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[jasonsantanna]

AVPen wrote...

blitzkkrieg wrote...

Energy Drain gives us an additional layer of armor?! So there is hope for Shepard getting an armor layer of protection via powers/armor. As always the info is much appreciated.

Also, the energy drain giving armor just solidified my continuation of sentinel drain tank

I don't know if it's really an additional or second layer of Armor over his/her shields - it could simply be a reduction to all damage inflicted for a certain amount of seconds (which is what the description makes it sound like).


Also, trying to find additonal info on the grenades like Biotic, Lift, and Sticky Grenades is a major pain in the @ss - those are less organized than the other powers and the naming conventions are all over the map (Biotic grenade is Cluster, Lift grenade is still Lift Orb, vice versa). The 2nd rank for all grenades seems to be Max Grenade (increases the number of grenades that you carry), while the 3rd rank is Damage (increases grenade damage by x%) , but trying to decipher where and what the remaining evolutions are for each is pretty damn impossible with how the script is organized.

I did find these descriptions, however:
Cluster/Biotic Grenade:  A cluster of grenade fragments that creates a biotic blast that tosses enemies around violently, causing a massive amount of damage. Highly effective against shield/barrier.

Lift Grenade:  Detonates a biotic grenade that does a massive amount of damage and briefly lifts all nearby targets, leaving them vulnerable to attack.

Sticky Grenade:  An explosive grenade adheres to your enemy, violently mangling them after a brief period of time.

Sounds like Sticky grenade may work a bit like the Plasma grenade from Halo, I wonder if enemies will panic when its stuck to them like in Halo . . . .

Modifié par jasonsantanna, 17 janvier 2012 - 04:11 .

[XDMMX]

Cluster/Biotic Grenades sound devastating! I could imagine taking out very large groups of enemies with them.

Modifié par XDMMX, 17 janvier 2012 - 04:39 .

[AVPen]

Found the Vanguard's version of Fitness while I was searching for something else (still listed as Fortitude in the script, btw):

Fitness (Vanguard
2nd Rank
Durability   Adds x% to health bonus and barrier bonus.

3rd Rank
Melee Damage   Adds x% to melee damage bonus.

4th Rank
Melee Damage   Adds x% to melee damage bonus. 
OR
Durability   Adds x% to health bonus and barrier bonus. 

5th Rank
Martial Artist (originally called Melee Spree)    x% increase to melee damage for x seconds when an enemy is killed by a heavy melee attack.
OR
Fast Regeneration   Reduces the time before your barrier recharges by x%

6th Rank
Melee Synergy   Adds x% to melee damage bonus. x% increase to recharge speed of the next biotic charge when an enemy is killed with heavy melee.
OR
Durability   Adds x% to health bonus and barrier bonus.


I'll finish up on the remaining Tech Powers evolutions tomorrow.

Modifié par AVPen, 17 janvier 2012 - 05:43 .

[Biotic Sage]

Thanks Fathom and AVPen for all the new info! I will incorporate it into my compilation as soon as possible; right now I gotta get some sleep for work tomorrow.

[Ahglock]

XDMMX wrote...

Cluster/Biotic Grenades sound devastating! I could imagine taking out very large groups of enemies with them.

I don't want devastating I want a biotic power.  If I wanted to throw grenades I'd play a soldier or a vanguard or something that is more of a combat class instead of a biotic class.    

[AVPen]

Almost forgot, but here's the missing 5th and 6th Ranks for the Soldier's version of Fitness:

5th Rank
Martial Artist (originally called Melee Spree)   x% more melee damage for x seconds when an enemy is killed by a heavy melee attack.
OR
Shield Recharge   Reduces the time before your shields start recharging by x%.

6th Rank
Melee Synergy    Adds x% to melee damage bonus. Increases weapon damage by x% for x seconds when an enemy is killed with a heavy melee attack.
OR
Fitness Expert   Years of rigorous combat experience grants an additional x% health bonus and shield bonus.

