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[blitzkkrieg]

I'm thinking the infiltrator will be more of a slash, judging by the two prong-like things coming off the omni-tool

[Someone With Mass]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i dont see anything about electricity being in overload on the wiki, and the infiltrator doesnt have overload either. i think an electrical melee would be awesome anyways tho.

You're overloading electrical systems with, what else, electricity.

That's how most overloads work.

[mcsupersport]

You know for a Sentinel I would have liked to see a lift then strike, ie biotic lift that holds the enemy about 2-3 feet off the ground and then a blade/tech strike to the midsection of the enemy. This would be truly unique and a blend of tech and biotics which makes up the Sentinel.

[el master pr]

A heavy melee won't change the fact that the Soldier is fav class. It might, however, coerce me into trying out all the classes. Already tried Vanguard, and I had to adjust my play-style so much that I ended up stopping after Horizon to pick up DA:O.

[Biotic Sage]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

Is anyone worried that the electric-looking melee that's probably going to belong to the Infiltrator might end up too similar in animation to the Engineer's? Sure looks like an electric backhand is about to occur in that one pic. I doubt they'd recycle like that though. I hope...

Also, anyone else have a strong feeling the heavy melee animations might play a role in deciding their favorite class?

It does look like the same motion is going to occur for the infiltrator's attack.  I'm not sure how I feel about the Engineer's backhand to begin with; it all depends on how it feels in-game, which I won't know until March 6.  I do think that the Infiltrator's and Vanguard's heavy melee attacks are extremely important, probably moreso than any other class.  With Tactical Cloak and Charge, you have the ability to get up close to enemies without the risk of taking damage.


So far, my favorite heavy melee attack that we've seen has been the Adept's biotic palm strike, and since that was already my favorite class my choice isn't too difficult

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 05 septembre 2011 - 06:33 .

[olymind1]

I think infiltrator should have a partially invisible/cloaked omni-blade attack, and the sentinel already has the Tech armor as a power (and the heavy melee attacks are power/skill releated), and should have a biotic attack, same goes to the vanguard. This way there would be balance among classes' heavy melee attacks: 3 omni-blade attacks, and 3 biotic attacks.

and what about these attacks:




?

Modifié par olymind1, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:21 .

[Biotic Sage]

olymind1 wrote...

I think infiltrator should have a partially invisible/cloaked omni-blade attack, and the sentinel already has the Tech armor as a power (and the heavy melee attacks are power/skill releated), and should have a biotic attack, same goes to the vanguard. This way there would be balance among classes' heavy melee attacks: 3 omni-blade attacks, and 3 biotic attacks.

and what about these attacks:

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?

Those are from leaked beta footage of the game before they settled on the final versions of each class's heavy melee attack.  I guess they decided to not go the double omni-fist direction (a good decision in my opinion).

[olymind1]

hmm, so the infiltrator won't have dual omni-blades? that would be a relief

Modifié par olymind1, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:25 .

[Biotic Sage]

olymind1 wrote...

hmm, so the infiltrator won't have dual omni-blades? that would be a relief

Ehhh...the sentinel will still have dual omni-blades, just not omni-fists haha.  I know, not much better.

Infiltrator will have this:

[olymind1]

Biotic Sage wrote...

olymind1 wrote...

hmm, so the infiltrator won't have dual omni-blades? that would be a relief

Ehhh...the sentinel will still have dual omni-blades, just not omni-fists haha.  I know, not much better.

Infiltrator will have this:

not bad

but for sentinel would be great to make omni-blade at least partially biotic, or pure biotic.

or with one hand hold the enemy with biotic, and with the second hand kill with omni blade, but not 2 omni-blades, it makes that class too solider-, engineer-like...

in my opinion

[Biotic Sage]

olymind1 wrote...

not bad

but for sentinel would be great to make omni-blade at least partially biotic, or pure biotic.

or with one hand hold the enemy with biotic, and with the second hand kill with omni blade, but not 2 omni-blades, it makes that class too solider-, engineer-like...

in my opinion

You're preaching to the choir here.  If you look back through this thread you'll see that pretty much everybody echoes your sentiment.  In fact, I have yet to find a person on the whole BSN who disagrees with this.

