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Dunquixote wrote...

I think I made my infatuation with Cullen and my story into something too personal.  Have I no shame? :(


That's how most writers make good stories. NO SHAME is the best kind :devil:

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I know it says on the wiki that your living body won't die if you are killed (as a dreamer) in the Fade, but does any damage --like cuts, bruises, ripped robes--does that transfer over to the living's world?

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I see all these lovely banners and stamps you ladies have as a signature...where on earth do you get them?

Go to the first page of this thread. Gala included a bunch there.
EDIT: D'oh - ninja'd :ph34r: Gotta read all the pages I missed first... :)

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So, here's my proposal for Page 100. Pics are nice and all... but really, we've seen most already. I propose a prompt, so folks can write a quick drabble or make new images/art for it, whatever. Something that gets the creative juices flowing.

The suggestion box is open for a topic!!

EDIT: I couldn't think of one when I first posted this, but I just had one idea. The prompt could be "hair," as in something about Cullen's awesome hair, or a non-creepy take on the DG hair brushing comments, something like that.

An example: by Galagraphia
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Modifié par R2s Muse, 20 avril 2012 - 12:26 .


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R2, lol too funny. But yes that is a good idea!

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I concur R2; this is a lovely idea. And that image is funny. =D

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Incidentally, I was inspired by, I think it was, LolaLei's suggestion of questions we'd want to ask Cullen, like "Can I touch your hair?" LOL

Anyway, we can see if there are also better suggestions, but that one might be fun. And... I'm betting we hit page 100 by tomorrow at the latest.

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Sounds like fun. I'm in. I've also got a story idea bouncing around my nogin but I'm no writer. What to do...

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meanieweenie wrote...

Sounds like fun. I'm in. I've also got a story idea bouncing around my nogin but I'm no writer. What to do...

Awesome! Write it anyway!! It could be prose or even written script-like (e.g. Cullen: blah Varric: blah). I first succumbed to the writing bug due to a Cullen kiss prompt last year. It turned into a cute little drabble that was my first ff.net post (*gulp*).

Another idea I've seen on other threads is a series of topics one can choose from, in case one doesn't spark for someone.

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R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Sounds like fun. I'm in. I've also got a story idea bouncing around my nogin but I'm no writer. What to do...

Awesome! Write it anyway!! It could be prose or even written script-like (e.g. Cullen: blah Varric: blah). I first succumbed to the writing bug due to a Cullen kiss prompt last year. It turned into a cute little drabble that was my first ff.net post (*gulp*).

Another idea I've seen on other threads is a series of topics one can choose from, in case one doesn't spark for someone.


Oooo! I just recently read this.... loved it. Posted Image

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meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Sounds like fun. I'm in. I've also got a story idea bouncing around my nogin but I'm no writer. What to do...

Awesome! Write it anyway!! It could be prose or even written script-like (e.g. Cullen: blah Varric: blah). I first succumbed to the writing bug due to a Cullen kiss prompt last year. It turned into a cute little drabble that was my first ff.net post (*gulp*).

Another idea I've seen on other threads is a series of topics one can choose from, in case one doesn't spark for someone.


Oooo! I just recently read this.... loved it. Posted Image

Ah, thank you so much! It was so nerve wracking to actually put words out there into the public eye... but I had so much fun writing it at the time, I figured WTH. :P Now I gotta start brainstorming myself...

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I envy those who can write. I'm more of a talker. If I ever wanted to get a story out, I guess I'd have to find myself a ghost writer. LOL

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meanieweenie wrote...

I envy those who can write. I'm more of a talker. If I ever wanted to get a story out, I guess I'd have to find myself a ghost writer. LOL


I'm a talker too and my first few fics ever were Stargate fics and they were terribly perfunctory! LOL! I wrote like this: "Blah blah, bl-blah-blah-blah," so-and-so said. "Blah-dee-dee-blah... blah," such-and-such replied. It was just single lines of dialogue all down the page.

It was awful. So I began to imagine the dialogue as a conversation I was a fly on the wall for and adding descriptives as I went. I sometimes forget to add non-dialogue stuff that describes action and emotions and then I go overboard trying to make sure I don't forget them! haha! And I still struggle with writing inner monologues. It's a work in progress.

If it helps, find a prose style that'll make you more comfortable. Or a tense that feels natural. I write in past tense, usually. Present tense just doesn't flow right for me, but that's me.

So give it a try! You may surprise yourself. :D 

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SamaraDraven wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

I envy those who can write. I'm more of a talker. If I ever wanted to get a story out, I guess I'd have to find myself a ghost writer. LOL


I'm a talker too and my first few fics ever were Stargate fics and they were terribly perfunctory! LOL! I wrote like this: "Blah blah, bl-blah-blah-blah," so-and-so said. "Blah-dee-dee-blah... blah," such-and-such replied. It was just single lines of dialogue all down the page.

It was awful. I began to imagine the dialogue as a conversation I was a fly on the wall for and adding descriptives as I went. I sometimes forget to add non-dialogue stuff that describes action and emotions and then I go overboard trying to make sure I don't forget them! haha! And I still struggle with writing inner monologues. It's a work in progress.

