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[el master pr]

lightsnow13 wrote...

They never released the engineer gameplay footage. Wtf? Didn't they say they were going to sometime? The one gameplay video I haven't seen.

Let you see the Engineer in action? Heck, they'll even let you play it... next January... on the demo.


/s

[Janus Prospero]

Some new Power screen shots leaked from the beta. We get our first glimpse of ammo power evolutions. Sadly no one I have seen has gone down deep into the talent trees to see what everything does.

[Images removed and compiled in my post below]

Some other interesting things I saw: (1) Disruptor Ammo now works on Biotic Barriers, which doesn't really make a lot of sense and (2) Armor Piercing Ammo (Garrus' Power) can now go through cover, which is just sweet.

Modifié par Janus Prospero, 06 novembre 2011 - 05:19 .

[Jog0907]

well barriers seemed to me as being a quite similar concept to shields (one biotic and the other tech), it still odd to see how electricity charged bullets affect biotics. Ammo evolutions seem to me to be divided between damage and utility, like inferno choosing either damage or area explosion (for cc)

[Janus Prospero]

Some more info for solider talents from the leak. This time we're looking at Combat Mastery and Fitness, the passive talents. I've also typed up info that I've been able to gleam from the videos so that the OP can be updated.

Combat Mastery


Combat Mastery (Soldier only, Passive)
Influence & Damage
Influence & Capacity
Damage -or- Influence & Duration
Henchmen Damage -or- Headshots
Weight Capacity -or- Weapon Master

Rank 2: 5% bonus to weapon damage & 25% bonus to paragon/renegade scores
Rank 3: 30.0 points to weight capacity bonus & 25% bonus to paragon/renegade scores
Rank 4: (5% increase to weapon & 10% to power dmg) vs. (25% increase to power duration & 25% bonus to paragon/renegade scores)
Rank 5: (20% bonus to squadmates' damage) vs. (20% bonus to headshot damage)
Rank 6: (50.0 points to weight capacity bonus) vs. (10% bonus to weapon damage & 40% increase to damage from ammo powers)

Fitness


Fitness (Soldier Version)
Durability
Melee Damage
Melee Damage -or- Durability
Martial Artist -or- Shield Recharge
Melee Synergy -or- Fitness Expert

Rank 2: 10% bonus to health & sheilds
Rank 3: 15% bonus to melee damage
Rank 4: (25% bonus to melee damage) -or- (X% bonus to health & sheilds)
Rank 5: (75% bonus to melee for 30 seconds after enemy is killed from heavy melee) -or- (???)
Rank 6: (25% bonus to melee damage & 25% weapon damage for 20 seconds after enemy is killed from heavy melee) -or- (???)

Concussive Shot


Concussive Shot (Soldier only)
Recharge Speed
Force/Damage
Force/Damage -or- Impact Radius
Shatter -or- Recharge Speed
Amplification -or- Shredder

Incendiary Ammo


Incendiary Ammo (Soldier, Vanguard)
Panic
Damage
Damage -or- Squad Bonus
Ammo Capacity -or- Headshots
Damage -or- Explosive Burst

Rank 2: 15% bonus chance enemies will panic
Rank 3: 4% bonus to armor & health damage
Rank 4: (6% bonus to armor & health damage) -or- (applies ammo to Squad at 50% effectiveness)
Rank 5: (30% increase to ammo capacity) -or- (X% bonus to headshot damage)
Rank 6: (X% bonus to armor & health damage) -or- (AOE???)

Cryo Ammo


Cryo Ammo (Soldier, Infiltrator, Vanguard)
Freeze Chance
Freeze Duration
Freeze Duration -or- Squad Bonus
Ammo Capacity -or- Headshots
Freeze Chance -or- Damage Combo

Modifié par Janus Prospero, 06 novembre 2011 - 07:23 .

[lietk12]

Jog0907 wrote...

odd to see how electricity charged bullets affect biotics.

It could be contrivedly explained as a disruption from the bullets of the biotic amp needed to sustain barrier, maybe.

[1136342t54_]

lietk12 wrote...

Jog0907 wrote...

odd to see how electricity charged bullets affect biotics.

It could be contrivedly explained as a disruption from the bullets of the biotic amp needed to sustain barrier, maybe.

You do know that this could easily be a gameplay mechanic?

Seriously after ME2's ridculous armor is immune to most biotic attack crap why would their be a lore explanation for this?

[Eckswhyzee]

Janus Prospero wrote...
AWESOME STUFF

This is awesome, thanks for posting the images!

MARTIAL ARTIST NINJA SHEP FTW:ph34r:

Modifié par Eckswhyzee, 06 novembre 2011 - 06:22 .

[Biotic Sage]

Janus Prospero wrote...

Some new Power screen shots leaked from the beta. We get our first glimpse of ammo power evolutions. Sadly no one I have seen has gone down deep into the talent trees to see what everything does.

[Images removed and compiled in my post below]

Some other interesting things I saw: (1) Disruptor Ammo now works on Biotic Barriers, which doesn't really make a lot of sense and (2) Armor Piercing Ammo (Garrus' Power) can now go through cover, which is just sweet.

Thanks a lot for the info!  I will be adding all of this in as soon as I can; definitely within the next day or two.