[olymind1]

hmm, then we are the "biotic heavy melee for sentinel" congregation.

[Stardusk78]

I am disappointed that you must choose between upgrading Renegade/Paragon OR developing powers.

[olymind1]

Stardusk78 wrote...

I am disappointed that you must choose between upgrading Renegade/Paragon OR developing powers.

if you select the Renegade/Paragon upgrade, then you get increased power duration too. according to the e3 vid. i don't know how outdated that is.

[The Spamming Troll]

Biotic Sage wrote...

@ Spamming Troll

Your argument against Overload being electrical in nature isn't going to convince anybody. Not sure why we want to have that tedious discussion anyway, sometimes it seems like people just get caught up in the quicksand of trying to prove each other wrong and forget what they were even talking about in the first place.

And besides, if you really wanted to make a legitimate argument against the electrical infiltrator heavy melee attack (which once again, I don't know why you would), you could have said: "The Infiltrator doesn't even have Overload as one of his powers." But then someone will obviously just counter by saying that Disruptor Ammo is electrical in nature, and we're right back into it.

Tedium takes on a new meaning on the BSN.

The Spamming Troll wrote...

but do you know if overload is
an electronic attack tho? then were just kindof making things up, if
were not considering lore, or game facts or whatever. biotics look like
force powers if your using common sense, but that doesnt make it so. i would assume every tech power uses some kind of electrical current tho.

The Spamming Troll wrote...
i dont see anything about electricity being in overload on the wiki, and the infiltrator doesnt have overload either. i think an electrical melee would be awesome anyways tho.

a.k.a. im in agreement with you. im not trying to convince anyone of anyting. im asking, not argueing. (do i need to put smiley faces in all my posts so you guys know im not trying to be obnoxious???) im just lookking for an answer, that nobody can provide. you guys are just saying "tech is electrical, because a toaster uses electricity", and that makes sense to you. isnt there more things available in the MEuniverse then just using electricity to make things work?

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 05 septembre 2011 - 03:52 .

[littlezack]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

@ Spamming Troll

Your argument against Overload being electrical in nature isn't going to convince anybody. Not sure why we want to have that tedious discussion anyway, sometimes it seems like people just get caught up in the quicksand of trying to prove each other wrong and forget what they were even talking about in the first place.

And besides, if you really wanted to make a legitimate argument against the electrical infiltrator heavy melee attack (which once again, I don't know why you would), you could have said: "The Infiltrator doesn't even have Overload as one of his powers." But then someone will obviously just counter by saying that Disruptor Ammo is electrical in nature, and we're right back into it.

Tedium takes on a new meaning on the BSN.

The Spamming Troll wrote...

but do you know if overload is
an electronic attack tho? then were just kindof making things up, if
were not considering lore, or game facts or whatever. biotics look like
force powers if your using common sense, but that doesnt make it so. i would assume every tech power uses some kind of electrical current tho.

The Spamming Troll wrote...
i dont see anything about electricity being in overload on the wiki, and the infiltrator doesnt have overload either. i think an electrical melee would be awesome anyways tho.

aka, im in agreement with you. im not trying to convince anyone of anyting. im asking, not argueing. (do i need to put smiley faces in all my posts so you guys know im not trying to be obnoxious???) 

To be fair, you call yourself the Spamming Troll. It sort of kills you in the crib, in that regard.

[The Spamming Troll]

littlezack wrote...

To be fair, you call yourself the Spamming Troll. It sort of kills you in the crib, in that regard.

i know man. i made this name far before i actually understood what a psamming troll actually was. i thought it was a big joke, but people take those words very seriously. i could say something brilliant, and itll never be taken seriously, just becaseu of my name. its my curse.

i actually have the name "niftu cal" (beecasue i AM THE BIOTIC GOD) but i cant remember the password or the email i used to create it. its prolly one of the most dissapointing things ive ever done in my life, forgetting the password to niftu cal.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 05 septembre 2011 - 03:55 .

