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[marshalleck]

The game was not developed for PC. Like I said, it looks pretty average. It's no Witcher 2, that's for sure.

I'm not mounting some fanboy defense, I'm only saying the graphics aren't as bad as some people are making out. Plenty of other games have characters that look like wax sculptures; Mass Effect is a prime example. The graphics at least as far as the characters go is, for the most part, average and unremarkable. Although as mentioned earlier, the cyberrenaissance motif is awesome. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 29 août 2011 - 12:35 .

[Twitchmonkey]

I much preferred ME3's visuals, but in regard to DX3, a lot of the art direction on the environments is good. Everything is just pretty low-poly and the human models and animations need a lot of work. I'm enjoying them now, but they don't look modern, they look like a 2005 game with good art direction.

[Cutlass Jack]

Nigawatts wrote...

Also back to Letitia...anyone else offended by her? I'm black so in particular this seems like a giant step backwards to me.

If you were a homeless person in Detroit I could maybe understand being offended. Or if she were the only black person in the game. But that was far from the case. Without even leaving the streets of Detroit, Jenny Alexander was one of my favorite characters. I liked her much more than Megan Reed.

And its not like there weren't plenty of white people to be embarassed by. I was greatly offended by Frank Pitchard's representation of caucasians with ponytails.

[Chromie]

Idk I found it hilarious but I'm not black but I do have some relatives who are.

[Tommy6860]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Nigawatts wrote...

Also back to Letitia...anyone else offended by her? I'm black so in particular this seems like a giant step backwards to me.

If you were a homeless person in Detroit I could maybe understand being offended. Or if she were the only black person in the game. But that was far from the case. Without even leaving the streets of Detroit, Jenny Alexander was one of my favorite characters. I liked her much more than Megan Reed.

And its not like there weren't plenty of white people to be embarassed by. I was greatly offended by Frank Pitchard's representation of caucasians with ponytails.

This^ and Letitia's voice acting is atrocious (sounded more like a man to me). I personally think the VA in this game is among the worst I have ever experienced. Too bad really, becasue the rest of the game outside of the VA, general quality of graphics and the character's faces, is top notch.

[termokanden]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

And its not like there weren't plenty of white people to be embarassed by. I was greatly offended by Frank Pitchard's representation of caucasians with ponytails.

From the very moment I saw him, I was determined to find some type of redeeming quality. I'm less than half-way through the game, so I haven't given up yet. I'm sure it will happen.

Twitchmonkey wrote...

I much preferred ME3's visuals, but in regard to DX3, a lot of the art direction on the environments is good. Everything is just pretty low-poly and the human models and animations need a lot of work. I'm enjoying them now, but they don't look modern, they look like a 2005 game with good art direction.

Overall I still think the graphics are good. It's not cutting-edge stuff, but that doesn't matter.

Modifié par termokanden, 29 août 2011 - 02:50 .

[In Exile]

Il Divo wrote...
Yeah, I pieced it out as well. What actually happens if you go to the Limb Clinic?

The new chip is a killswitch. It disables your UI, screws with all your augs. In theory has to make the boss battle harder, but actually made it easier (it makes a crosshair appear which makes it easier to aim, and I play without a crosshair for the challenge). 

It's the predecessor for the original Deus Ex killswitches. 

[In Exile]

Naltair wrote...
Otherwise the game was very easy when you can hack everything. Though the part where you save Malik in the Helicopter was super awesome. I was so pumped doing that scene, takedowns and quick thinking... it was an action movie moment to be sure. I loved it. Overall a great game I can't compare to the Witcher, I have it but I didn't like it and barely got maybe 5 hours into the game.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a fun time.

The Saving Malik sequence is nuts on Give Me Deus Ex with a non-combat character. I had a fully upgraded typhon so that made it semi passable... but it was brutal. Took my 6 or so retries, though. Funny enough, killing a small army was *easier* than killing Barret. 

OdanUrr wrote...
In order not to deplete the entire cell you need to decloak or consume nutrients like mad, not to mention you can't do things like cloak and knock out a couple of guards at the same time or you'll lose cells.

Cloaking isn't the kind of stealh the game is based on. The idea is to actually sneak by guards instead of "I win!" buttoning it like Alpha Protocol. 

termokanden wrote...

As a console owner and a PC owner, I can only say that it's disappointing when console limitations hold back the graphics on the PC. Given those limitations though, the game does look good.

