perfect. If you play through to the very end, you find out that he is actually a Chosen of his god, but he doesn't go around acting entitled because of it.

I guess that's what I'm hoping for with Cullen: a man of conviction who bends but doesn't break. Someone with the ability to see the big picture and forgive petty failings. Ultimately, someone who will overlook trivial differences of opinion and save his righteous fury for those who really deserve it. And if he finds somebody who does really deserve it, someone who will hold nothing back in defense of his ideals. If he's like that, I don't care how many prayers he says before bed.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

If Merrill had been bad ass like that, then she would have probably been my Hawke's canon love interest lol.


But then she'd just be Velanna wouldn't she? I mean Velanna (albeit a b!tch) is one of my favorite characters because of all of them she seems like the most on par with my character, like I felt like she would be able to put up a fight with my Warden. I mean there is just to much in common between the two except for the blood magic...and how they run.

Every notice that Velanna's Keeper abilities were cooler than Merrill's? Lame!


She pulls trees...out of her ARSE!!!!! So much cooler than summoning demons. Anyway I just always thought it was weird that we got two dalish firsts and they were both "exiled" and ultimately failed in their quests and ruined what was left of their family instead. Not that I didn't like them, I mean their personality changes them enough that the stories are almost unnoticeable and they're both voiced by wonderful actresses.

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Is that Cullen? Fake?

browse.deviantart.com/designs/gameart/

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berelinde wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Either way I think Cullen is going to be a bit irritating to anti-Chantry or just anti-preachy people but I think he also has the biggest room for change, he'll always be a templar I think, I mean when I think Templar I don't think of Alistair or Gregoir I think of Cullen arguably the worst Templar in Origins (attitude wise) but when DA2 came I saw him in a different light he was the sane one simply tortured by his experiences and forced to realize life (especially in a Bioware game) isn't black and white.

I'm not so sure about Cullen's lack of popularity with the anti-Chantry or anti-preachy people. I'm both and I like him just fine.

Give me half a second to get up on my soapbox.

A person can dislike the message that the Chantry has historically given - that the sins of mankind are directly caused by magic and those who are born with the ability to use it - and not dislike individuals within the organization. Some templars, DA:O's Ser Otto, for example, hold places very close to my heart.

Likewise, a person can dislike "preachy" people and still like deeply religious people. The difference here is harder to grasp. When people say "preachy," what they usually mean is that the individual broadcasts their religious beliefs as if it were the wisdom of ages, the One True Way, regardless of the beliefs their listener embraces. There is a perception of imposition involved, as well as the condemnation of others who "fail" to recognize the "wisdom" they impart. It's worse - a lot worse - when the speaker's moral position is untenable without outside assistance, e.g. the speaker demands that your character kill the heretics for them. Religious people with the courage and the ability to uphold their own convictions aren't nearly as irritating. Keldorn Firecam in BG2 is a good example of this. He's a deeply religious paladin of Torm, the god of Duty, and he is an outspoken and opinionated SOB, but he lives up to his own standards, and he will risk his own life in the defense of his beliefs. That said, he respects the faith of others. Unless your character commits heinously evil acts, you can even disagree with him without causing offense. He never claims to be perfect. If you play through to the very end, you find out that he is actually a Chosen of his god, but he doesn't go around acting entitled because of it.

I guess that's what I'm hoping for with Cullen: a man of conviction who bends but doesn't break. Someone with the ability to see the big picture and forgive petty failings. Ultimately, someone who will overlook trivial differences of opinion and save his righteous fury for those who really deserve it. And if he finds somebody who does really deserve it, someone who will hold nothing back in defense of his ideals. If he's like that, I don't care how many prayers he says before bed.