Modifié par AVPen, 17 janvier 2012 - 07:42 .

[Someone With Mass]

I think it's called Martial Artist instead of Melee Spree.

[AVPen]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think it's called Martial Artist instead of Melee Spree.

That's correct, didn't notice that till I rechecked the video of the leaked beta - corrected the info in my posts.

[XDMMX]

Ahglock wrote...

XDMMX wrote...

Cluster/Biotic Grenades sound devastating! I could imagine taking out very large groups of enemies with them.

I don't want devastating I want a biotic power.  If I wanted to throw grenades I'd play a soldier or a vanguard or something that is more of a combat class instead of a biotic class.    

Hey im with you on that, I was pissed off when I found out they replaced Overpower with Biotic Grenades. But this late in game development, chances are we will have to just live with the Grenades. I was just pointing out that the Biotic Grenades sound devastating.

Who knows maybe the Cluster/Biotic Grenades will be something cool, like the Cluster Shock Grenades in infamous. They could even right in some lore like for the Adepts using the Grenades.

Just trying to be optimistic.

[Last Vizard]

XDMMX wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

XDMMX wrote...

Cluster/Biotic Grenades sound devastating! I could imagine taking out very large groups of enemies with them.

I don't want devastating I want a biotic power.  If I wanted to throw grenades I'd play a soldier or a vanguard or something that is more of a combat class instead of a biotic class.    

Hey im with you on that, I was pissed off when I found out they replaced Overpower with Biotic Grenades. But this late in game development, chances are we will have to just live with the Grenades. I was just pointing out that the Biotic Grenades sound devastating.

Who knows maybe the Cluster/Biotic Grenades will be something cool, like the Cluster Shock Grenades in infamous. They could even right in some lore like for the Adepts using the Grenades.

Just trying to be optimistic.

You sound like one of the guys that finishes talking then says "Its behind me isn't it", why would Biotic Grenades be devastating? didn't they change Overpower because It made Adepts too strong? Soldiers still have their adrenaline rush though.

[XDMMX]

Last Vizard wrote...

You sound like one of the guys that finishes talking then says "Its behind me isn't it"

Judging me from a few lines in a post?

why would Biotic Grenades be devastating? didn't they change Overpower because It made Adepts too strong? Soldiers still have their adrenaline rush though.

I was saying that Biotic Grenades SOUNDED devastating, its just a personal opinion, for all I know they suck, but whining about it wont change anything, so I prefer to be optimistic and hope for the best.

[Last Vizard]

XDMMX wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

You sound like one of the guys that finishes talking then says "Its behind me isn't it"

Judging me from a few lines in a post?

why would Biotic Grenades be devastating? didn't they change Overpower because It made Adepts too strong? Soldiers still have their adrenaline rush though.

I was saying that Biotic Grenades SOUNDED devastating, its just a personal opinion, for all I know they suck, but whining about it wont change anything, so I prefer to be optimistic and hope for the best.

Lol firstly, thats not saying somethings wrong with you, just that reading your upbeat post reminded me of a guy being optimistic right before something got a hold of him, second Is that my favourite class is Adept so I've been annoyed since ME2 came out.

Third, I'm not liking the fact that we don't have detailed information on the Adept class and if its going to be equall to the other classes.

Edit: fourth, a grenade.... what?

Modifié par Last Vizard, 17 janvier 2012 - 08:05 .

[Someone With Mass]

It's not like biotics are that hard to replicate in an artificial form, anyway.

The Blackstorm imitates a biotic singularity. If that can be done, I think they can do something like the biotic grenades.

[Last Vizard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

It's not like biotics are that hard to replicate in an artificial form, anyway.

The Blackstorm imitates a biotic singularity. If that can be done, I think they can do something like the biotic grenades.

Then why are Grenades class specific at all?

[Someone With Mass]

Last Vizard wrote...

Then why are Grenades class specific at all?

To balance it out.

Most other classes have some form of grenade power.

