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[Melca36]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

See, the reason I don't think DA3 will be all about the Mage/Templar war (ignoring the survey leak) is because if our protagonist decides to be full pro-Mage or pro-Templar then implementing that into DA4 could be tricky, since in theory, if you choose to aid all mages to freedom then we'd need to see the outcome of that choice, as would you also need to see the Mages well on their way to all being dead/locked up back in the circles in the next game if you're pro-Templar. Based on that concept then really DA3 would have to have "something bigger" in the works, in order to enforce some sort of compromise. Unless DA3 is to be the final game, which they've already confirmed isn't the case.

I dont think they will do the Templar/Mage thing in two Games. Marketing wise that does't seem logical.

I think there will be something bigger that forces them to work together. In the end a compromise will be made.

DA4 will revolve around something completely different

Could you elaborate, um on the marketing part? I'm interested in what you mean.

What I meant is they won't make two games about the same thing. It just won't happen. Marketing-wise its just a bad move. They have alot riding on DA3 and they are not going to make the same mistakes they made with DA2

I expect to see the Mage/Templar War finished by the end of DA3.

DA4 will focus on something entirely different which will be hinted in DA3.

Oh...well I just got told didn't I?

If my post sounded rude it was not my intention and I do apologize.


I just go by my instinct.  The average gamer is not going to purchase DA4 if it has the same subject matter as DA3.

Now of course most of of us would but we are only a small percentage of the gaming market.   

DA2 sold half of what Origins sold. They have alot riding on DA3.  DA2 was a good game but it was rushed and they simply won't be taking any risks this time around.

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Like if you look down Cullen's armor in DA2 there was just black where he's literally just a head separate from the body mesh.

...You ever think Cullen would sue us (you guys) for sexual harrasement?

Absolutely!

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Like if you look down Cullen's armor in DA2 there was just black where he's literally just a head separate from the body mesh.

...You ever think Cullen would sue us (you guys) for sexual harrasement?

If he were real, and we ever actually interacted with him... yes. <_<

[Shades_Of_Pale]

Well hopefully DA3 will remedy that!

[R2s Muse]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

The funny thing about that photo is that all of them look like their heads were cut off and sewn back on.

LOL they really do when you see all the varieties in skin color, don't they? LOL 

Still... love that Fergus in there, too. Daaamn. 

[Shades_Of_Pale]

R2s Muse wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

The funny thing about that photo is that all of them look like their heads were cut off and sewn back on.

LOL they really do when you see all the varieties in skin color, don't they? LOL 

Still... love that Fergus in there, too. Daaamn. 

I loved Fergus, wish he hadn't been my brother, lol!

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Good point, Danny. I think I've heard a lot of folks of the same mind: that we won't have race choice. Dunno what it's based on though. I'm cool with whatever they do... altho for myself, I don't necessarily need to be an elf or a dwarf again (I know, blasphemy!).

I'm now thinking about the original Inquisition and whether it might have had surface dwarfs or city elves as a part of it. I always picture it as a sort of militia turned witch hunt. So, if it's normal folks leaving their homes to pick up arms against the threat of dark mages, is it plausible that it also included non-humans?

More than plausible since at the time elves were still on the Chantry's good side and I've no doubt that the dwarves had some anti-mages though they in particular are a lot less believable. I don't doubt that in the early years of the official Chantry that elves were clerics and templars a like so if we only got elves and humans I could believe that.

Hmm, good point. I don't really know those timelines very well. I suppose you can't have had an Exalted March on the elves if you  barely have a Chantry yet, right? 

[R2s Muse]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

The funny thing about that photo is that all of them look like their heads were cut off and sewn back on.

LOL they really do when you see all the varieties in skin color, don't they? LOL 

Still... love that Fergus in there, too. Daaamn. 

I loved Fergus, wish he hadn't been my brother, lol!

Ahem.. yeah, kinda glad he wasn't really my brother...  Poor little widower... 

Modifié par R2s Muse, 18 octobre 2012 - 11:11 .

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

I'd also be surprised if they had a story arc like the mage-templar war span more than one game, since I would imagine they'd want each game to be more self contained than that. For ex, what if suddenly EA pulls the plug on DA4? D'oh!

