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Did anyone finish the game with Leliana romanced AND "hardened"?


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kraidy1117

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Guys, who is too say that the sequal will have the same hero? Why do you think Bioware is focusing high on add-ons for this game, other DAO will likely take place in the other countries, also remember there is still alot of threats out there



-What happen to Morrigan

-there is still two archdemons left

-THe quirni will attack other countries soon



THere is many plots for sequals and that does not mean it will have the same character. Hell I would not be surprised if BIoware makes the sacerfice scene canon.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I never said The DAS wouldn't be around for a long time. You guys are simply assuming here, however likely things are. DAO is a standalone game at this time. They did not create it as a trilogy or a series. .


and youre not assuming? you have undisputable proof that there are no current plans for other games around DA?


Any future games will be created when they're created. As of right now, it is stand alone as a game and as a story


thats true of anything though. i will reply when i feel like i should reply right?

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I hope we get to play a Qunari next game.

Nothing beats a trash talking straight faced giant XD

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Mystranna Kelteel

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I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal out of this whole thing. All I said was that there is absolutely no need for Bioware to force a breakup between the PC and her lover for a sequel when the PC can flat-out die. Any "planned" continuation for the PC is completely useless if the PC is dead.



Let's leave it at that, shall we? I'm not in the mood to argue and nitpick over how likely a sequel is or whether or not anyone has indisputable proof either way.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal out of this whole thing. All I said was that there is absolutely no need for Bioware to force a breakup between the PC and her lover for a sequel when the PC can flat-out die. Any "planned" continuation for the PC is completely useless if the PC is dead.

Let's leave it at that, shall we? I'm not in the mood to argue and nitpick over how likely a sequel is or whether or not anyone has indisputable proof either way.


i was actualy aggreing with you, if Bioware decideds to make a second game they will likely make a new hero that will not take place in Ferelden, and most likly take on the one of the last two archdemons, however Ithink BIoware would focus on a new threat. Anyways as you said we will have to wait and see, but a newg ame using the same hero is just stupid. I want a new hero, new characters and too explore a country.

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I'm with Mystranna on the sequel thing. Sure Bioware will probably take further advantage of the IP, but as far as the story of this hero goes it's highly unlikely that it will have a direct sequel. Any future game in the DA universe will almost certainly feature new characters and different places. So in terms of this character and his story, I believe this is it.

Modifié par St Mael, 21 novembre 2009 - 11:50 .


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St Mael wrote...

I'm with Mystranna on the sequel thing. Sure Bioware will probably take further advantage of the IP, but as far as the story of this hero goes it's highly unlikely that it will have a direct sequel. Any future game in the DA universe will almost certainly feature new characters and different places. So in terms of this character and his story, I believe this is it.


Thats why Bioware is focusing heavy on add-ons I wager so we get more stories out our character.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal out of this whole thing. All I said was that there is absolutely no need for Bioware to force a breakup between the PC and her lover for a sequel when the PC can flat-out die. Any "planned" continuation for the PC is completely useless if the PC is dead.

Let's leave it at that, shall we? I'm not in the mood to argue and nitpick over how likely a sequel is or whether or not anyone has indisputable proof either way.


im not making a big deal out of anything... i guess i could jump around and start yelling...maybe i could become a doomsayer!

i dont know how they would continue the story on, all i know is i would like to see a continuation. but i agree about the "forced break up" i first read it as that until i had a couple other endings.

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Umm... maybe a nub question, but what's "hardened"?

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Umm... maybe a nub question, but what's "hardened"?


It refers to places in in Alistair and Leliana's personal quests there are dialogue options that affect their subsequent behavior.

If, after meeting Goldana, you tell Alistair that "Everyone is out for themselves, [he] needs to learn that," and subsequently stick by what you said, he takes it to heart and looks out for his own interests more; this chiefly affects issues related to his claim on the throne.

If, after fighting Marjoleine, you tell Leiliana she should accept herself as a fighter and sometimes killer, she takes it to heart and settles into her identity as a bard more, rather than thinking her ultimate destiny is in the chantry.  I might just be a smidge anti-clerical but my view was that this was definately a more coherent and sensible outlook in her case, whereas one might regret the necessity of making Alistair more "selfish."

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Ahh, thanks!

Modifié par Suilebhain, 06 décembre 2009 - 06:54 .


