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BioWare... seriously... Get over the friggin' Omni-Blade already!


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Gangsters and criminals in the real world sometimes dual wield machinepistols or handguns because they have no firearms training and need to compensate for their ineptitude and lack of accuracy with sheer volume of lead in the air instead.

Seeing Shepard dual wield doesn't instill me with a sense of: "Trained, highly elite skilled soldier," but more of: "Crack dealer defending his turf".

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Instead we'll dual wield Shotguns. Much cooler.

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Hathur wrote...

Gangsters and criminals in the real world sometimes dual wield machinepistols or handguns because they have no firearms training and need to compensate for their ineptitude and lack of accuracy with sheer volume of lead in the air instead.

Seeing Shepard dual wield doesn't instill me with a sense of: "Trained, highly elite skilled soldier," but more of: "Crack dealer defending his turf".


Obviously if Shepard was trained he would tilt the gun sideways. Everybody knows thats a kill shot right there.

-Polite

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Hathur wrote...

Gangsters and criminals in the real world sometimes dual wield machinepistols or handguns because they have no firearms training and need to compensate for their ineptitude and lack of accuracy with sheer volume of lead in the air instead.

Seeing Shepard dual wield doesn't instill me with a sense of: "Trained, highly elite skilled soldier," but more of: "Crack dealer defending his turf".


Tell that to this "trained" police officer

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Shepard has an unlikely perfect aim, so yes, he could double wield effectively.

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Just keep this in mind, Terror. The stigma is that most gamers are immature, stupid little kids (or teenagers at the oldest) and think at we are absolutely obsessed with trinkets and the trivial things about the game. The latter is why they market things like the omni-blade, the Atlas mech, and better graphics so heavily above the story or things that actually can make or break a game to us intelligent folk.

And guess what? The latter is absolutely TRUE. I hear more people ****ing about crap like how the bumper on that car in GTA IV is only using a measely [enter pixel count] than the rest of the car uses [enter very slightly higher pixel count]. "They should be using the higher amount NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!1111". Yeah, f**k how emotionally engaging this scene or that scene should be or how flat the voice-actor was (while offering constructive criticism). We gotz 2 hav up 2 date gwafiks!!!

The same mind frame that runs behind those who refuse to play Final Fantasy VII (7) or VIII (8) because "the graphics suck". The story is great, their rebuttal to it is "Yeah, but the graphics are terrible". Yeah, you wouldn't be saying that 10+ years ago. It is even sadder when those people did play and love it the story and graphics when it was released, but reject it 10+ years later because Elder Scrolls has superior graphics.

Modifié par aLucidMind, 28 août 2011 - 05:22 .


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Takio wrote...

Instead we'll dual wield Shotguns. Much cooler.


You can do that in True Crime L.A.

It was ****ing aweasome

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Ironically the "trained" Turians are the ones who dual-wield and tilt guns sideways.

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I rather dislike the omni blade. It looks so terribly out of place, and it just feels awkward to introduce something of melee importance this late in the game.... but, hey. I just won't use it.

I just hope it doesn't wind up popping up in cutscenes beyond my control. I'm seriously getting major, major Murder Knife vibes from this thing.

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In real life - no, people don't dual wield very often. In a gunfight, you typically want accuracy above all else. It's much better to hold one gun with two hands than two guns with two hand.


Although i think dual pistols look cool as hell... i don't think it fits in ME for gameplay reasons.

ME is a game in which you lean out of cover, pop a shot and falls back into it, dual pistols is more for run n' gun.

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aLucidMind wrote...

Just keep this in mind, Terror. The stigma is that most gamers are immature, stupid little kids (or teenagers at the oldest) and think at we are absolutely obsessed with trinkets and the trivial things about the game. The latter is why they market things like the omni-blade, the Atlas mech, and better graphics so heavily above the story or things that actually can make or break a game to us intelligent folk.

And guess what? The latter is absolutely TRUE. I hear more people ****ing about crap like how the bumper on that car in GTA IV is only using a measely [enter pixel count] than the rest of the car uses [enter very slightly higher pixel count]. "They should be using the higher amount NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!1111". Yeah, f**k how emotionally engaging this scene or that scene should be or how flat the voice-actor was (while offering constructive criticism). We gotz 2 hav up 2 date gwafiks!!!

The same mind frame that runs behind those who refuse to play Final Fantasy VII (7) or VIII (8) because "the graphics suck". The story is great, their rebuttal to it is "Yeah, but the graphics are terrible". Yeah, you wouldn't be saying that 10+ years ago. It is even sadder when those people did play it and reject it on based on that same logic.


I completaly agree, but all you can is.....

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sevach wrote...

littlezack wrote...

In real life - no, people don't dual wield very often. In a gunfight, you typically want accuracy above all else. It's much better to hold one gun with two hands than two guns with two hand.


Although i think dual pistols look cool as hell... i don't think it fits in ME for gameplay reasons.

ME is a game in which you lean out of cover, pop a shot and falls back into it, dual pistols is more for run n' gun.


Depends on the person's preference. I myself would cover-shoot-cover if it was implemented. The bonus is the increased firepower.

Modifié par ThePwener, 28 août 2011 - 05:23 .


