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[Ultai]

It's not often a game will make me switch to walk and just stroll some streets, esp in Hengsha, so I'm taking my sweet ass time. I've started out on the hardest setting doing a stealth, non-lethal run. I love doing conversations without the social enhancer, even if I fail, probably because of I WIN charm/intimidate fatigue from mass effect

[Krusty84]

Kronner wrote...

It's pretty amazing game, only rivaled by The Witcher 2 this year IMHO. I do not like the boss battles though, they seem out of place and forced to me.

+1

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

I'm about 3/4 into the first mission. Trying to do a stealth run in fact but I totally failed at the Ghost and Non-lethal achievement.

[slimgrin]

Krusty84 wrote...

Kronner wrote...

It's pretty amazing game, only rivaled by The Witcher 2 this year IMHO. I do not like the boss battles though, they seem out of place and forced to me.

+1

Is it me or do so many games now botch the boss battles? 

Modifié par slimgrin, 28 août 2011 - 01:40 .

[Vilegrim]

slimgrin wrote...

Krusty84 wrote...

Kronner wrote...

It's pretty amazing game, only rivaled by The Witcher 2 this year IMHO. I do not like the boss battles though, they seem out of place and forced to me.

+1

Is it me or do so many games now botch the boss battles? 

yea, didn't like the Tyrants in this, didn't like the Reaper Baby in ME2.

Bioware needs to get there game face on tho, DA2 got owned by TW2, can ME3 beat DXHR?

[Nigawatts]

slimgrin wrote...

Krusty84 wrote...

Kronner wrote...

It's pretty amazing game, only rivaled by The Witcher 2 this year IMHO. I do not like the boss battles though, they seem out of place and forced to me.

+1

Is it me or do so many games now botch the boss battles? 

Well I understood what they were trying to do with their boss fights. They wanted to be sort of like Metal Gear Solid encounters where you have to adjust your tactics for the sake of the boss. Only problem is that certain abilities negate the bosses effectiveness and turns the encounter into a curbstomp for the player.

Another issues is the design of the boss "arenas", they are a little bit too similar, so each time you encounter the boss room you know what to expect.

Honestly they should not have had normal boss fights, they should have had the boss character present in the level, patrolling, and should you choose to you could either take them on, but alert all the guards in the area with the gunfight, or avoid them. Killing them would award a Praxis Kit and a special weapon.

[slimgrin]

I think too many games make boss fights conventional. They just don't get creative with them. I know Arkham Asylum f*cked up big time in this regard.

[Il Divo]

Bostur wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

Amazing game, Done a street samurai style run (lots of violence + hacking) trying a more stealthy run now, then it's time for a Gandhi 'no one dies today' run.

Also: Jennsen or Shepard, who is more badass?

Jensen doesn't feel badass to me, or maybe thats due to my peaceloving, caring interpretation ;-)

He does have some very bad ass close combat moves though.


Shepard feels more badass in dialogues.

Jensen looks/feels cooler, but Shepard has better lines.

[Il Divo]

In Exile wrote...

The game is really fun. I figured the deal with the biochip, but went for it anyway to see what happened. I had a laser rifle, so that actually trivialized the encounter (the way the consequence works out, it actually makes it easier to do certain things in-game).

Yeah, I pieced it out as well. What actually happens if you go to the Limb Clinic?

[Nigawatts]

Well first of all, it'll say "Do you want to upgrade: Yes or No." The fact that you are given a choice puts up a red flag immediately. If you do upgrade, you will have your augments turned off.

[termokanden]

I just got past the first boss battle. I love the depth of the game and the story and environments. The maps aren't completely linear either, and that's good. Unfortunately though, I have a bunch of complaints about the game as well. But to make it clear, I still actually like the game.

I am not particularly crazy about the AI. I have several times had people chase me down. But instead of trying to kill me, they'll just turn around and look into a wall.

The combat system is OK, but really only merely OK by today's standards. I'm not looking for something flashier, but of all the upgrades you can get, not too many actually deal with combat. So the combat part is actually pretty standard stuff. Oh and the first boss fight is horrible.

Last but not least, I love and hate the praxis system. It's certainly fun, but a lot of the abilities also seem useless to me, like they weren't completely thought through. The energy system where only the first cell regenerates also seems like an unnecessary limitation to me. If you want to know what I mean by useless, take a look at the stealth tree. Way too many points to spend on something you'll figure out for yourself as you play.

EDIT: Oh yes. The inventory system. How could I forget! I have the preorder stuff, so I ran out of space right away. That made me a bit cranky. I don't think you should have to spend praxis points on upgrading your capacity either. But I guess that's why I don't design games. I don't understand these things

Modifié par termokanden, 28 août 2011 - 03:22 .

