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[Humanoid_Typhoon]

There is some *nudge nudge hint hint* going on about LI not being limited to crew,maybe we can finally make ti with Shiala...or Aethyta

Or maybe Gavron will be a new S/S love interest...

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 août 2011 - 10:54 .

[Seboist]

laecraft wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Yep, Zaeed is better for a short term fling while TIM is for the long term. TIM has looks,charm,charisma, wealth and power.  None of the chump underlings that pass for "LI" of femshep can compare to that.

It's regrettable that we can't have TIM as a LI. Just imagine all the drama, with him being the main antagonist and a manipulative bastard who would exploit FemShep if she'd let him. But it suppose it's too much work, and it would take a separate story to tell properly.

It's also a pity we can't have an equal or a superior as a LI. The romances are too isolated from the story and exist in their small bubbles. It's like Shepard's too busy or too lazy to look outside of the ship for romance. And why not use that ruthless charm to help the cause of fighting the Reapers? A Renegade knows the true meaning of the words "whatever it takes." If Shepard can save a couple of trillions of lives by embracing eternity with the asari Councilor...But I suppose it's too much work to let Shepard's romances affect the storyline.

Never mind the romance, I wish we could have personal relationships that develop throughout the game and in the crucial moment affect the outcome of the war and the direction of the galactic civilizations. Wouldn't that be amazing. Not everything can be solved by shooting - sometimes the true power is liaisons. But even if we managed not to get all our alien liaisons killed, somehow I doubt they're going to make much of a difference.

Yeah, as they exist now they're mainly just a fan-servicey mini-game for players to have thier kicks. I've created a Talimancer Sheploo that's pro-Cerberus with a vain hope that it'll create drama and conflict in ME3.

The lack of friendship paths besides the railroaded Liara one are troublesome indeed. It feels like my Shepard and her squadmates barely tolerate each other and only stick around due to her magic charisma. It doesn't help that some of the conversations with them are as if my Shepard is accessing a VI terminal to learn about the Krogan,Geth,Drell,etc either.

[Dave of Canada]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Or maybe Gavron will be a new S/S love interest...

WE KNOW GAVORN'S TRICKS

[Seboist]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

There is some *nudge nudge hint hint* going on about LI not being limited to crew,maybe we can finally make ti with Shiala...or Aethyta

Or maybe Gavron will be a new S/S love interest...

Shiala and Gianna were hinted at being possible future light romances in ME2. My womanizer Sheploo looks forward to that..

Aethyta would be one hell of a LI. That would be the first Asari any of my Shepards romances.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Seboist wrote...

Aethyta would be one hell of a LI. That would be the first Asari any of my Shepards romances.

I would have to kick Kasumi out of the lounge.

Also, QFT

We would find alternative methods of getting the blue off her ass...

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 août 2011 - 11:08 .

[Sepewrath]

laecraft wrote...
Never mind the romance, I wish we could have personal relationships that develop throughout the game and in the crucial moment affect the outcome of the war and the direction of the galactic civilizations. Wouldn't that be amazing. Not everything can be solved by shooting - sometimes the true power is liaisons. But even if we managed not to get all our alien liaisons killed, somehow I doubt they're going to make much of a difference.

That's not a bad idea, but ultimately its unfeasible. This would be really complicated if you tried to make it a choice for the player; if you played it, you saw that in New Vegas. The whole relationship thing is rather shallow, it would take complex AI to actually pull this off in a way that is not completely mechanical. Otherwise it would be no different than say Shepard's relationship with the likes and Anderson, Wrex, the Council, Aria etc. They do sort of what your suggesting, but they keep it in Shepard's small world.

[Golden Owl]

laecraft wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Yep, Zaeed is better for a short term fling while TIM is for the long term. TIM has looks,charm,charisma, wealth and power.  None of the chump underlings that pass for "LI" of femshep can compare to that.

It's regrettable that we can't have TIM as a LI. Just imagine all the drama, with him being the main antagonist and a manipulative bastard who would exploit FemShep if she'd let him. But it suppose it's too much work, and it would take a separate story to tell properly.

It's also a pity we can't have an equal or a superior as a LI. The romances are too isolated from the story and exist in their small bubbles. It's like Shepard's too busy or too lazy to look outside of the ship for romance. And why not use that ruthless charm to help the cause of fighting the Reapers? A Renegade knows the true meaning of the words "whatever it takes." If Shepard can save a couple of trillions of lives by embracing eternity with the asari Councilor...But I suppose it's too much work to let Shepard's romances affect the storyline.