I agree with everyone, tho, that it will have to be some bigger bad that somehow transcends the war and ultimately pushes everyone toward a more moderate resolution. But, I think it's also a good point that hearing the name DA: Inquisition, minus all other input, I would never in a million years imagined myself as part of the Inquisition, given all the associations. So, this is one of the reasons why I'm reserving judgment on that part of the leak. It could still be true that we're the Inquisitor, but then they've got ALOT more 'splaining to do.

1. Lucy!

2. I honestly think that regardless of whether we are the Inquisitor or not that by the end of the game people's worries will be assuaged. Even if we start as a part of the Chantry the way the game seems to be set up in a way that it would be realistic that the order...organization...group or whatever would be more player manipulated than anything else.

3. Whatever gets me Cassandra and Cullen...

4. Ricky...

[R2s Muse]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Well hopefully DA3 will remedy that!

LOL 

"Hello, I am Knight-Captain Cullen. I would like to join your quest... but first, there's the matter of a little paperwork I'd like for you and I to sign... acknowledging the sexual harassment policy, benefits, vacation days, that sort of thing...  Purely pro forma, I assure you."

[AdmiralDavidAnderson]

Fan Cover Art... If only!

Modifié par AdmiralDavidAnderson, 18 octobre 2012 - 11:05 .

[Shades_Of_Pale]

Woah, its like they heard my call about that being the cover....

[Danny Boy 7]

Melca36 wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

See, the reason I don't think DA3 will be all about the Mage/Templar war (ignoring the survey leak) is because if our protagonist decides to be full pro-Mage or pro-Templar then implementing that into DA4 could be tricky, since in theory, if you choose to aid all mages to freedom then we'd need to see the outcome of that choice, as would you also need to see the Mages well on their way to all being dead/locked up back in the circles in the next game if you're pro-Templar. Based on that concept then really DA3 would have to have "something bigger" in the works, in order to enforce some sort of compromise. Unless DA3 is to be the final game, which they've already confirmed isn't the case.

I dont think they will do the Templar/Mage thing in two Games. Marketing wise that does't seem logical.

I think there will be something bigger that forces them to work together. In the end a compromise will be made.

DA4 will revolve around something completely different

Could you elaborate, um on the marketing part? I'm interested in what you mean.

What I meant is they won't make two games about the same thing. It just won't happen. Marketing-wise its just a bad move. They have alot riding on DA3 and they are not going to make the same mistakes they made with DA2

I expect to see the Mage/Templar War finished by the end of DA3.

DA4 will focus on something entirely different which will be hinted in DA3.

Oh...well I just got told didn't I?

If my post sounded rude it was not my intention and I do apologize.


I just go by my instinct.  The average gamer is not going to purchase DA4 if it has the same subject matter as DA3.

Now of course most of of us would but we are only a small percentage of the gaming market.   

DA2 sold half of what Origins sold. They have alot riding on DA3.  DA2 was a good game but it was rushed and they simply won't be taking any risks this time around.

Oh no don't get me wrong I was just foolin and besides you did sort of destroy my argument (in a good way lol). I agree with what you say all I meant was that I felt the way the devs described the M/T War it was World War 3 rather than something that can be finished in a single game, dealt a serious blow for sure but not finished. I mean World War 2 ended in Germany on one year, but Japan another.

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

I'd also be surprised if they had a story arc like the mage-templar war span more than one game, since I would imagine they'd want each game to be more self contained than that. For ex, what if suddenly EA pulls the plug on DA4? D'oh!

I agree with everyone, tho, that it will have to be some bigger bad that somehow transcends the war and ultimately pushes everyone toward a more moderate resolution. But, I think it's also a good point that hearing the name DA: Inquisition, minus all other input, I would never in a million years imagined myself as part of the Inquisition, given all the associations. So, this is one of the reasons why I'm reserving judgment on that part of the leak. It could still be true that we're the Inquisitor, but then they've got ALOT more 'splaining to do.

1. Lucy!

2. I honestly think that regardless of whether we are the Inquisitor or not that by the end of the game people's worries will be assuaged. Even if we start as a part of the Chantry the way the game seems to be set up in a way that it would be realistic that the order...organization...group or whatever would be more player manipulated than anything else.

