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[Sajuro]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Just as has been explained to everyone one of you who posts a drive-by comment without looking at the thread, SMUGBOY AND HIS VIDEOS ARE NO LONGER THE PRIMARY OR EVEN SECONDARY TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.  If you bothered to read a page or two before posting, you'd know that.  But you don't.  You just felt like making a non-contributing, non-topical, utterly useless post. 

And in four or five pages, someone else will do the same damn moronic thing. 

I beg to disagree - I've tried to maintain on topic, and for one I don't accept your authority in this thread to tell me what the topic of this discussion should be about. if that's your idea.

Based solely on percentages of posts, the title of the thread now represents a fleeting percentage of the actual post content. 

Then why is this thread still around if it has gone so off topic that the only mentions of the OT are drive by comments?

[Killjoy Cutter]

Sajuro wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Just as has been explained to everyone one of you who posts a drive-by comment without looking at the thread, SMUGBOY AND HIS VIDEOS ARE NO LONGER THE PRIMARY OR EVEN SECONDARY TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.  If you bothered to read a page or two before posting, you'd know that.  But you don't.  You just felt like making a non-contributing, non-topical, utterly useless post. 

And in four or five pages, someone else will do the same damn moronic thing. 

I beg to disagree - I've tried to maintain on topic, and for one I don't accept your authority in this thread to tell me what the topic of this discussion should be about. if that's your idea.

Based solely on percentages of posts, the title of the thread now represents a fleeting percentage of the actual post content. 

Then why is this thread still around if it has gone so off topic that the only mentions of the OT are drive by comments?

Why not?  There's still a discussion being had. 

[Sajuro]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Just as has been explained to everyone one of you who posts a drive-by comment without looking at the thread, SMUGBOY AND HIS VIDEOS ARE NO LONGER THE PRIMARY OR EVEN SECONDARY TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.  If you bothered to read a page or two before posting, you'd know that.  But you don't.  You just felt like making a non-contributing, non-topical, utterly useless post. 

And in four or five pages, someone else will do the same damn moronic thing. 

I beg to disagree - I've tried to maintain on topic, and for one I don't accept your authority in this thread to tell me what the topic of this discussion should be about. if that's your idea.

Based solely on percentages of posts, the title of the thread now represents a fleeting percentage of the actual post content. 

Then why is this thread still around if it has gone so off topic that the only mentions of the OT are drive by comments?

Why not?  There's still a discussion being had. 

then create a thread where that discussion is on topic and you won't get people saying "Smudboy is still being discussed?"
by the way, what is the discussion?

[Killjoy Cutter]

The way to not get driveby posters asking why the thread is still going is to not have people see a thread title, look at then length of the thread, and post a moronic comment without reading the thread. Simple as that.

/derail

[Shepard the Leper]

dreman9999 wrote...

You problem is that your looking at it backwards. Your not seeing that stopping the collectors is stopping the reapers.(More so, stopping the collectors is more of slowing the reapers down than stopping them.) Everyone that states that ME2 has nothing to do with the reapers forgets the fact they they fight a half finished one at the end of ME2.

I think you're looking backwards. Give one reason why stopping the Collectors will help to defeat the Reaper attack. Technically Shepard is trying to find an T-Rex egg while a horde of fully grown T-Rex'es are on the horizon.

Also explain how it makes sense to believe TIM and go after the Collectors. TIM has no evidence to show Shep, how the hell did he find out about the connection to the Reapers in the first place? Why do the Collectors kill Shepard, and the next moment Harbinger orders his goons to keep Shep alive (while they are trying to kill him/her)? Why doesn't Shep care about this? Wouldn't it be logical to question those Collectors? To find out what they're doing? What they know about the Reapers? Why can't an Asari squadmate do the "embrace eternity" thing on a Collector to read its mind? Why does Shepard completely ignore the Reapers? What the heck is (s)he doing anyway?

Shepard's nobelprice winning solution to this is to kill all Collectors on sight and to destroy their base (and all the potential evidence inside it). A brilliant investigation, right?

ME2 is like a James Bond movie in which 007 doesn't even attempt to do something about the badguy. I think it's fair to say that such a bond movie would be a top Razie contender and nobody would praise the "brilliant" plot (coz there ain't one). ME2's "main plot" is best described as a "lolwut- plot".