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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

The paragraph.

See, it doesn't say Leliana stayed with you for a time; it says whatever you chose to do with yourself only lasted for a time before you were called away. Nothing there implies she left me, I left her, or we left each other.


I got the one ( with my last 2 characters) saying Liliana and I stayed together to rebuild the Grey Wardens for a time, then we carried on to continue to investigate the still agressive darkspawn.  ( slightly paraphrased that is) which I took as we got the wardens going, and then once they were able to stand on theor own, or whatever, we took off to keep fighting " together"

that ending makes it sound as if Liliana not only stayed with her beloved warden, but in some ways became an official ( or unofficial) warden herself.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

It was designed as an expansive IP. They have no current plans for future games, not that I'm saying there won't be sequels.

What I am saying is that there is no reason to step on the toes of the player that much in the ending, considering how much free choice we have in every other part of the ending. If they were planning for a direct sequel by forcing you out of a relationship, then they would not have left all the other parts of the ending so very different.

Plus, your character can die... What's the point in forcing a breakup with the PC and her/his lover for a sequel if the PC can be DEAD in the sequel? It makes no sense.


Apparently, at the end of Mass Effect 2, the main character can die.  This is especially interesting since it was a planned trilogy and nobody knows what happens to your character in part 3 if you died.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the main character from DAO being involved in the sequel in some way...at least as an option.  Many newcomers to the Mass Effect Franchise will be starting from scratch with a brand new character, but then many who played the first game will be importing their end game save data as well.

I think being able to carry over something to a sequel is a very neat aspect of Bioware games.

Modifié par Knightsire, 06 décembre 2009 - 07:04 .


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If there is a sequal to the game, either expansion pack, DA:O2 etc etc i am hoping that the continuity of the original characters is kept. The choices you made with a particular character not only effect the current game but also reach out into the next game. I think it would also be awesome to be able to pick up where your character left off, and move on to a new set of adventures, or start a brand new character which has to complete the original DA:O before the player can do the expansion.



One can dream

Asai




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kraidy1117 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal out of this whole thing. All I said was that there is absolutely no need for Bioware to force a breakup between the PC and her lover for a sequel when the PC can flat-out die. Any "planned" continuation for the PC is completely useless if the PC is dead.

Let's leave it at that, shall we? I'm not in the mood to argue and nitpick over how likely a sequel is or whether or not anyone has indisputable proof either way.


i was actualy aggreing with you, if Bioware decideds to make a second game they will likely make a new hero that will not take place in Ferelden, and most likly take on the one of the last two archdemons, however Ithink BIoware would focus on a new threat. Anyways as you said we will have to wait and see, but a newg ame using the same hero is just stupid. I want a new hero, new characters and too explore a country.


I'm hoping that they will make a new DAO2 with new characters to get to know and such....but it would be pretty cool if you could hear followup stuff  about your previous hero.  From what I am hearing abougt ME2, there is a contuance if you played the original ME or ME2 can be a standalone game if you never played the orginal.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal out of this whole thing. All I said was that there is absolutely no need for Bioware to force a breakup between the PC and her lover for a sequel when the PC can flat-out die. Any "planned" continuation for the PC is completely useless if the PC is dead.

Let's leave it at that, shall we? I'm not in the mood to argue and nitpick over how likely a sequel is or whether or not anyone has indisputable proof either way.

just felt like replying to that.
there actually is a reason for Bioware to force a break up between Leliana and the PC, if they plan to use Leliana in future games but a different PC

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asaiasai wrote...

If there is a sequal to the game, either expansion pack, DA:O2 etc etc i am hoping that the continuity of the original characters is kept. The choices you made with a particular character not only effect the current game but also reach out into the next game. I think it would also be awesome to be able to pick up where your character left off, and move on to a new set of adventures, or start a brand new character which has to complete the original DA:O before the player can do the expansion.

One can dream
Asai


I agree, they could start the sequel in a similar way to the current game, with multiple "origins" to choose from depending on how this game ended. I don't think it's all that likely, but I would love love love it.

Regarding the "for a time" thing, Bioware's ended romances with NPCs in epilogues before, with no player control. Their writing has improved substantially in Dragon Age, but it's definitely something that would not be out of character for them. I think the line can be taken multiple ways, however, and the writing is flexible enough to allow the player to fill in the blanks to her or his own satisfaction.