[Ace of Dawn]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

a.k.a. im in agreement with you. im not trying to convince anyone of anyting. im asking, not argueing. (do i need to put smiley faces in all my posts so you guys know im not trying to be obnoxious???) im just lookking for an answer, that nobody can provide. you guys are just saying "tech is electrical, because a toaster uses electricity", and that makes sense to you. isnt there more things available in the MEuniverse then just using electricity to make things work?

Fair point.

Though with that said, have we seen the infiltrator level-up screen? They changed Liara's powers (removal of warp to something else), it is certainly plausible that Infiltrators now have overload, or some tech ability that makes electrical melees.

Until more info is revealed, there's pretty much nothing to go on here except... well.. toasters running on electricty.

[lazuli]

As far as I know, both the Infiltrator and Vanguard level screens have yet to be revealed.

[No Snakes Alive]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

littlezack wrote...

To be fair, you call yourself the Spamming Troll. It sort of kills you in the crib, in that regard.

i know man. i made this name far before i actually understood what a psamming troll actually was. i thought it was a big joke, but people take those words very seriously. i could say something brilliant, and itll never be taken seriously, just becaseu of my name. its my curse.

i actually have the name "niftu cal" (beecasue i AM THE BIOTIC GOD) but i cant remember the password or the email i used to create it. its prolly one of the most dissapointing things ive ever done in my life, forgetting the password to niftu cal.

Lol c'mon, bro. We don't just look at your username and then dismiss you as a spamming troll; we look at your posts and then put two and two together with your username and assume you're trolling, because - lezbeehonest here - more often than not, your posts don't contain those flashes of brilliance we'd allegedly fail to take seriously just because of your name. I've yet to see that happen lol.

Whether you're comparing wanting a Biotic and Tech-influenced melee animation for a Sentinel to asking for Biotics in Cryo Blast, OR you're questioning the lore behind an electric base for the power that Overloads synthetics because electricity isn't mentioned in the Wiki, your posts can often, in conjunction with your username, be mistaken for bad attempts at trolling.

Now, I'm not trying to belittle or offend you here at all; in fact, if you were dead serious in that quoted post I apologize for mistaking your intentions in the past and treating you like a troll. I hope you realize it's not because I'm just some Internet jerk though and the evidence just kind of pointed me in that direction.

From now on I'll try to take your posts more seriously, and if you really wanna avoid being pigeonholed into the role to which your username suggests you might just belong, maybe try to make sure your posts contain enough common sense not to be mistaken for trolling.

So I apologize again. I srsly thought you were just a troll all along so I feel bad if you're really not. And to answer your question from earlier, I'm pretty sure Bioware didn't feel the need to outright declare that Overload is an electrical attack and simply assumed that as much could be deduced from its implementation.

[Josh123914]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

@ Spamming Troll

Your argument against Overload being electrical in nature isn't going to convince anybody. Not sure why we want to have that tedious discussion anyway, sometimes it seems like people just get caught up in the quicksand of trying to prove each other wrong and forget what they were even talking about in the first place.

And besides, if you really wanted to make a legitimate argument against the electrical infiltrator heavy melee attack (which once again, I don't know why you would), you could have said: "The Infiltrator doesn't even have Overload as one of his powers." But then someone will obviously just counter by saying that Disruptor Ammo is electrical in nature, and we're right back into it.

Tedium takes on a new meaning on the BSN.

Amen. And to keep things on topic (well, this topic - not the thread's original topic lol) is anyone worried that the electric-looking melee that's probably going to belong to the Infiltrator might end up too similar in animation to the Engineer's? Sure looks like an electric backhand is about to occur in that one pic. I doubt they'd recycle like that though. I hope...