As a console and PC owner, I'm absolutely extatic that consoles hold back the PC, and can only hope the next gen of consoles does the same. It makes the PC a much more manageable investment as a platform for anyone who isn't very much into building PCs, which means I can use my favourite interface for most games. 

[Weiser_Cain]

Now the game wants to get even more buggy on me, I crashed twice on loading, though I've been crashing on close since launch.
This thing is starting to feel rails-y
Got taken to a factory, oh, there's our killers.
Jensen: I'm going in.
Me: YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!

I don't even havew my best stuff on my on account I was collecting junk to sell.

[Cutlass Jack]

Here's a hint: Every time the game asks you 'are you're sure you're ready to go there?' check to see if you're prepared. Assume whenever Malik takes you somewhere you can't get back til you're done.

Dunno about your crash bugs though. Haven't had a single crash so far. *knock on wood*

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

I much preferred ME3's visuals, but in regard to DX3, a lot of the art direction on the environments is good. Everything is just pretty low-poly and the human models and animations need a lot of work. I'm enjoying them now, but they don't look modern, they look like a 2005 game with good art direction.

Models, yes(except for Adam Jensen himself  and some of the other augmented who seem to have the best looking models in the game for some reason) but Animations, No. I mean the walking animations for the enemy NPCs looked fantastic(I'm pretty sure it was mo-capped).

[slimgrin]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Nigawatts wrote...

Also back to Letitia...anyone else offended by her? I'm black so in particular this seems like a giant step backwards to me.

If you were a homeless person in Detroit I could maybe understand being offended. Or if she were the only black person in the game. But that was far from the case. Without even leaving the streets of Detroit, Jenny Alexander was one of my favorite characters. I liked her much more than Megan Reed.

And its not like there weren't plenty of white people to be embarassed by. I was greatly offended by Frank Pitchard's representation of caucasians with ponytails.

I thought they went a little over the top with her DAAAAAYYUMMMM vo's.

[termokanden]

In Exile wrote...

As a console and PC owner, I'm absolutely extatic that consoles hold back the PC, and can only hope the next gen of consoles does the same. It makes the PC a much more manageable investment as a platform for anyone who isn't very much into building PCs, which means I can use my favourite interface for most games. 

I can understand that. I like building PCs though. I think there should be a compromise between a systembreaker like The Witcher 2 and xbox 360 graphics though. It's pretty cheap to upgrade from the 360, and having to upgrade every few years has always been the name of the game for the PC. I really think that's fair enough.

[slimgrin]

TW2 makes the compromise by looking better on low settings than most games do on normal. Plus if you tweak things it can run on an average system just fine.

[Chromie]

slimgrin wrote...

TW2 makes the compromise by looking better on low settings than most games do on normal. Plus if you tweak things it can run on an average system just fine.

Yup. I play at 1920x1200 on a single HD 5770 and Q6600. You don't need a monster system to play Witcher 2. Hell I get a better framerate then in DA2 at max settings minus Ubersampling.

[termokanden]

I have two computers. It does NOT run well on the older one. That one runs other newer games very well. I haven't had to tweak it that much though since I have a newer computer. I don't get how it runs better than DA2 though. It's the exact opposite on my old computer. DA2 runs just fine at high settings (if I do not use DX11).

But it only helps my argument. You should be able to gain something from having much newer hardware than what's in the 360. If you can in TW2, that's good.

Modifié par termokanden, 29 août 2011 - 07:26 .

[Bryy_Miller]

In Exile wrote...
The Saving Malik sequence is nuts on Give Me Deus Ex with a non-combat character. I had a fully upgraded typhon so that made it semi passable... but it was brutal. Took my 6 or so retries, though. Funny enough, killing a small army was *easier* than killing Barret. 

I found that all of the bosses were extremely easy if you do a completionist run. DX1 was notorious for having an imbalanced amount of EXP, and DX3 is no exception.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 29 août 2011 - 07:32 .

[In Exile]

termokanden wrote...
I can understand that. I like building PCs though. I think there should be a compromise between a systembreaker like The Witcher 2 and xbox 360 graphics though. It's pretty cheap to upgrade from the 360, and having to upgrade every few years has always been the name of the game for the PC. I really think that's fair enough.

