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[No Snakes Alive]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

...i wonder if my adept is going to require a bunch of debuffers as squadmates. i can only assume enemy protections wont be in MP, or my adept is gonig to be playing a secondary roll.

Very likely. The main idea of the co-op MP is to work as a team (up to four players versus the AI). Apparently, you have never played something like that before, because if you did, you should know that survival (or success) does NOT depend on what every individual can do, but how well those individuals work as a team. Since you seem to hate teamwork in ME2, you're not likely going to enjoy co-op. You're too individualistic (or narrow minded) for that.

Oh, and regarding this Batman issue - Charge is not a CQC power, it's an ability to get the player into CQC range, which is something else entirely.

BS on all fronts!

what other ME-like game features survival based on what happens as a unit, rather then how well you do as an individual?

i will play MP alot, and ill play it with you on day 1 if you want!

 charge blows up the surrounding enemies and slows down time. maybe the initiate act of starting your momentum, but carge is more then moving from A to B. if we exclude "comming out of charge" then yeah id agree with you. batman doesn cloak and use sniper rifles. he busts through doors and breaks people faces with his fists. if you dont think charge is a batmanesque move, then your reading the wrong comics.

I don't think the issue is that other people are reading the wrong comics; it's that you're pretending to have read the right ones when you haven't read any. Batman doesn't bust doors down and smash people's faces in: that's the Incredible Hulk. Batman plans ahead and strikes from the shadows (and would you imagine that; your Infiltrator squadmate in ME2 had a move called Shadow Strike!). Yes Batman can kick ass in a straight up fight but that's not how he beat the ****** out of Superman, is it? He's known for being a master strategist, not some berserker. You're jut flat out wrong here.

And nobody mentioned anything at all about sniping. Not even once. You seem stuck on the misconception that Infiltrators have to snipe, but you're wrong again. As usual. There's a reason everyone else here is saying Charge would not suit Batman at all. Guess what that reason is?

And no Charge doesn't slow down time and blow up all the surrounding enemies lolol. My god.


Anyway, on topic: think well get to progress our characters like some sort of Call of Duty-esque system and open up powers and evolutions (instead of perks and whatnot) by playing the co-op mode? This seems like it has potential...

[The Spamming Troll]

so if batman doesnt use anything the infiltrator features, like sniping and cloaking, then how is batman like the infiltrator? and only one other person agreed with you. i know you like relying on saying that "everyone" agrees with you, when its only one other person. with your train of thought id think youd say the engineer is most like batman. but im wrong, im sure.

you never noticed the time dialation and the surrounding enemies fly backwards after you use charge? im not sure if your thinking things out here.

i really cant wait to play MP ME3 with you no snakes.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 11 octobre 2011 - 08:02 .

[No Snakes Alive]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

so if batman doesnt use anything the infiltrator features, like sniping and cloaking, then how is batman like the infiltrator? and only one other person agreed with you. i know you like relying on saying that "everyone" agrees with you, when its only one other person. with your train of thought id think youd say the engineer is most like batman. but im wrong, im sure.

you never noticed the time dialation and the surrounding enemies fly backwards after you use charge? im not sure if your thinking things out here.

i really cant wait to play MP ME3 with you no snakes.

I soooo cannot wait for that either lol. Except I'm gonna have to spend the entire time debuffing enemies for you since you don't know how to use Biotics properly lolol /trollface.

And again, the Infiltrator is a hybrid between Tech and Combat, and strikes from the shadows (case in point: Shadow Strike, or before you get all "that's Kasumi not Infiltrator" on me, the point behind cloaking). The Infiltrator is more or less your Mass Effect take on a stealth combat class. That's very much Batman: he utilizes his many gadgets (that's Tech if you really need that spelled out), his martial arts training (Combat) and above all else, planning (Infiltrating) and stealth (Cloak). If you can't connect the dots there but you can between Charge and Batman I can't help you, and when we play MP together I'm just gonna make a Salarian Engineer, name him Thor, and start yelling for mighty Mjolnir to attack every time I cast Combat Drone lol.

Also, pretty sure more than one person suggested Charge wouldn't work for Batman but it's whatever. Let's stop derailing like we usually do, dude. Especially now that we have some powers and evolutions worth speculating about. And with that said, anyone think the co-op characters may even get some new powers altogether, or would that take away from Shep/single-p too much?

[Biotic Sage]

C-o-c-k fight again? You guys haha

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 11 octobre 2011 - 10:23 .

[No Snakes Alive]

Biotic Sage wrote...

C-o-c-k fight again? You guys haha

Lmao bro this thread would be on page 100 by now if it wasn't for Troll and myself. We need something to tide us over during this power-and-evolution information drought and that something just so happens to be Biotic Batman lol.

Don't even lie: you know you're already dying to play ME3 co-op with me and Troll.

[adonfraz]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

C-o-c-k fight again? You guys haha

Lmao bro this thread would be on page 100 by now if it wasn't for Troll and myself. We need something to tide us over during this power-and-evolution information drought and that something just so happens to be Biotic Batman lol.

Don't even lie: you know you're already dying to play ME3 co-op with me and Troll.

Can't wait, I wouldn't mind playing co-op with you guys. :happy:

I'd roll with a defense stripping tank Sentinel just to help Troll play like the biotic god he is.


Xbox Live GT: Loyal Catalyst

[el master pr]

Wait... if Shep's the Biotic Batman, who's the protection-stripping Sentinel Robin?

[karthikc]

Batman? This thread is about Batman now? Wow.