Engineer has the sentry turret, Soldier has the frag grenades, Infiltrator has sticky grenades and Sentinel has the biotic grenades. I'm not sure about the Adept and Vanguard, but from the sounds of things, the Vanguard doesn't need any grenades.

[XDMMX]

Last Vizard wrote...

Lol firstly, thats not saying somethings wrong with you, just that reading your upbeat post reminded me of a guy being optimistic right before something got a hold of him,

Oh lol, I see what you mean now, im kinda tired so I completely mistook that.

second Is that my favorite class is Adept so I've been annoyed since ME2 came out.

Yea, Adept was one of my favorite classes in ME1, but BioWare neutered the Adept in ME2, hopefully the Adept will be risen to its former glory in ME3, but im beginning to dougt thats going to happen.

Third, I'm not liking the fact that we don't have detailed information on the Adept class and if its going to be equall to the other classes.

This is bothering me aswell, great now you have me worrying that the Adept is gonna suck in ME3!

Edit: fourth, a grenade.... what?

Didn't make sense to me either, what was wrong with Overpower? Now we have a Soldier ability as one of the Adepts only new abilities, its like BioWare is trying to make the Adept cater to the shooter crowd or something?

Modifié par XDMMX, 17 janvier 2012 - 08:44 .

[Last Vizard]

XDMMX wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

Lol firstly, thats not saying somethings wrong with you, just that reading your upbeat post reminded me of a guy being optimistic right before something got a hold of him,

Oh lol, I see what you mean now, im kinda tired so I completely mistook that.


Didn't make sense to me either, what was wrong with Overpower? Now we have a Soldier ability as one of the Adepts only new abilities, its like BioWare is trying to make the Adept cater to the shooter crowd or something?

Yeah, not sure If one of the guys testing the game HAD to switch from Soldier to Adept and said to BW "you know what would be cool, to throw a grenade that does something like explode with biotic force" ....

When I play Adept I want to focus on abilities only with out being handicaped because I'm forcing myself not to use guns. 

I guess we're a bit of a minority because I prefer stats and large skill lists like Neverwinter Knights 2, ME 3 story will be good depending on how they sell me SOV's suicide attack on the citadel.  Gameplay, well if they focus so much on shooter then that can only mean they don't care about a ability based class like Adept... sorta feels like ME2 just threw it on at the end like"guys, we forgot Adepts", ME3 seems like the exact same thing has happened "Overpower will take too much tweeking to get right" some random idiot "grenades.... we'll give them biotic grenades that explode with the force of the awesome button"

Modifié par Last Vizard, 17 janvier 2012 - 09:04 .

[XDMMX]

^Agreed.

[Darth_Trethon]

So there it is.....even though not much is known at this time it is extremely clear to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Infiltrator is by far the best class to play as in ME3 period.

[andy6915]

This thread has done far more to hype me for this game then ANY trailer could. I can't wait to try out ME3's power updates.

[TobyHasEyes]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

Then why are Grenades class specific at all?

To balance it out.

Most other classes have some form of grenade power.

 In suggesting that biotics are easy to replicate with tech, you were making a lore point

 Last Vizard replied with a lore question, you then made a gameplay point

 Hence this doesn't really fit together

[andy6915]

If biotics were able to be replicated by non-organics, I can promise you that the heretic Geth would certainly have developed it by now to help them at defeat organic races. There's no way they wouldn't weaponize biotic power if they had that option. The fact that they haven't tells me it can't be done.

And before someone says husks can, I will remind you that they are still part organic. Without the organic parts left, they couldn't do it. Geth have nothing organic about them.

[No Snakes Alive]

Man a whole line of melee-centric evolutions for Fitness! That's wussup. I hope all classes get those, not just Soldier and Vanguard, so I can turn any class into a CQC beast.

And if it is just those I hope they change the Vanguard's heavy melee from that lame punch I've seen floating around as a gif here. The Adept's is so much cooler.

[zeypher]

so shield powers like GSB barrier etc at this time seem to be useless

Modifié par zeypher, 17 janvier 2012 - 12:40 .