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[dariussd]

I just found a pre-order for D&D Neverwinter Nights the Complete Collection on Gamestop's site. I can't find any other information anywhere for this title. http://www.gamestop....ollection/92959 . Maybe Atari is finally releasing all of the Premium modules on one disk including Wyvern Crown Of Cormyr, Infinite Dungeons and Pirates Of The Sword Coast. I hope so because I wasn't able to purchase these three before Bioware quit selling them. Maybe someone else here can find out what this package includes.

[dariussd]

There is also a pre-order for Dungeons & Dragon's classic Anthology by Atari. www.gamestop.com/pc/games/dungeons-dragons-classic-anthology/92953 . Atari must be releasing a bunch of old D&D titles.

Modifié par dariussd, 27 août 2011 - 03:09 .

[Androrc]

The installers are still available in Bioware's own site: http://social.biowar...index/4746466/1

And now the verification is simply allowing everyone to use the premium modules regardless of having actually bought them or not.

[dariussd]

I have the installers and I read that the authentication servers are down. Maybe that is the reason Atari is possibly trying to sell the Premium modules at retail. They probably figure they might as well try to get some money for them.

[NWN DM]

Maybe they should hold off while they spend 18 months developing a DRM 'solution' which they remove a few weeks after finally releasing the product.

Or has that already been tried as an avenue to success?

[TimG]

any new versions of the game for sale are a benefit by adding new players. It's likely though that this is just Diamond re-packaged

[olivier leroux]

Judging by the price of $29.99 I'd supect this is probably "Neverwinter Nights Ultimate", the package that includes both NWN and NWN2 with all expansions. I guess that's what they'd mean with "complete collection"; I doubt they'd consider the Premium modules part of it.

Modifié par olivier leroux, 27 août 2011 - 01:52 .

[UrkOfGreyhawk]

NWN DM wrote...

Maybe they should hold off while they spend 18 months developing a DRM 'solution' which they remove a few weeks after finally releasing the product.

Or has that already been tried as an avenue to success?

LMAO

Don't get me started. That MoW debacle is what got me banned from the previous boards. What a clown show that was.

Ugh. I'm still pissed about MoW. NWN2 had so much promise and Atari just pissed away the last year and a half of it's development cycle.

Modifié par UrkOfGreyhawk, 28 août 2011 - 12:50 .

[WebShaman]

^ Now I will agree with that!

NWN2 has soooo much potential under the hood, it ain't funny! It is a cryin' shame that enough resources were simply not made available to create it as the Devs at Obsidian wanted it to be.

Well, we as outside observers will never know how much landed on the cutting room floor. And that probably is a good thing.

I do know that the 'port function for NWN mods to NWN2 landed there...and who knows what else! Ridable horses got axed as well. Oh, and the console 'port. Which most likely was responsible for the (//&%&$%$ format that NWN2 was created in (and those darned tools! GRRRR!), instead of following NWN's example (linux and Mac support).

The MoW debacle was truly a farce! It ranks right up there with Duke Nukem' Forever I think...especially when one considers just what the DRM caused in sales and mayhem. A better example of falling on your own sword I have never witnessed!

It is the pinnacle of DRM folly and a shining example of what is wrong with DRM.

Sadly, NWN2 will never shine. The last patch will remain mothballed for all eternity. The rough diamond will never be polished.

It could have been so much more.

[_Guile]

Yeah this looks like a gimmick or something that didn't fall through for Bioware.

It could be that they need to hire some networking & security experts to fix the issues.
(Either way, everyone will wait till they get the Authentication Thing fixed, been 2 months now.)

[MrZork]

Maybe this could be a productive outlet for some of the energy put forth in the other threads. That is, maybe it would light a fire under someone's butt if there were a few prominent posts at that link - in polite and reasonable tones - noting that LAN and online play with that release is only possible after waiting for a master server connection that times out with an error that some features are unavailable because the master server isn't working.

What I am talking about are not angry diatribes (correct or not) about the evils of EA or Atari, but posts from a "wary consumer" standpoint to the effect that

I remember NWN as a fantastic game and spent many hours on online persistant worlds and playing the numerous free multiplayer modules in games with friends. But, googling around, I've read that NWN online play and LAN games are broken because the 'Master Server' or something has gone down. Before I put down any Pre-order money for a game that may not be working right anymore, can Atari assure us that we won't be getting 'Could not connect to Master Server' errors?

Since Atari is obviously hoping to make a few bucks off of this packaged re-release of the games, they may be motivated to see that problems that players already know about are dealt with before it affects sales.

[dariussd]

I found out more details. Apparently, it includes all of Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 except the premium modules of course. I guess I'm not surprised.  

www.oemstore.us/software_description:cheap_Neverwinter_Nights_Complete_Collection_soft.html

Modifié par dariussd, 22 octobre 2011 - 09:30 .

[dariussd]

Here are the details of the Dungeons & Dragons classic Anthology. Pretty good price if you don't have these old games.
 
tracking.fxnewww.linkedstorefront.com/store/show/191147/PC%20PRODUCTS

[aries1001]

In the first stickied top thread at this forum, Chris Priestly says that the activation both for the game and the expansions as well as the persistent worlds now work and function again. It is created about 27 days ago (from this day which is the 23rd of October 2011). He also says that Bioware and Atari are working together with others to make sure that the legacy forums will come back at one point - although he doesn't say when this will be.

It is too bad that the NWN1 game+expansions do not include the Premium Modules. Sadly, I don't think you can buy them at all. Luckily you can buy NWN Diamond Edition on GOG for US dollars 9.99...