Also, anyone else have a strong feeling the heavy melee animations might play a role in deciding their favorite class?

not really, basically if my Infiltrator is doing any meleeing, it'll be with the Talctical Cloak's evolution that effectively copies Kasumi's Deadly Shadow Strike.

[Someone With Mass]

lazuli wrote...

As far as I know, both the Infiltrator and Vanguard level screens have yet to be revealed.

I bet they will be at the next convention. Whenever that is.

I hope the Infiltrator will get a power that works well with the cloak.

[lazuli]

Someone With Mass wrote...

lazuli wrote...

As far as I know, both the Infiltrator and Vanguard level screens have yet to be revealed.

I bet they will be at the next convention. Whenever that is.

I hope the Infiltrator will get a power that works well with the cloak.

I can't wait to see what sort of cooldown manipulation options both of these classes will have.  My biggest complaint with the ME2 Infiltrator is that it has the most down time of any class (recharge doesn't start until Cloak ends).

[The Spamming Troll]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

littlezack wrote...

To be fair, you call yourself the Spamming Troll. It sort of kills you in the crib, in that regard.

i know man. i made this name far before i actually understood what a psamming troll actually was. i thought it was a big joke, but people take those words very seriously. i could say something brilliant, and itll never be taken seriously, just becaseu of my name. its my curse.

i actually have the name "niftu cal" (beecasue i AM THE BIOTIC GOD) but i cant remember the password or the email i used to create it. its prolly one of the most dissapointing things ive ever done in my life, forgetting the password to niftu cal.

Lol c'mon, bro. We don't just look at your username and then dismiss you as a spamming troll; we look at your posts and then put two and two together with your username and assume you're trolling, because - lezbeehonest here - more often than not, your posts don't contain those flashes of brilliance we'd allegedly fail to take seriously just because of your name. I've yet to see that happen lol.

Whether you're comparing wanting a Biotic and Tech-influenced melee animation for a Sentinel to asking for Biotics in Cryo Blast, OR you're questioning the lore behind an electric base for the power that Overloads synthetics because electricity isn't mentioned in the Wiki, your posts can often, in conjunction with your username, be mistaken for bad attempts at trolling.

Now, I'm not trying to belittle or offend you here at all; in fact, if you were dead serious in that quoted post I apologize for mistaking your intentions in the past and treating you like a troll. I hope you realize it's not because I'm just some Internet jerk though and the evidence just kind of pointed me in that direction.

From now on I'll try to take your posts more seriously, and if you really wanna avoid being pigeonholed into the role to which your username suggests you might just belong, maybe try to make sure your posts contain enough common sense not to be mistaken for trolling.

So I apologize again. I srsly thought you were just a troll all along so I feel bad if you're really not. And to answer your question from earlier, I'm pretty sure Bioware didn't feel the need to outright declare that Overload is an electrical attack and simply assumed that as much could be deduced from its implementation.

you offend me in almost every post youve made to me. you dont see that? personally, i think you are an internet jerk, atleast to me. i also dont think you know exactly what it is i am posting around here with what your trying to reference from me anyways. maybe the definition of being a troll is as interchangable as the word RPG, perhaps.

but you really havent answered any question ive asked, other then saying a toaster uses electricity, so that means an omnitool will too. does ANYONE know what produces techs???? i feel like this is something someone should know, not assume to know.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 05 septembre 2011 - 05:48 .

[TobyHasEyes]

Biotic Sage wrote...

olymind1 wrote...

not bad

but for sentinel would be great to make omni-blade at least partially biotic, or pure biotic.

or with one hand hold the enemy with biotic, and with the second hand kill with omni blade, but not 2 omni-blades, it makes that class too solider-, engineer-like...

in my opinion

You're preaching to the choir here.  If you look back through this thread you'll see that pretty much everybody echoes your sentiment.  In fact, I have yet to find a person on the whole BSN who disagrees with this.

 Don't think anyone would argue with the idea that the Sentinel should have some biotics as part of their heavy melee, but I daresay a lot of people would object to a biotic (however partially) blade