Never mind the romance, I wish we could have personal relationships that develop throughout the game and in the crucial moment affect the outcome of the war and the direction of the galactic civilizations. Wouldn't that be amazing. Not everything can be solved by shooting - sometimes the true power is liaisons. But even if we managed not to get all our alien liaisons killed, somehow I doubt they're going to make much of a difference.

Never mind dating someone who can affect the storyline. How about wooing someone who doesn't take orders from Shepard, for once? CAN Shepard even do that? I'm starting to have my doubts! *stares at poor, cornered Jacob*

Suddenly all those rules about fraternizations are starting to make sense. It's like after they've been lifted, Shepard can't have enough of it.

I have often wondered about Aria in similar context....I could in fact imagine her and Shep getting together in bed...not for love...but politics, a union of convienance as such...a way to join their forces AND have some pull over each other.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Aria would also make a good LI...

As long as I don't f*ck with Aria I can still....you know...

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 août 2011 - 11:37 .

[khordlambert]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Aria would also make a good LI...

You'd have to get permission from Wrex first. It's Bro Code.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Ah yes "bros before hoes" an unspoken bond between bros.

[capn233]

This thread provided some entertainment.

I don't really get why there is so much crying going on, or even why there is partisanship between "paragons" and "renegades" and talk about how one is so oppressed.

Here are my two cents though.

"Expose Saren" - Udina essentially tells you to investigate and find evidence that Saren is rogue. Someone brings up Garrus and then they tell you to go talk to Harkin because he might know how to find Garrus. The other lead is to talk to Barla Von. Either way, you eventually have to go to Chora's Den. You deal with the guards either way and end up with a defenseless Fist who gives you the info you want... If Wrex is with you he shoots him. Why is the Wrex fan club not as unhappy that Fist doesn't have a cameo in ME2 if you took him to see Fist? They are getting "punished" as much as the "renegades." And I doubt Shepard had broad authority to do whatever he wanted. He was a LtCmdr in the Alliance, not a Spectre yet. I don't know why anyone would think that. He is given Spectre status specifically to track down Saren after he is exposed. And he wasn't authorized to run and gun wherever he wanted. Nobody gives him that authorization, and Udina is pissed afterwards: “You aren’t making my life easy Shepard. Firefights in the wards, an all out assault on Chora’s Den. Do you know how many people…” Fortunately you had the evidence and it sort of blew over.

Helena Blake - technically accepting her mission is a renegade option. Hmm taking the word of some random person to go assassinate two alleged criminals. I realize you have access to the mission even if you give the paragon response, but you aren't obligated to actually do it. Additionally, if you are a real renegade with sufficient intimidate points, you get more or less the same outcome as the paragon.

Feros - Maybe the kill everyone option should have had the Normandy blast them from orbit. Honestly, even if the grenades didn't work it isn't too hard to beat that paragon by punching all the colonists.

Rachni Queen - you either believe her or you don't. Maybe a straight paragon is too trusting, but then again the straight renegade is likewise suspicious and perhaps paranoid. You don't really get any benefit in ME2 from sparing her except another dialogue... consequences TBD in ME3. I usually spare her. You can do what you want. Both choices are available in game.

Save the Council - Doesn't make a lot of sense to hold the ships back such that the Citadel fleet can be completely annihilated before the arms open. It wasn't as if the Geth weren't going to bother the Alliance ships after the arms opened. That's why I typically saved them. The real renegade option is "screw the council" which was purposely letting them get killed before the Alliance engages. Pretty much just vindictive... if that is who your character is then more power to them. Not being respected by aliens afterwards is a likely outcome. Not that you have much of a disadvantage in ME2 from it.

In ME2 a lot of the renegade interrupts are seemingly useful... At least to make fights easier. Killing Cathka, shooting the tank in Miranda's mission, shooting the pipe in Mordin's mission. Pushing the guy out the window in Thane's mission is somewhat different. Yeah you get to see him fall to his death, doesn't really derive any benefit to the player.

As far as the CB, it is been rehashed over and over. I doubt Cerberus would have the wisdom to study it safely, nor would they be content to use it only against the Reapers. Perhaps the reasons Shepard gives in the dialogue aren't the best. I don't see a huge hang up that Shepard would object to keeping the CB and also keeping the Genophage data though. Paragon Shepard was hugely critical of the Genophage to begin with. He also was not loyal to Cerberus and disagreed with their actions. In fact, he goes out of his way through the campaign to state that the anticollector mission is his mission with his team and he isn't Cerberus (even if he has a bunch of their staff and funding).

