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[Adhin]

Oh that cooldown formula is simple and delicous, mmmmm.

[Sailears]

Eric ****nan wrote...

A 3 second cooldown ability with a 140% recharge speed bonus has a cooldown of 1.25 seconds. The speed of your recharge is increased by 140%. We changed the cooldown behavior from ME2 to allow us to stack as many recharge speed bonuses as we wanted (we have lots!).

Final cooldown = Base cooldown / (1 + Bonus)

Eric ****nan wrote...
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It applies to all
weapons and classes. And keep in mind that every weapon has it's own
weight value, so there are light pistols and heavy pistols, light
shotguns and heavy shotguns. Vanguards running around with a single
light shotgun are very popular builds.

Ah an equation! Thanks for clarifying that, nice and simple and helps a lot.

So not all pistols will be the same weight, or cause the same cooldown penalty? Is that distinct catagories of heavy/light, or rather a range of weights and cooldown penalties?

[ZenJestr]

not all weapons have the same weight.

For example, a Vindicator will most likely weigh less than a Revenant

a Scimitar will most likely weigh less than a Claymore

and a Predator will most likely weigh less than a Carnifex

It's most likely going to be a range of weights rather than guns being classified as "heavy" or "light" (since in one of the videos, we saw 3 different guns of the same type and they each had different weights)

[Sailears]

^Ah thanks.
I guess there won't be that much difference when it comes to pistols with the weight, apart from one or two extreme models.

[Last Vizard]

Eric ****nan wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Eric ****nan wrote...

Carrying only a pistol will increase power recharge speed by a lot more than 30%

Has something been changed to make only having one type of gun more of a handicap?
 
Because currently it seems like a super powerful option, yet I don't really see why it's a style of play you'd want to encourage.  It seems less interesting than if you're switching weapons according to the situation.

We want to give players the option to play more of a "caster" playstyle where they rely more on their powers. Taking only a pistol or any light weapon allows you to kill enemies pretty much exclusively with powers. This works better with certain builds/classes of course, but even the Soldier can be really effective using only 1 weapon and using Concussive Shot and Adrenaline Rush all the time.

... OH YEAH, this is a good day for Adept players.

[Adhin]

Yeah and the cooldown bonus/penalty is tied to your weight in relation to your max weight I think. Or at least its tied into that system so I doubt you can just say 'this weapon will increase cooldowns by x-amount'. Since it may depend on your max lvl vs that kinda thing.

Also the pistol that shoots sticky grenades, in that video, had a huge weight to it. Heh definitely avoid that on most my chars. I could see it being an interesting backup for a AR though.

[Bleachrude]

Wulfram wrote...

Being able to have more of a caster playstyle is great, it's just I'm not seeing a huge need to carry more than 1 or 2 weapons for any sort of playstyle.

For me, multiple weapons are in the fun but not necessary category anyway, but now that fun seems to come at a high cost in effectiveness.

In ME2, how many guns did you actually use in a single mission? You had pistols, AR, Shotgun  and Sniper Rifle for the soldier and even on insanity most people only used 2 guns anyway...

[Wulfram]

Bleachrude wrote...

In ME2, how many guns did you actually use in a single mission? You had pistols, AR, Shotgun  and Sniper Rifle for the soldier and even on insanity most people only used 2 guns anyway...

That was more or less my point.  Why slap major penalties on it if it's not particularly valuable anyway?

[luckyloser_62]

Eric ****nan wrote...

jmsylol wrote...

Anyone have any info on how Cryo Blast will work in ME3?

Completed multiple playthroughs in ME2 Insanity and it just felt useless using Cryo after stripping away enemy defenses (Armor/Shield/Barrier). I would end up just killing them off with my 'Tech Armor explosion + Shotgun' in the face combo or just using Throw after defenses for fun. And the fact that I had Throw already, being a requirement for Warp (and Cryo requiring points in Overload iirc).

Edit: Would it be OP if enemies with defenses up were able to be frozen/chilled?