[Krusty84]

termokanden wrote...
EDIT: Oh yes. The inventory system. How could I forget! I have the preorder stuff, so I ran out of space right away. That made me a bit cranky. I don't think you should have to spend praxis points on upgrading your capacity either. But I guess that's why I don't design games. I don't understand these things

Because this game is faithful to the original.

[termokanden]

Fair enough. I understand that some people like the inventory system limited for the realism. So I won't say it's a bad system, I would just prefer something else.

[Cutlass Jack]

Bostur wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

Also: Jennsen or Shepard, who is more badass?

Jensen doesn't feel badass to me, or maybe thats due to my peaceloving, caring interpretation ;-)

Punch through a wall and snap someone's neck. It'll change your opinion.

[slimgrin]

I think the UI in general is very well done. Credit goes to Nixxes for the PC port.

[Blitzkrieg0811]

Was I the only one who thought DX:HR looked exactly like The Matrix?

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Bostur wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

Also: Jennsen or Shepard, who is more badass?

Jensen doesn't feel badass to me, or maybe thats due to my peaceloving, caring interpretation ;-)

Punch through a wall and snap someone's neck. It'll change your opinion.

Speaking of which, how do I do that. I purchased that aug but I can't do it, do I need the eye augmentation too?

[termokanden]

Nope. If you have the Punch Through Walls aug, punchable walls will automatically be highlighted for you. All you have to do to punch through them is to press the "Use" key. There aren't that many punchable walls unfortunately, but there are often some nice equipment stashes hidden behind them. The first few I found were in the Detroit sewers.

Note that you can actually destroy punchable walls without the aug. You can just shoot them or blow them up instead. They are harder to notice without the aug though (they look like normal walls with small cracks in them), so unless you are very thorough you are almost certain to miss them. So I still think the aug is worth it.

Modifié par termokanden, 28 août 2011 - 04:25 .

[slimgrin]

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

Was I the only one who thought DX:HR looked exactly like The Matrix?

I'd say Blade Runner is the biggest influence, but the Matrix is there too.

[termokanden]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Punch through a wall and snap someone's neck. It'll change your opinion.

That's why I complained about the energy system. I can't actually do that without constantly munching on energy bars. Some of the takedowns look very cool, but when you just punch someone in the face or do a chokehold on them, I wonder why it costs Jensen energy to do something any combat-trained individual could easily do without augs.

By the way, now that we're talking about it, I also like the UI.

Modifié par termokanden, 28 août 2011 - 04:30 .

[Cutlass Jack]

The punch through walls aug pays for itself really. I found at least two praxis points in hidden areas that the aug marks for you.

On the energy system: I do find it lame you can't at least upgrade to recharge more than one. But if you're playing reasonably stealthy you can make the one bar you can recharge last you the entire game with minimal eating.

I think the reason they make the melee takedowns use energy is the same reason every non-lethal weapon only holds one round and has a longish recharge. The game would get too easy/fast if you could chain knockouts and make other styles less valid.

Based on how I played Alpha Protocol, I can see the point of it. I meleed my way through the entire game killing no one and barely getting injured.

[Cutlass Jack]

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

Was I the only one who thought DX:HR looked exactly like The Matrix?

I was getting more ME2 flashbacks in the intro.

• Game starting Mysterious smoking man looking at readouts
• Watching helplessly behind glass walls while innocents get shot by gun arms
• Sytlish cutscene of them rebuilding my body
• Etc.

[termokanden]

Yep the intro reminded me of ME2 as well. For the reasons listed above, but the lab also reminded me of ME2. That said, the game is hardly a ripoff of ME2.

By the way, I heard there were praxis points hidden behind walls, but I haven't found those yet. Still in Detroit though, so maybe I still have a chance of finding the ones I missed.

[Cutlass Jack]

termokanden wrote...

By the way, I heard there were praxis points hidden behind walls, but I haven't found those yet. Still in Detroit though, so maybe I still have a chance of finding the ones I missed.

*Spoiler crossed out below if you need a hint*

First one Praxis I found was in Detroit. In Sewer system. The hostile part of the Sewers, so you'll need to be sneaky (or violent) to get to it.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 28 août 2011 - 05:31 .

[Naltair]

Finished it last night on the Hardest difficulty, I did a primarily stealth/hacker but I killed when I had to or when I just got bored of stealthing. I found the controls to be decent the graphics were clean and evocative. I found the boss fights to be annoying especially the one with the augmented woman that charged and used typhoon.

Otherwise the game was very easy when you can hack everything. Though the part where you save Malik in the Helicopter was super awesome. I was so pumped doing that scene, takedowns and quick thinking... it was an action movie moment to be sure. I loved it. Overall a great game I can't compare to the Witcher, I have it but I didn't like it and barely got maybe 5 hours into the game.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a fun time.