[Skildron]

But as already stated earlier, you can still download all the premium modules and play them without any restrictions, wether you ever bought them or not. The module does some kind of check online and then starts. Before the outage of the master server, I could not play PotSC, now I can. When you try to start the module without any online connection, then it does not start up, so there is happening something.

[ColinWilson1980]

I'm curious, has NWN1 and the classic anthology been re-coded (if that's necessary, or possible) to work with larger resolution, widescreen monitors?

[MrZork]

NWN already works fine on WUXGA monitors at full resolution (1920x1200). I haven't seen it on a higher resolution system, but I would think it scales. I don't know of any actual commercial project to re-release the game with higher poly count meshes, higher resolution textures, etc. but I believe there are several community projects that have already done much of that work (NWN CQ, etc.).

[ColinWilson1980]

That's good to hear, I couldn't remember if it didn't. What about the classic anthology? I have BG2, IWD and IWD2 in boxes somewhere, but would probably buy them again if they will work with widescreen monitors. I believe they needed to have a hack applied.

[brikyle1208]

I had the the original NWN plus SOU and HOtu and NWN 2 and MOTB and SOZ, I have windows 7 so the original loaded very slowly but then I saw NWN complete I decided to but it, remove the old and replace with complete, loading is not the problem, after 10 to 15 minutes of playing the computer shuts down, I tried playing another game Torchlight same thing happens , but if I play zuma ot zuma's revenge I have no issues any advice would be appreciated thanks brian

dell xps 420, radeon 2400 pro hd dell motherboard 4gb ram

[HipMaestro]

brikyle1208 wrote...

I had the the original NWN plus SOU and HOtu and NWN 2 and MOTB and SOZ, I have windows 7 so the original loaded very slowly but then I saw NWN complete I decided to but it, remove the old and replace with complete, loading is not the problem, after 10 to 15 minutes of playing the computer shuts down, I tried playing another game Torchlight same thing happens , but if I play zuma ot zuma's revenge I have no issues any advice would be appreciated thanks brian

dell xps 420, radeon 2400 pro hd dell motherboard 4gb ram

I recommend you move this to the Tech forum and furnish full specs including driver version, sound card, etc.  If you are using Catalyst you may need to rollback or diddle with driver swapping of older versions that support OpenGL better.  But like I intimated... the General forum is not the designated place to discuss technical issues like this and you may find suitable solutions within those Tech topics anyway.  The game version has nothing to do with observed performance as long as you are sure you have located and installed the correct Critical Rebuild patch to bring your game up to v1.69.

[slab1028]

I bought the game in the store and sure wished I hadn't. It was a bugger to install. Kept having net 2.0 issues and when I finally did install it on my XP partition it only runs in 680 by 480 resolution. On my win7 partition in works at 16:9 but its buggy. I have the original NWN and they work perfectly on my XP. I thought I was getting a bargain by having them combined but it turned out to be pure loss. A very bad investment...

[nubbers666]

slab1028 wrote...

I bought the game in the store and sure wished I hadn't. It was a bugger to install. Kept having net 2.0 issues and when I finally did install it on my XP partition it only runs in 680 by 480 resolution. On my win7 partition in works at 16:9 but its buggy. I have the original NWN and they work perfectly on my XP. I thought I was getting a bargain by having them combined but it turned out to be pure loss. A very bad investment...

thank god for google 
was about to purchase the game myself till i read this  
thanx

[Rolo Kipp]

<waving his hands...>

Wait! Don't leave us yet! @_@

The GOG version had some quirks, granted (I'm pretty sure they're all fixed now), but other versions work fine.

I can personally recommend the D&D Complete version as installing and running well under Win 7.
Stick around a couple days and get some more feedback before you give up on one of the friendliest old game communities around :-) (please ignore the (one or two) little brush fires going on at the moment. They are not representative ;-)

<...in panic>

[henesua]

The problem with Google is that without the right questions it coughs up gibberish. Before you make your decision it would help to ask a few questions around here.

From what I can see: A good portion of the windows users are using more recent windows distros than XP and enjoying themselves.

[HipMaestro]

henesua wrote...
The problem with Google is that without the right questions it coughs up gibberish. Before you make your decision it would help to ask a few questions around here.

From what I can see: A good portion of the windows users are using more recent windows distros than XP and enjoying themselves.

Absolutely!

After reading literally hundreds of gamer issues throughout the years, both here on on the legacy boards, regarding the installation and performance of NWN 1, I would guess that about 1 out of about 20 or so posters using diverse OS and hardware configs have been stymied attempting to resolve their technical issues, with that proportion mainly in the last year or so.  Just a guess on my part.

The cited opinion above (per slab1028 from 8 months ago), a random rant rather than a consensus fact, is by an owner who has never posted hardware & system specs in the Self-help Technical Support forum so that a suitable resolution could be diagnosed, suggested and resolved by the community. Typically, most of these performance issues with the newer OS & hardware can be resolved by adjusting or juggling drivers or other simple tweaks.  Multiple OS boot partitions can be a challenge to control in and of themselves.

The fact is:  Hardware and OS manufacturers are not making any investments into maintaining support for integrating legacy games like NWN1 or NWN2 even though those games are still being made available to prospective gamers, so the community that runs them today must find a way to circumvent the hurdles.  Right here at BSN  (and at GoG.com to a certain extent) are the members who can help a new game owner enjoy all that NWN has to offer by revealing those remedies.