That's awesome news about Disruptor Ammo; what a waste of a power in ME2, especially since it was a pre-requisite to the better ammo powers.  Biotic barriers are basically just biotically boosted shields, so it makes sense to me.

[souljahbill]

I noticed that a lot of people didn't go through the power evolutions at all. Had I had access, that's surely what I would have done.

[Biotic Sage]

souljahbill wrote...

I noticed that a lot of people didn't go through the power evolutions at all. Had I had access, that's surely what I would have done.

Some people just don't have their priorities straight. 

*Sigh*

UPDATE: See OP for some new Soldier details thanks to the leakage.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 06 novembre 2011 - 02:06 .

[lazuli]

Thanks, Janus. It's interesting to see that Incendiary Ammo now has a 15% panic rate. I appreciate the increased stat transparency over ME2, but I wonder how this will play out with rapid fire weapons vs. slower firing weapons.

[AVPen]

Funny thing is, thanks to all this new info from the leaked beta on the Soldier's power evolutions, I'm already in the process of planning out how I'll be upgrading my "canon Soldier" John Shepard once I import him into ME3. 

[CptBomBom00]

N ice

[AVPen]

Oh, another thing I noticed from one of the beta leak videos - Liara no longer has Lift Orb/Grenade, but now has Warp Ammo in it's place (along with Singularity, Stasis, Warp, and Biotic Training).

Although the player didn't look into it's evolutions, he did browse over the skill which showed that Liara's Warp Ammo defaults at:
Health & Armor Damage = 10%
Barrier Damage = 20%
Armor Weakening = -20%
Lifted Target Damage = 25%

Other new Power evolution notes:

Proximity Mine (Garrus's version)
1. Proximity Mine (opens up the power)
2. Recharge Speed (25% increase to recharge)
3. Damage (20% increase to damage)
4. Damage (30% increase to damage)  OR  Impact Radius (40% increase to impact radius)
5. Damage Taken (enemies in the blast zone take 25% more damage from all sources for 8 seconds)  OR  Slow (foes caught in the blast are slowed by 30% for 8 seconds)
6. Damage (?)  OR  Improved Mine (?)

Modifié par AVPen, 07 novembre 2011 - 12:19 .

[Janus Prospero]

AVPen wrote...

Funny thing is, thanks to all this new info from the leaked beta on the Soldier's power evolutions, I'm already in the process of planning out how I'll be upgrading my "canon Soldier" John Shepard once I import him into ME3. 

Me too!

I just wish someone would look at the evolution of Adrenaline Rush! It's like the class defining skill of a Soldier! Come on people!

[blitzkkrieg]

I like what they did for cryo.  It seems fitting.  I'm also starting to plan some builds

[Janus Prospero]

blitzkkrieg wrote...

I like what they did for cryo.

Yeah, me too. I think Cryo is going to be the ultimate Squad Ammo Power.

[luckyloser_62]

Whlie I didn't read any story spoilers from the leaked story line, I couldn't resist reading the list of powers, weapons, and enemies at the top. It really didn't say much it did list some of the evolutions of the Sentry Turret, including turret cryo ammo or turret disrupter ammo and turret rocket or turret shock

[blitzkkrieg]

Janus Prospero wrote...

blitzkkrieg wrote...

I like what they did for cryo.

Yeah, me too. I think Cryo is going to be the ultimate Squad Ammo Power.

Same here.  I used it mostly as squad cryo in ME2, but I think that I might have to try using it for just my power and have my two squadmates use ammo powers that are good against defenses, see how the synergy of that works.

[Biotic Sage]

blitzkkrieg wrote...

Janus Prospero wrote...

blitzkkrieg wrote...

I like what they did for cryo.

Yeah, me too. I think Cryo is going to be the ultimate Squad Ammo Power.

Same here.  I used it mostly as squad cryo in ME2, but I think that I might have to try using it for just my power and have my two squadmates use ammo powers that are good against defenses, see how the synergy of that works.

Cryo ammo does have that tempting "Damage Combo" evolution for its final rank.  I can't pass up maximizing damage...my squadmates will have to do without the ice ammo so that I can have the ultimate weapon.

[blitzkkrieg]

I'm interested to see what freeze chance means. I'm currently blindly speculating that it has a chance to freeze armored enemies, but I doubt that. I want to see what the damage combo evolution does when applied, although I'm sure I will get around to using both.

[Someone With Mass]

I have seen some pretty interesting passive evolutions that are tied to the heavy melee. Like killing an enemy with the heavy melee increases melee damage by 75% for 30 seconds or gives a weapon damage increase by 20% for 20 seconds.

[NYG1991]

I was able to catch a glimpse of stasis. It now says that damaging the target has a chance of releasing them. So they're not immune anymore you just risk freeing them up in exchange for a cheap shot.

[Biotic Sage]

NYG1991 wrote...

I was able to catch a glimpse of stasis. It now says that damaging the target has a chance of releasing them. So they're not immune anymore you just risk freeing them up in exchange for a cheap shot.

You have the link handy by any chance?

[NYG1991]

Not sure how to link it but in the sur kesh vid I mashed the pause key at around the 6:52 mark

"A powerful mass effect field immobilized a target for a short time. Doing damage to the target has a chance of removing the stasis effect. Stasis is ineffective against larger creatures. "

16sec recharge
4 sec duration