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ThePwener wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Gangsters and criminals in the real world sometimes dual wield machinepistols or handguns because they have no firearms training and need to compensate for their ineptitude and lack of accuracy with sheer volume of lead in the air instead.

Seeing Shepard dual wield doesn't instill me with a sense of: "Trained, highly elite skilled soldier," but more of: "Crack dealer defending his turf".


Tell that to this "trained" police officer

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Shepard has an unlikely perfect aim, so yes, he could double wield effectively.


Just because one guy in a meme picture is doing it doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.

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littlezack wrote...

Just because one guy in a meme picture is doing it doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.


C'mon, it does look pretty aweasome. Giving us the option to do it would be favorable.

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Obviously if Shepard was trained he would tilt the gun sideways. Everybody knows thats a kill shot right there.

-Polite


That's the pose i was talking about!!!
Left hand slightly ahead and tilted=Badass

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I demand Parkour in ME 3.

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Since people seem split on the Omni-Blade here's a Poll.

social.bioware.com/2523981/polls/23925/ 

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ThePwener wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Gangsters and criminals in the real world sometimes dual wield machinepistols or handguns because they have no firearms training and need to compensate for their ineptitude and lack of accuracy with sheer volume of lead in the air instead.

Seeing Shepard dual wield doesn't instill me with a sense of: "Trained, highly elite skilled soldier," but more of: "Crack dealer defending his turf".


Tell that to this "trained" police officer

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Shepard has an unlikely perfect aim, so yes, he could double wield effectively.


Fictional pic (tv / movie?) or inept officer... does not practice trigger discipline, is about to accidentally discharge a bullet into the leg / backside of his fellow officer infront of him or possibly into his own foot.

The big gentleman behind him however is using proper trigger discipline.

All that said and done, I spent 6 years working with Canadian law enforcement (not as a police officer, but worked with them on a daily basis). The very notion of dual wielding a weapon would get you laughed at and beratted.

Modifié par Hathur, 28 août 2011 - 05:29 .


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>LOL YOU BUTTMAD
>HEY YOU BUTTHURT
>MADBRO LOLOL
I feel like I am on Reddit. The Omni-blade is just a flashy marketing prop, I agree with TK.

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ThePwener wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Just because one guy in a meme picture is doing it doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.


C'mon, it does look pretty aweasome. Giving us the option to do it would be favorable.


I concede the dual wielding is cool. At the risk of sounding elitist, though - it just ain't Mass Effect. I can't explain it.

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Takio wrote...

I demand Parkour in ME 3.


You can roll over cover and there is seamless transition between cover (exactly the same way Wanted Weapons of Fate did it too). So not original. Except for the roll. But Saints Row The Third also has rolls and rolling over cover. Not jumping or leaping it. Literally rolling over it.

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Hathur wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Gangsters and criminals in the real world sometimes dual wield machinepistols or handguns because they have no firearms training and need to compensate for their ineptitude and lack of accuracy with sheer volume of lead in the air instead.

Seeing Shepard dual wield doesn't instill me with a sense of: "Trained, highly elite skilled soldier," but more of: "Crack dealer defending his turf".


Tell that to this "trained" police officer

Image IPB

Shepard has an unlikely perfect aim, so yes, he could double wield effectively.


Fictional pic (tv / movie?) or inept officer... does not practice trigger discipline, is about to accidentally discharge a bullet into the leg / backside of his fellow officer infront of him or possibly into his own foot.

What does one picture prove? Just like a Desert Eagle, it is an illogical loadout. Desert Eagles have no tactical efficieny and are widely regarded as a show gun, yet you see some people in the force using them. The fact of the matter is that it wouldn't logical to dual wield pistols in a military situation.

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ThePwener wrote...

sevach wrote...

littlezack wrote...

In real life - no, people don't dual wield very often. In a gunfight, you typically want accuracy above all else. It's much better to hold one gun with two hands than two guns with two hand.


Although i think dual pistols look cool as hell... i don't think it fits in ME for gameplay reasons.

ME is a game in which you lean out of cover, pop a shot and falls back into it, dual pistols is more for run n' gun.


Depends on the person's preference. I myself would cover-shoot-cover if it was implemented. The bonus is the increased firepower.


It is doable, but it would have to be balanced with either (or both), a lot slower to get in and out of position, targeting reticle goes absolutely wild if you keep firing.

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Dionkey wrote...

What does one picture prove? Just like a Desert Eagle, it is an illogical loadout. Desert Eagles have no tactical efficieny and are widely regarded as a show gun, yet you see some people in the force using them. The fact of the matter is that it wouldn't logical to dual wield pistols in a military situation.


There was a hole. It made the hole. Now there's a hole.

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Takio wrote...

I demand Parkour in ME 3.

Keep that in the other ME, don't put it in here.:D

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ThePwener wrote...

Takio wrote...

I demand Parkour in ME 3.


You can roll over cover and there is seamless transition between cover (exactly the same way Wanted Weapons of Fate did it too). So not original. Except for the roll. But Saints Row The Third also has rolls and rolling over cover. Not jumping or leaping it. Literally rolling over it.


Not just Rolling, I want to slide and wall-hop, just like Brink. 

Modifié par Takio, 28 août 2011 - 05:33 .