It has nothing to do with fair. I don't have the time or the inclination to deal with the hassle that comes with had picking cheap PC components. Even if I don't build it myself, or track down someone reliable for a part-by-part build and order a custom performance PC online from a major seller or butique... I still have to invest a lot of time researching hardware to make sure I'm getting value. 

Whereas getting a console takes all of 15 minutes to drive to a story, if I don't choose to order it online. 

DX:HR runs pretty much max DX9 settings on an 2.13 Ghx intel duo/8800GTX at 1920x1280. TW2, even on low, lags like a ****. 

There are gains for new hardware for DX:HR - you get some DX11 effects, better AA, better textures (I think). These are all bonuses. It's not designed to run on the most top of the line PC hardware with the best possible effects... but that doesn't mean PC players don't get some payoffs. 

slimgrin wrote...

TW2 makes the compromise by looking better on low settings than most games do on normal. Plus if you tweak things it can run on an average system just fine.

An average system isn't a console equivalent, though, which was my point. 

Modifié par In Exile, 29 août 2011 - 07:39 .

[In Exile]

Ringo12 wrote...
Yup. I play at 1920x1200 on a single HD 5770 and Q6600. You don't need a monster system to play Witcher 2. Hell I get a better framerate then in DA2 at max settings minus Ubersampling.

Well, I can play DA2 at almost max settings (obvs sans DX11), and it runs better than TW2 on low. But that just has to do with the # of characters on screen. DA2 is way less taxing because of it. 

[termokanden]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I found that all of the bosses were extremely easy if you do a completionist run. DX1 was notorious for having an imbalanced amount of EXP, and DX3 is no exception.

Barrett is still frustrating though. In particular, he keeps throwing grenades that'll kill you in one hit. I managed to get close to him once, and I got locked down by his grab move (it might as well one-shot you if you can't get away). I think maybe he was spamming grenades a little extra because I was cloaking. In the end I found it easiest just to run to cover, headshot him a couple of times with my pistol, then run to another cover. None of my abilities seemed to help much.

There are gains for new hardware for DX:HR - you get some DX11 effects, better AA, better textures (I think). These are all bonuses. It's not designed to run on the most top of the line PC hardware with the best possible effects... but that doesn't mean PC players don't get some payoffs.

I didn't mean to go too far with this stuff in the DXHR thread anyway. Like I said earlier, I'm actually happy with the graphics.

Modifié par termokanden, 29 août 2011 - 07:43 .

[In Exile]

termokanden wrote...

Barrett is still frustrating though. In particular, he keeps throwing grenades that'll kill you in one hit. I managed to get close to him once, and I got locked down by his grab move (it might as well one-shot you if you can't get away). I think maybe he was spamming grenades a little extra because I was cloaking. In the end I found it easiest just to run to cover, headshot him a couple of times with my pistol, then run to another cover. None of my abilities seemed to help much.

If you have EMP grenades, you can finish him quickly becuase they stun him. I believe the stun gun also stuns him.

If you don't have any of these abilities, you can just aim blind from cover. That's how I killed him. Exhausted all of my ammo for the pistol & rifle, but totally worth it. 

[termokanden]

Yeah I regret not bringing anything like that to the fight. But in the end, my 10mm pistol alone did the trick. That has to be my favorite lethal gun so far, by the way. I'm upgrading it as far as I can and I'm hoping I will keep finding ammo for it.

[Bryy_Miller]

termokanden wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I found that all of the bosses were extremely easy if you do a completionist run. DX1 was notorious for having an imbalanced amount of EXP, and DX3 is no exception.

Barrett is still frustrating though. In particular, he keeps throwing grenades that'll kill you in one hit. I managed to get close to him once, and I got locked down by his grab move (it might as well one-shot you if you can't get away). I think maybe he was spamming grenades a little extra because I was cloaking. In the end I found it easiest just to run to cover, headshot him a couple of times with my pistol, then run to another cover. None of my abilities seemed to help much.

You have to run to the two armory rooms in the corners. He'll try to pin you down, but in the process, get hit by his own grenades.

[swn32]

DXHR is such a disappointment. As a fan of the original game, i felt so restricted. I can't believe how ridiculously consolized the game had become.

[Bryy_Miller]

swn32 wrote...

DXHR is such a disappointment. As a fan of the original game, i felt so restricted. I can't believe how ridiculously consolized the game had become.

How so? The level of exploration in each level was amazing, I thought.