Cryo Blast
Rank 2: Recharge reduced by x%
Rank 3: Duration increased by x%
Rank 4: [Duration increased by x%] -or- [Impact Radius of xm]
Rank 5: [Movement Speed of Resistant Targets reduced by x%] -or- [Power Dmg. to Frozen/Chilled targets incr. by x%]
Rank 6: [Recharge reduced by x%] -or- [Dmg. to Frozen/Chilled targets incr. by x% and weakens armor by x%]

Cryo Blast has some extra debuffs this time around, which makes it really effective even against larger enemies that have many resistances.

I'm glad to hear this, cryo was one of my favorite cc powers. Did biotic cc powers like pull and singularity get similiar buffs to have some effect on large protected enemies?

[incinerator950]

Wulfram wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

In ME2, how many guns did you actually use in a single mission? You had pistols, AR, Shotgun  and Sniper Rifle for the soldier and even on insanity most people only used 2 guns anyway...

That was more or less my point.  Why slap major penalties on it if it's not particularly valuable anyway?

Some of us use everything. 

[Adhin]

When I played a Soldier I used the 3 main ones based off the situation. Mainly AR, carried a Widow for some heavy single-shot kills and was using the Geth Plasma Shotty for a few situations.

I kind of feel though in general that I only ever really used 2 on any given char. And often times it was a switch up due to protections opposed to feeling the need situationaly (except the soldier). Though my Vanguard, I definitely used Mattock anytime I saw a husk horde coming. AoE Inferno rounds did wonders to strip there armor super-fast group-wide. Allowed my to intersperse low lvl shockwaves to auto-kill the unprotected, stun the protected. Which then got stripped and re-shockwaved.

Course, other then that - all shotgun, all the time. And with the changed in ME3 with how husk dudes work (with not stopping cause you blew off a limb or head..) and the switch ups to melee and all that I may just stick to a shotgun and pistol on my Vanguard. Hell may not even keep a pistol with me, hard to say.

but yeah, 2 weapons was my general use. Nice to have a backup.

[Adhin]

@luckyloser62 : yeah lot of them did. Pull, I believe you can add a DoT to it for 10 seconds if you hit something with it. Warp can do that or have 10 seconds of %dmg increase. Lotta little 'instant-cooldown' effects or reduces cooldown effects spread out based off combos and such.

I think one of my favorite changes I've read, and this depends heavily on how it actually functions as a base ability but - Shockwave. 6th point allows you to add a Lift effect to anything you hit. So instead of just dmg/force they float up as well.

[Drake-Shepard]

i like carrying a mini-nuke on my back. obviously in me2 i know when i will want to use it (thresher maw)...but on my first play though of me3 it's a peace of mind, I mean there are reapers and other random surprises.

Other guns I don't mind, one short distant gun and one long. done

[Ghost43]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Eric ****nan wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Eric ****nan wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I feel very tempted to do a caster/pistol only run with my Engineer.

It's amazing.

Quick question. Does this "One weapon = Faster Cooldown" apply to other guns as well? Say, if I want to only carry a shotgun as a Vanguard?

It applies to all weapons and classes. And keep in mind that every weapon has it's own weight value, so there are light pistols and heavy pistols, light shotguns and heavy shotguns. Vanguards running around with a single light shotgun are very popular builds.

One more question, will Vanguard's charge still have the same handicap it did in ME2? It was the only class exclussive power that didn't get the additional recharge bonus.

Also really curious about charges cooldown handicap.

[Adhin]

For my Vanguard I'm currently thinking the shoot-through mod on my Shotgun + AoE inferno ammo. Group of husks? Burn em! Kill it with fire! Lots, and lots of fire that rips through targets and lights up other targets - all doing AoE poofs of fiiire.

That's like.. carpet bombing napalm - with a SHOTGUN!

Modifié par Adhin, 07 février 2012 - 03:38 .

[TheWarofArt]

This is awesome news for my engineer, I only really used the Locust SMG and as just a finisher weapon in ME2 - and this is on insanity with both the traditional demolisher/overload/incinerate build and the mechanic/cryo/AI-hacking/dominate build.

I have a question though: can we deploy a drone and a defense drone out on the field at the same time? Because drone+defense drone+sentry turret = me buying another copy of ME for my drone.

[Arbalest7]

I wonder if this also applies to the squadmates. Maybe giving the Revenant or Widow to casters like Tali or Liara incurs penalties?