Let me explain some more.....The reapers us agents to do thing they can't or get to in order to start and achieve their plans....We saw this with Seran in ME1. In ME2 we learn that they did the same thing with the rachni and the collectors are their agents. Now, we know they are coming and we know the collectors are agents of the reapers with advance tech given to them from the reapers, even building a reaper themselves under orders of the reapers....If we want to learn as much info about the reapers as possible....would it not make sense to attack the ones with the most info on them? And that happens to be the collectors...That would mean that facing and defeating the collector gets us info on the reapers anyway. So really, I don't see how it not involving the reapers at all fighting the collectors in ME2.

Shepard doesn't show the slightest interest in what the Collectors are doing and why. Shepard doesn't even know why (s)he launches a suicide mission except to kill some goons who are abducting a negletable number of humans. Why risk your life for nothing when you know what's coming?

The Collector nonsense is like Frodo abandoning his quest to destroy Sauron's ring to track down a mountain troll who has killed a couple of insignificant farmers. Maybe the troll "works" for Sauron, but so what. Destroying the ring is what matters, the troll is a tiny side-show at best (like the Collectors).

The Shepard in ME2 is either a complete moron or (s)he has suffered severe braindamage during the resurrection thing. Hell, the average Michael Bay plot makes more sense than ME2's. Even in COD games you know why you're going to a new area. ME2's plot got me shaking my head in disbelief every time - it's so bad it's almost hilarious. Fortunately, the other stuff was very good so it's fun to play, but a 5 year old child can write a better story than the one about Shep, TIM and the Collectors.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Huh, so somehow tens of thousands of colonists are "negligible", and their abductions and deaths don't represent the slightest worry, or the slightest motivation for Shep to stop the Collectors?


Again, there are those who will say anything to base ME2, just as there are those who will say anything to defend it.

[Someone With Mass]

What can Shepard do against the bad guys when they're in dark space, billions of light years away?

[Shepard the Leper]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Huh, so somehow tens of thousands of colonists are "negligible", and their abductions and deaths don't represent the slightest worry, or the slightest motivation for Shep to stop the Collectors?

Tens of Thousands are negiligble when trillions of lifes are at stake. They would die anyway when we fail to stop the Collectors. So yes, that's an insignificant sideshow in the greater sheme of things.

[Shepard the Leper]

Someone With Mass wrote...

What can Shepard do against the bad guys when they're in dark space, billions of light years away?

Searching for clues and info about those badguys who apparently have visited the ME universe many times before. The Derelict Reaper is one of the things they've left behind, but Shep doesn't show any interest in the ship coz (s)he's too focused on finding a device to do suicidal stuff. How does that make sense? Salvaging the ship would have been far more beneficial to find a way to stop the Reapers than going berserk with the Collectors.

The Geth worked with the Reapers, why not try and catch one (like Tali did on her own in ME1)?

When Shepard finally has found some evidence about the Collector-Reaper connection (long before launching the SM) why doesn't (s)he catch one to interrogate or search its mind for clues?

The Shepard in ME2 doesn't care nor seems to be interested in the Reapers. All (s)he does is going blindly after the Collectors, without a plan and without having the slightest idea how it's going to help to stop the Reapers.

[Sajuro]

So what can Shepard do while the Reapers take their sweet time to get to the galaxy? You don't expect him to head out into dark space and try to find the Reapers do you? The Lord of the rings comparison is invalid because Frodo knows where mount doom is and is actively heading towards it. If Sauron was whole and dragging mount doom behind him, coming to attack middle earth from an unknown land then Frodo might go after the troll if it helps them prepare for Sauron's imminent arrival.

[Sajuro]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

What can Shepard do against the bad guys when they're in dark space, billions of light years away?

Searching for clues and info about those badguys who apparently have visited the ME universe many times before. The Derelict Reaper is one of the things they've left behind, but Shep doesn't show any interest in the ship coz (s)he's too focused on finding a device to do suicidal stuff. How does that make sense? Salvaging the ship would have been far more beneficial to find a way to stop the Reapers than going berserk with the Collectors.

The Geth worked with the Reapers, why not try and catch one (like Tali did on her own in ME1)?

When Shepard finally has found some evidence about the Collector-Reaper connection (long before launching the SM) why doesn't (s)he catch one to interrogate or search its mind for clues?

The Shepard in ME2 doesn't care nor seems to be interested in the Reapers. All (s)he does is going blindly after the Collectors, without a plan and without having the slightest idea how it's going to help to stop the Reapers.