[khordlambert]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Ah yes "bros before hoes" an unspoken bond between bros.

Not so much "Bros before hoes" as man code actually. If you wish to date a buddie's ex, you are required to first ask his permission, and he in return is required to give it.

Modifié par khordlambert, 31 août 2011 - 11:47 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

khordlambert wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Ah yes "bros before hoes" an unspoken bond between bros.

Not so much "Bros before hoes" as man code actually. If you wish to date a buddie's ex, you are required to first ask his permission, and he in return is required to give it.

I know,sounded funnier though...also krogan don't seem to mind sharing fertile females....

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 août 2011 - 11:55 .

[TheZyzyva]

Wait, Aria is the Asari Wrex mentions in ME1? Whaaaaaat?
Also, how did this topic get so derailed? People actually got tired of arguing?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

TheZyzyva wrote...

Wait, Aria is the Asari Wrex mentions in ME1? Whaaaaaat?
Also, how did this topic get so derailed? People actually got tired of arguing?

Aethyta as a LI is never off topic.

[Seboist]

laecraft wrote...

Shepard and Wrex sharing one female... At least not at the same time. Although it's one way to strengthen their bond, I suppose.

Anyway, I doubt Wrex would mind Shepard being with Aria very much, since he's got that fertile krogan female now, thanks to Shepard. He can have actual krogan children. And that female krogan looks very warlike. He'll forget Aria in an instant.

It's Shepard that I'm worried about. Giving Aria free access to his mind doesn't seem very wise. Especially since this association is not tempered with affection. What he can learn about her plans is not enough to justify the security risk of her learning about his. Shepard's mission concerns the entire galaxy. Aria's dominion is Omega only. They're not exactly equal.

But it's a step up from bedding the underlings, I suppose.

[Golden Owl]

Seboist wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Shepard and Wrex sharing one female... At least not at the same time. Although it's one way to strengthen their bond, I suppose.

Anyway, I doubt Wrex would mind Shepard being with Aria very much, since he's got that fertile krogan female now, thanks to Shepard. He can have actual krogan children. And that female krogan looks very warlike. He'll forget Aria in an instant.

It's Shepard that I'm worried about. Giving Aria free access to his mind doesn't seem very wise. Especially since this association is not tempered with affection. What he can learn about her plans is not enough to justify the security risk of her learning about his. Shepard's mission concerns the entire galaxy. Aria's dominion is Omega only. They're not exactly equal.

But it's a step up from bedding the underlings, I suppose.

.........Honestly...what can I say to that....

[nitefyre410]

Golden Owl wrote...

Seboist wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Shepard and Wrex sharing one female... At least not at the same time. Although it's one way to strengthen their bond, I suppose.

Anyway, I doubt Wrex would mind Shepard being with Aria very much, since he's got that fertile krogan female now, thanks to Shepard. He can have actual krogan children. And that female krogan looks very warlike. He'll forget Aria in an instant.

It's Shepard that I'm worried about. Giving Aria free access to his mind doesn't seem very wise. Especially since this association is not tempered with affection. What he can learn about her plans is not enough to justify the security risk of her learning about his. Shepard's mission concerns the entire galaxy. Aria's dominion is Omega only. They're not exactly equal.

But it's a step up from bedding the underlings, I suppose.

*snip*

.........Honestly...what can I say to that....

 

but
why
huh
Wrex
back door
Krogan
Top hat
Monicle
what
... I 
can't
NOOOOOO!!   

[InvincibleHero]

Seboist wrote...

Seeing my favorite squadmate Zaeed getting the "Helena Blake" treatment was tough to watch. There's nothing sadder than to see a ruthless merc who's known nothing but violence for most of his life and who's been obsessing over revenge for 20 years being robbed of his manhood by being talk-jutsu-ed into submission in less than a minute after having a gun shoved in his face.

It's very odd Zaeed doesn't hold any animosity for Shepard having him relive that traumatic experience Vido gave him back in the day.

Do you recall Zaeed talking about when another man shoves a gun in your face you'll do what they want unless you're a cold blooded killer or a psychopath? A paraphrase as the exact wording might not be quite right. Well Zaeed is professional and will do the job he was paid to and may seek revenge on Shepard at a later time. I would not expect in ME3 because Shepard might be the salvation of everyone, but afterwards. MAYBE?!?

[khordlambert]

Golden Owl wrote...

].........Honestly...what can I say to that....

You can praise the hilarious glory of Wrex in a top hat and monicle. The rest of the comic is funny enough, but that just sells it for me.