If it helps, find a prose style that'll make you more comfortable. Or a tense that feels natural. I write in past tense, usually. Present tense just doesn't flow right for me, but that's me.

So give it a try! You may surprise yourself. :D 


Agree! But also, for a prompt like this, even just a dialogue string could be fun. Doesn't even have to be a full blown story. Then, it could always turn into one later... :)

@Samara -- I also have a hard time balancing that. I find I have little interest in writing long flowery descriptions, since I have little patience for them as a reader... but then as a result, I end up scrimping on them too much and have to go back later to better set the scene. I'm continually tempted, however, to go with fancy Shakespearean stage direction: "Exit, pursued by a bear."  For my current fic, I wish I could just write [they fight]. LOL

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R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

I envy those who can write. I'm more of a talker. If I ever wanted to get a story out, I guess I'd have to find myself a ghost writer. LOL


I'm a talker too and my first few fics ever were Stargate fics and they were terribly perfunctory! LOL! I wrote like this: "Blah blah, bl-blah-blah-blah," so-and-so said. "Blah-dee-dee-blah... blah," such-and-such replied. It was just single lines of dialogue all down the page.

It was awful. I began to imagine the dialogue as a conversation I was a fly on the wall for and adding descriptives as I went. I sometimes forget to add non-dialogue stuff that describes action and emotions and then I go overboard trying to make sure I don't forget them! haha! And I still struggle with writing inner monologues. It's a work in progress.

If it helps, find a prose style that'll make you more comfortable. Or a tense that feels natural. I write in past tense, usually. Present tense just doesn't flow right for me, but that's me.

So give it a try! You may surprise yourself. :D 


Agree! But also, for a prompt like this, even just a dialogue string could be fun. Doesn't even have to be a full blown story. Then, it could always turn into one later... :)

@Samara -- I also have a hard time balancing that. I find I have little interest in writing long flowery descriptions, since I have little patience for them as a reader... but then as a result, I end up scrimping on them too much and have to go back later to better set the scene. I'm continually tempted, however, to go with fancy Shakespearean stage direction: "Exit, pursued by a bear."  For my current fic, I wish I could just write [they fight]. LOL


"They fight" LOL! Ifeel that way too sometimes. I don't have a lot of patience for huge descriptions either. I've found that if actions are woven through the descriptions, I get less fidgety about reading through them. So characters taking a stroll, for instance, can hold my attention better than characters who are simply looking at stuff or each other. Sounds weird I know.

One caveat I have is expanding dialogue too much in order to move a scene from one point to another. I always think of something more for the characters to say! Then I have to edit it because I'm writing what I would say, not necessarily what they would say. Or it's just a character is too chatty when I know they're not the chatty type.

I also struggle with writing one scene and then doing another different scene with a minimum of exposition in between. Such as walking from Hawke estate to the Viscount's Keep, let's say. I wish I could just say "Hawke walked to the Viscount's office." but in my efforts to describe it just a little bit so it's not so... meh, I can overdo it on the dialogue whiie trying to add action descriptives so the characters conversation "comes alive". It becomes an unecessary scene and delays story progress. Then I cut it but save it in Notes because I thought the convo was gold. It just needs to happen differently. :lol:

No wonder I never get to the good scenes! LMAO! :o

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R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Sounds like fun. I'm in. I've also got a story idea bouncing around my nogin but I'm no writer. What to do...

Awesome! Write it anyway!! It could be prose or even written script-like (e.g. Cullen: blah Varric: blah). I first succumbed to the writing bug due to a Cullen kiss prompt last year. It turned into a cute little drabble that was my first ff.net post (*gulp*).

Another idea I've seen on other threads is a series of topics one can choose from, in case one doesn't spark for someone.


Sweet.  I'll have to read it once I finish reading Orchid's :]

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I'm game for that idea R2!

Sorry if I'm quiet over the next week, I'll be without an internet connection until it's sorted out at my new house. I'll try and get on the forum using my phone though. In the mean time I'll try and come up with some new bits and pieces for when we hit page 100 (providing I don't miss page 100 whilst I'm without the internet LOL.)

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SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

@Samara -- I also have a hard time balancing that. I find I have little interest in writing long flowery descriptions, since I have little patience for them as a reader... but then as a result, I end up scrimping on them too much and have to go back later to better set the scene. I'm continually tempted, however, to go with fancy Shakespearean stage direction: "Exit, pursued by a bear."  For my current fic, I wish I could just write [they fight]. LOL


"They fight" LOL! Ifeel that way too sometimes. I don't have a lot of patience for huge descriptions either. I've found that if actions are woven through the descriptions, I get less fidgety about reading through them. So characters taking a stroll, for instance, can hold my attention better than characters who are simply looking at stuff or each other. Sounds weird I know.

One caveat I have is expanding dialogue too much in order to move a scene from one point to another. I always think of something more for the characters to say! Then I have to edit it because I'm writing what I would say, not necessarily what they would say. Or it's just a character is too chatty when I know they're not the chatty type.