[luckyloser_62]

TheWarofArt wrote...

This is awesome news for my engineer, I only really used the Locust SMG and as just a finisher weapon in ME2 - and this is on insanity with both the traditional demolisher/overload/incinerate build and the mechanic/cryo/AI-hacking/dominate build.

I have a question though: can we deploy a drone and a defense drone out on the field at the same time? Because drone+defense drone+sentry turret = me buying another copy of ME for my drone.

Me too. I used drone as a distraction, cryo as cc, then incenerate to finish them off. I pretty much exclusively used the locust on that playthrough. I used my powers more than I did even with my adept.

[Adhin]

I'd imagine you can use the Defense Drone with Drone, and they've already stated you can deploy a Turret with a Drone as well. Turret is basically the 'out of cooldown' power for Engineer, usually grenade for others (Nova for Vanguard).

Defense Drone seems to be more of a close-range defensive thing then another distraction Drone. Which fits Tali really well since shes a shotgun girl . Having a zap-stunning drone kinda circle/follow you around to get things that get to close would be great.

Course no idea but I'd imagine since it doesn't fill the same role and its a separate power that the aboves right. I just hope Tali 'also' has Combat Drone. I don't want Chiktikka vas Paus to go away =(

[Elecbender]

Aw man....

Anyone else wish the last evolution of Charge had something where you could perform a heavy punch while charging?

Maybe there's a chance it can be glitched.....

[AVPen]

Adhin wrote...

Course no idea but I'd imagine since it doesn't fill the same role and its a separate power that the aboves right. I just hope Tali 'also' has Combat Drone. I don't want Chiktikka vas Paus to go away =(

It's been posted before, but Tali's powers loadout is:
- Combat Drone
- Sabotage
- Energy Drain
- Defense Drone

[Adhin]

I'm just happy with the % of recharge cooldown via a HM Kill to be honest... but yeah a Heavy Hit then into a charge and coming out of it with a super-charged punch would be pretty awesome.

Tali + Chiktikka

Modifié par Adhin, 07 février 2012 - 04:30 .

[Derahu]

AVPen wrote...

Adhin wrote...

Course no idea but I'd imagine since it doesn't fill the same role and its a separate power that the aboves right. I just hope Tali 'also' has Combat Drone. I don't want Chiktikka vas Paus to go away =(

It's been posted before, but Tali's powers loadout is:
- Combat Drone
- Sabotage
- Energy Drain
- Defense Drone

AVPen what do you make of this:
Energy Drain [Tali]
Rank 6: [Damage incr. by x%] -or- [Armor is added to Shield Restoration that reduces dmg. taken by x% for x sec]
for the armor added to shield restoration does the armor mean tali receives an additional layer of protection on top of her shields or does it mean that shield drain affects armor now? 
If it affects armor it will definetely breath new life into her usefulness compared to ME2 where she was a AI specialist and wasn't really much useful at anything else because combat drone did too little damage for the cooldown of her power.

[Omega-202]

Derahu wrote...

AVPen what do you make of this:
Energy Drain [Tali]
Rank 6: [Damage incr. by x%] -or- [Armor is added to Shield Restoration that reduces dmg. taken by x% for x sec]
for the armor added to shield restoration does the armor mean tali receives an additional layer of protection on top of her shields or does it mean that shield drain affects armor now? 
If it affects armor it will definetely breath new life into her usefulness compared to ME2 where she was a AI specialist and wasn't really much useful at anything else because combat drone did too little damage for the cooldown of her power.

If I were to venture a guess, it seems that Energy Drain will have the same defensive effect as Reave has now.  It will boost your damage resistance, decreasing all damage taken by a certain percentage, similar to the Hardened Shields upgrade in ME2 or the effect that armor and Immunity had in ME1 except for your shields and not health.

Also, Energy Drain ALWAYS effected armor.  It just did standard damage and not the bonus damage it did against shields.  On Insanity in ME2, fully upgraded ED (and Overload) did about 50% of an armor bar's worth of damage versus a standard minion class enemy.  It was the same amount of damage that Reave and Warp did to shields.  

I don't know where you got the "does damage to armor" from the description given.