3. Whatever gets me Cassandra and Cullen...

4. Ricky...

 

"WAAAAAAH!!!"  (isn't that how I get my way by the end of most episodes...?  )

and... Agree!  If we're part of the Inquisition, it only makes sense that we would be able to somehow influence what it is/does. That's one part of the leak that rang true for me, that you can choose, or not, to draw some cache from the historical tradition of the name. 

OH... finally I remember now -- Lola's point about how it doesn't make sense for the whole game to be about choosing sides in the war. Totally agree! I don't think it's feasible for them to let the whole world order depend upon our player choice. That would be TOO big an influence of choices, IMO. So, inevitably, our influence has to be somewhat smaller, I would think. Like, no matter what, the war ends and both sides parley, and maybe you influence how they come to resolution based on the choices you've made, the allies you've accrued, or something like that. 

[LolaLei]

If it wasn't for the survey leak, my first thought regarding DA3's title is that the inquisition would have been what the newly rebelled Templar Order renamed themselves, went a bit loopy due to red lyrium or something and we'd have to put a stop to it lol.

[Melca36]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

The funny thing about that photo is that all of them look like their heads were cut off and sewn back on.

LOL they really do when you see all the varieties in skin color, don't they? LOL 

Still... love that Fergus in there, too. Daaamn. 

I loved Fergus, wish he hadn't been my brother, lol!

In my Canon, Fergus is kept alive and in a coma like state because of Flemeth and the Chasind she had watching over him.

The Couslands go all the way back to Flemeth's legend. In fact it was a Cousland who survived Flemeth's massacre and he inherited the Arling

There has to be a reason Fergus survives.  

[Shades_Of_Pale]

Maybe we should speculate and try not thinking of the leak? That could be fun, though difficult considering what the leak did have right..

[Shades_Of_Pale]

Edit: nevermind, Melca I confused myself on your post, I thought you were saying Fergus died...

Modifié par Shades_Of_Pale, 18 octobre 2012 - 11:17 .

[LolaLei]

R2: My theory is that "the big bad" forces Mages and Templars (along with everyone else) to join together to put a stop to the enemy. Then perhaps the outcome of that would earn the Mages a right to freedom but Templars would still be around to keep an eye on things or something.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

If it wasn't for the survey leak, my first thought regarding DA3's title is that the inquisition would have been what the newly rebelled Templar Order renamed themselves, went a bit loopy due to red lyrium or something and we'd have to put a stop to it lol.

This is what I would have thought, too. (minus the loopy red lyrium part... that's a good idea!)

But you know... maybe it makes more sense than I thought. If we're worried about which "side" we have to choose, and worried that pro-templar folks will be pissed that they'd have to fight against the new templars, what better way to avoid this than to make a third side. and, make that third side bad. Good templars go with Justinia, mages go with mages, *EEeeviiill* templars go with newly split Lambertian faction, newly dubbed the Inquisition.  Dunno, could work!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2: My theory is that "the big bad" forces Mages and Templars (along with everyone else) to join together to put a stop to the enemy. Then perhaps the outcome of that would earn the Mages a right to freedom but Templars would still be around to keep an eye on things or something.

I like that idea as well. Like the biggest interdimensional crossrip since the Tunguska blasts!

[R2s Muse]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Wait, doesn't Fergus live? I thought he was there at the very end of the game or something..? Am I crazy?

LOL I thought so, too... but am I thinking of the Alistair wedding mod, where he gives away the bride...? 

[LolaLei]

Yeah, that's what I thought would happen initially. An obvious foe. Of course that could still happen and serve as a distraction/red herring to the impending threat of... Hell knows what lol.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, that's what I thought would happen initially. An obvious foe. Of course that could still happen and serve as a distraction/red herring to the impending threat of... Hell knows what lol.

Terrifying space monkeys.

[Shades_Of_Pale]

R2s Muse wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Wait, doesn't Fergus live? I thought he was there at the very end of the game or something..? Am I crazy?

LOL I thought so, too... but am I thinking of the Alistair wedding mod, where he gives away the bride...? 

Never seen that mod.

Hmm, what is Fergus doing now that his wife and child are dead? Why hadn't I thought of this before? Fanfic coming up! Lol.