I also struggle with writing one scene and then doing another different scene with a minimum of exposition in between. Such as walking from Hawke estate to the Viscount's Keep, let's say. I wish I could just say "Hawke walked to the Viscount's office." but in my efforts to describe it just a little bit so it's not so... meh, I can overdo it on the dialogue whiie trying to add action descriptives so the characters conversation "comes alive". It becomes an unecessary scene and delays story progress. Then I cut it but save it in Notes because I thought the convo was gold. It just needs to happen differently. :lol:

No wonder I never get to the good scenes! LMAO! :o

Ah, I love hearing you say this! I struggle with the EXACT same stuff. I've also been working on how to jump forward. I tend to use actual physical breaks in the text when I do a major scene shift or change to someone else's perspective. But... say, they're in the tavern talking and then go to the Chantry. I don't want to write them walking there, since -- like you said -- there's no story there. But, it's not a big enough jump to warrant a physical break in the text. Soo... I've been struggling with words to connote the passage of time, instead of the walking. Like in the example above, in my current chapter, right now I have: "Soon after Cullen was hovering on the threshold of Gwaren’s small cathedral..." which is my stand in for [they walk to Chantry]. LOL I'm still not 100% pleased with it, tho.

FWIW, I've had a book on this recommended to me that I recently checked out of the library, but have yet to read. It's called "Scene and Structure: How to construct fiction with scene-by-scene flow, logic and readability" by Jack Bickham. IIRC, the recommender used the book in her creative writing MFA classes.

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I'm game for that idea R2!

Sorry if I'm quiet over the next week, I'll be without an internet connection until it's sorted out at my new house. I'll try and get on the forum using my phone though. In the mean time I'll try and come up with some new bits and pieces for when we hit page 100 (providing I don't miss page 100 whilst I'm without the internet LOL.)

Aaaah, no internet?? :(Best of luck with your transitions. We'll miss your great questions!

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I'm game for that idea R2!

Sorry if I'm quiet over the next week, I'll be without an internet connection until it's sorted out at my new house. I'll try and get on the forum using my phone though. In the mean time I'll try and come up with some new bits and pieces for when we hit page 100 (providing I don't miss page 100 whilst I'm without the internet LOL.)

Aaaah, no internet?? :(Best of luck with your transitions. We'll miss your great questions!


Aw thanks, I'll try and think up some more and post them on with my phone throughout the week.

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Ok ladies, I have another question to leave you with whilst I shift boxes!

If Cullen is just an NPC or cameo in DA3, would you like to see him find love? Like, perhaps he's a major NPC that you have dealing with throughout the game (like in DA2) and at some point you help him rescue someone and they show us a mini cinematic that makes it really obvious that he fancies her and visa versa (like what happens to Conrad Verner in ME3 when he's saved by some random woman.) Would you guys be happy with that outcome if he isn't a companion/NPC? Or would you prefer him to stay pining after our Warden, forever alone reminising about what might have been?

I personally would like to see him find love and be happy with a random NPC if we can't romance himself ourselves.

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LolaLei wrote...

Ok ladies, I have another question to leave you with whilst I shift boxes!

If Cullen is just an NPC or cameo in DA3, would you like to see him find love? Like, perhaps he's a major NPC that you have dealing with throughout the game (like in DA2) and at some point you help him rescue someone and they show us a mini cinematic that makes it really obvious that he fancies her and visa versa (like what happens to Conrad Verner in ME3 when he's saved by some random woman.) Would you guys be happy with that outcome if he isn't a companion/NPC? Or would you prefer him to stay pining after our Warden, forever alone reminising about what might have been?

I personally would like to see him find love and be happy with a random NPC if we can't romance himself ourselves.


Call me greedy, but if he can't love my main then no. HAHA! I would rather him keep his heart for my warden ;):devil:

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anyone else having issues with fanfiction.net?

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LolaLei wrote...

Ok ladies, I have another question to leave you with whilst I shift boxes!

If Cullen is just an NPC or cameo in DA3, would you like to see him find love? Like, perhaps he's a major NPC that you have dealing with throughout the game (like in DA2) and at some point you help him rescue someone and they show us a mini cinematic that makes it really obvious that he fancies her and visa versa (like what happens to Conrad Verner in ME3 when he's saved by some random woman.) Would you guys be happy with that outcome if he isn't a companion/NPC? Or would you prefer him to stay pining after our Warden, forever alone reminising about what might have been?

I personally would like to see him find love and be happy with a random NPC if we can't romance himself ourselves.

LOL good one. Well, for me, honestly the Amell storyline never really sparked for me when I originally played DA:O (I know - blasphemy! <ducks tomatoes> ;)), and I first fell for DA2!Cullen. I always feel like Amell was a first love that was part of his formative years, helping create who he is now, but not someone he's pining over.  So, I'm hoping he finds love wherever he can, although I sure hope it's with someone who's a player character.

You know... I think I'd honestly be surprised, if they hooked him up in DA3 with an NPC. I know I normally say the writers will go with story over fan-love, but it just seems like that would be cruel and unusual punishment for the fans. :crying:

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i can't sign in or check out stories...