Here's some numbers about warp not in the thread OP:

Warp Evolution:

Warp: 8 sec recharge, 180 damage
Recharge: -25%
Damage: +30%
Damge +40% <==> Detonation damage,radius,force +100%
Periodic damage (unknown) <==> Damage taken from weapons/biotics +25% for 10s
Resistance damage (unknown) <==> Recharge speed (unknown)

The percentages are from the demo and probably placeholder; worth updating anyway.

[Biotic Sage]

karthikc wrote...

Batman? This thread is about Batman now? Wow.

Here's some numbers about warp not in the thread OP:

Warp Evolution:

Warp: 8 sec recharge, 180 damage
Recharge: -25%
Damage: +30%
Damge +40% <==> Detonation damage,radius,force +100%
Periodic damage (unknown) <==> Damage taken from weapons/biotics +25% for 10s
Resistance damage (unknown) <==> Recharge speed (unknown)

The percentages are from the demo and probably placeholder; worth updating anyway.

See second post on the first page.  That's where all the details are.

[karthikc]

Biotic Sage wrote...

karthikc wrote...

Batman? This thread is about Batman now? Wow.

Here's some numbers about warp not in the thread OP:

Warp Evolution:

Warp: 8 sec recharge, 180 damage
Recharge: -25%
Damage: +30%
Damge +40% <==> Detonation damage,radius,force +100%
Periodic damage (unknown) <==> Damage taken from weapons/biotics +25% for 10s
Resistance damage (unknown) <==> Recharge speed (unknown)

The percentages are from the demo and probably placeholder; worth updating anyway.

See second post on the first page.  That's where all the details are.

Ah, thank you. I had not read that.

Side note: Warp now has the description: "An agonizing biotic flare that immolates your opponent." In keeping with that, the visual display of warp is akin to a biotic incineration, not the exploding haze from ME2. Interesting, to say the least. 

[lazuli]

karthikc wrote...

Side note: Warp now has the description: "An agonizing biotic flare that immolates your opponent." In keeping with that, the visual display of warp is akin to a biotic incineration, not the exploding haze from ME2. Interesting, to say the least. 

I wonder if part of the reasoning behind this change is to add some consistency across damage effects.  Players will easily be able to tell that if it causes fire of any kind, it's going to be effective against armor.  In all likelihood, it's just probably for added cool factor.

[karthikc]

lazuli wrote...

I wonder if part of the reasoning behind this change is to add some consistency across damage effects.  Players will easily be able to tell that if it causes fire of any kind, it's going to be effective against armor.  In all likelihood, it's just probably for added cool factor.

That could very well be true. I'm not sure it looks cooler though. ME2 Warp had a very "shredding" look to it, which fits the old ME1 description of Warp. "Biotic flame" sounds like the visual effects artists taking a ****** out of the lore writers.
Not that I mind.  

With Reave (health vampirism?) and Dominate (Mind control?), and the new Warp, Biotics have slowly become a catch-all phrase for magic the devs wanted to put in without calling it magic. How would you handwave "biotic flame" into the concept of varying mass effect fields anyway?

Modifié par karthikc, 14 octobre 2011 - 05:24 .

[TobyHasEyes]

karthikc wrote...

lazuli wrote...

I wonder if part of the reasoning behind this change is to add some consistency across damage effects.  Players will easily be able to tell that if it causes fire of any kind, it's going to be effective against armor.  In all likelihood, it's just probably for added cool factor.

That could very well be true. I'm not sure it looks cooler though. ME2 Warp had a very "shredding" look to it, which fits the old ME1 description of Warp. "Biotic flame" sounds like the visual effects artists taking a ****** out of the lore writers.
Not that I mind.  

With Reave (health vampirism?) and Dominate (Mind control?), and the new Warp, Biotics have slowly become a catch-all phrase for magic the devs wanted to put in without calling it magic. How would you handwave "biotic flame" into the concept of varying mass effect fields anyway?

 Oooh yeh that sounds lame

 Hopefully they will pull that back and stick with 'Warp' being rapidly varying mass effect fields

 I could handle Incinerate Ammo becoming literally flame (instead of hot 'plasma' in ME1.. it does look different) but an unexplained intrusion on biotic lore would be a bother too great

[Biotic Sage]

My poor thread is thirsty for some info. Vanguard info would be most delicious...but at this point we're so parched even some Infiltrator info would be acceptable.

 (kidding of course, I have a Shepard for each class and enjoy playing each one)

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 16 octobre 2011 - 09:18 .

[el master pr]

Even though the game is still <5 months away, this information drought is ridiculous.

[No Snakes Alive]

Biotic Sage wrote...

My poor thread is thirsty for some info. Vanguard info would be most delicious...but at this point we're so parched even some Infiltrator info would be acceptable.

 (kidding of course, I have a Shepard for each class and enjoy playing each one)

Seriously. I mean damn - Spamming Troll and I even ran out of stuff to fight about to keep this thread alive by now lol. This is on life support and it makes me sad. Show us Nova and the new Infiltrator power now, Bioware. NOWWWW! >=O

[Biotic Sage]

UPDATE (finally): There is new info in the first two posts about the Engineer's Combat Drone. I found it from this link.

I will continue to look for more enlightening NYCC video footage to see what else I can scrounge up.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 18 octobre 2011 - 08:09 .

[luckyloser_62]

So no flamethrower drone after all?

[CptBomBom00]

do you get flamethrower weapon?

[Illusive]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

do you get flamethrower weapon?

It looks like they changed it to chain lightning

[JeffZero]

Whoa, six days without a post. I don't typically believe in bumping for the sake of bumping but this is an exceptionally informative thread and needs to stay much closer to the top.

[el master pr]

I agree but let's face it, right now most people want to know about MP. I wish there was something new here

[Someone With Mass]

Well, they could release the info about Nova like they promised they would.

[el master pr]

Yeah, they could. Except, they won't. It wouldn't be the first time either, am I right?