Er let me be more specific as it seems I didn't explain what I meant very well. When I said anti-Chantry/anti-preachy I meant the forumite/poster or what have you who hates and despises a character simply for having ties to that particular organization or for being er like Sebastian where he sees the Chantry as infallible and often talks about it. I think Cullen will be somewhat like Sebastian in that he will always think mages need to be within a Circle due to his experiences in both Ferelden and with Anders during Act 3 and will voice those opinions. Sure I think he'll be spreading the righteous fury but like you I hope it will be against people who deserve it rather than against people simply for being mages or being of a different opinion.

Now when I said anti-Chantry I meant to be extra specific people who hate Andrastians simply for being Andrastians. I think it's stupid or rather ignorant to judge a person based on an organization they're a part of instead of simply judging the person individually. I mean a good/intelligent person should be judged by their merits, you can not agree with their choices or affiliations but that doesn't make them any less good.

*Looks down* Er should we get down now, it's kind of crowded up here =]

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Wtf it's gone... I swear I seen concept art for cullen

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I found one like it but it's watermarked... Fake? Real? Confirmation? Is that even Cullen?

trayfor101.deviantart.com/art/Templar-Concept-Art-Inquisition-Companion-Rough-332919585

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AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

I found one like it but it's watermarked... Fake? Real? Confirmation? Is that even Cullen?

trayfor101.deviantart.com/art/Templar-Concept-Art-Inquisition-Companion-Rough-332919585


Its Cullen and I am sure its fake. I think they cropped his head from some Cullen fan art I have seen before..
its a nice picture though, I like the armor.

Modifié par Shades_Of_Pale, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:25 .


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AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

Is that Cullen? Fake?

browse.deviantart.com/designs/gameart/


You mean this?
Image IPB

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Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

I found one like it but it's watermarked... Fake? Real? Confirmation? Is that even Cullen?

trayfor101.deviantart.com/art/Templar-Concept-Art-Inquisition-Companion-Rough-332919585


Its Cullen and I am sure its fake. I think they cropped his head from some Cullen fan art I have seen before..
its a nice picture though


Thought so. God damnit I want real concept art! :P

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It looks like a fan version/redesign of that leaked survey photo of Cullen?

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

Is that Cullen? Fake?

browse.deviantart.com/designs/gameart/


You mean this?
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No a diff one.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

Is that Cullen? Fake?

browse.deviantart.com/designs/gameart/


You mean this?
Image IPB

If this was the games cover I would squee so much, lol.

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This is it

Description ''Dragon Age 3 Templar Concept Art Inquisition Companion Rough Armour. Facial currently not designed.''


Image IPB

Modifié par AdmiralDavidAnderson, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:29 .


#23119
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I hope they'll throw us a bone at the panel. I had a dream they showed concept art and Cullen was there...then I woke up >.<

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Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

I hope they'll throw us a bone at the panel. I had a dream they showed concept art and Cullen was there...then I woke up >.<


If they even show the panel! I'm dying for a live stream :P

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AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

I hope they'll throw us a bone at the panel. I had a dream they showed concept art and Cullen was there...then I woke up >.<


If they even show the panel! I'm dying for a live stream :P


Now that would be awesome! Cameron Lee said he'd tweet if they said anything note-worthy about DA3, so here's to hoping.

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Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

I hope they'll throw us a bone at the panel. I had a dream they showed concept art and Cullen was there...then I woke up >.<


If they even show the panel! I'm dying for a live stream :P


Now that would be awesome! Cameron Lee said he'd tweet if they said anything note-worthy about DA3, so here's to hoping.


So cold with out detail logs to warm in these cold nights.

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AdmiralDavidAnderson wrote...

This is it

Description ''Dragon Age 3 Templar Concept Art Inquisition Companion Rough Armour. Facial currently not designed.''


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Do you know who that artist is? They just joined devart today with that one piece. Seems fishy that it's real. That being said... indeed, the armor is SWEET! Much more practical for a templar, to my mind. Like, he could actually sit down in it. LOL 

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Annnnddd! It shows shapely legs ^.^

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I'm waiting for someone to cosplay the fur!Cullen based on the survey pic. Just for Lola, cuz she's worth it. lol