Do you even talk to the characters? or did you rush through?
1) The Derelict Reaper trapped them on it, and the only way to escape is to destroy it. Before you say he could have towed it behind the Normandy, getting the IFF was objective #1

2) Tali was incredibly lucky and skilled to get the small clip of voice she did, since Geth fry their brains upon death or incapacitation.

3) They don't have minds, they are just drones. To quote Mordin: No souls, replaced by tech.  You could have Samara meld with one of them but you would probably get more information from a horny varren.

4) Usually attacking someone's agents or minions tends to screw with their production or operations. If he knew that the Reapers were coming, murdering the collectors now just meant that there would be less source of ground forces for the Reapers to kill us all with

Is critical thinking dead in today's youth?

[Arkitekt]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

I think you're looking backwards. Give one reason why stopping the Collectors will help to defeat the Reaper attack. Technically Shepard is trying to find an T-Rex egg while a horde of fully grown T-Rex'es are on the horizon.

Clearly, the only trace Shepard has on the reapers is the Collector's actions. What then do you propose for Shepard to do?

Also explain how it makes sense to believe TIM and go after the Collectors. TIM has no evidence to show Shep, how the hell did he find out about the connection to the Reapers in the first place?

Omega 4 relay being "Collector only" is a clear indication that they possess reaper tech. Collectors were around even when Shepard died, and there has passed sufficient time to make some intel on them. It appears that there is a crowd of people here who if they aren't spoonfed every single bit of information, they are unwilling to accept it at all. It appears Smudboy has made school.

Why do the Collectors kill Shepard, and the next moment Harbinger orders his goons to keep Shep alive (while they are trying to kill him/her)? Why doesn't Shep care about this? Wouldn't it be logical to question those Collectors? To find out what they're doing? What they know about the Reapers? Why can't an Asari squadmate do the "embrace eternity" thing on a Collector to read its mind? Why does Shepard completely ignore the Reapers? What the heck is (s)he doing anyway?

I really have no idea what could have Shepard done instead of fighting the Collectors. Wage his fists to dark space? And I have never witnessed forced "embracing the darkness" work before. And if the Collectors are mindless drones, what could you possibly learn from them? Harby would just "possess" the collector and try to "FOCUS ON SHEPARD". 

Shepard's nobelprice winning solution to this is to kill all Collectors on sight and to destroy their base (and all the potential evidence inside it). A brilliant investigation, right?

Yeah, let's not fight the guys who are abducting humans by the hundreds of thousands, reaching the millions by the second (or third?) colony being entirely abducted. Let's give some pause to think here, and ponder that we should not be so strident against them.

ME2 is like a James Bond movie in which 007 doesn't even attempt to do something about the badguy. I think it's fair to say that such a bond movie would be a top Razie contender and nobody would praise the "brilliant" plot (coz there ain't one). ME2's "main plot" is best described as a "lolwut- plot".

Sure, laugh it up Garrus. But before you do, please describe how 007 can reach dark space without being a reaper.

Shepard doesn't show the slightest interest in what the Collectors are doing and why. Shepard doesn't even know why (s)he launches a suicide mission except to kill some goons who are abducting a negletable number of humans. Why risk your life for nothing when you know what's coming?

Millions of humans = neglectable.

Is this a joke?

The Collector nonsense is like Frodo abandoning his quest to destroy Sauron's ring to track down a mountain troll who has killed a couple of insignificant farmers. Maybe the troll "works" for Sauron, but so what. Destroying the ring is what matters, the troll is a tiny side-show at best (like the Collectors).

The Shepard in ME2 is either a complete moron or (s)he has suffered severe braindamage during the resurrection thing. Hell, the average Michael Bay plot makes more sense than ME2's. Even in COD games you know why you're going to a new area. ME2's plot got me shaking my head in disbelief every time - it's so bad it's almost hilarious. Fortunately, the other stuff was very good so it's fun to play, but a 5 year old child can write a better story than the one about Shep, TIM and the Collectors.

You suffer the same problem as Smudboy. I have no problems with criticisms against ME2 (contrary to rumours), but pathetic bashing like yours while getting all the fiction facts wrong, the intentions wrong, the inferences wrong, etc.,etc., is just annoying. Stop it.

[Arkitekt]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

What can Shepard do against the bad guys when they're in dark space, billions of light years away?

Searching for clues and info about those badguys who apparently have visited the ME universe many times before. The Derelict Reaper is one of the things they've left behind, but Shep doesn't show any interest in the ship coz (s)he's too focused on finding a device to do suicidal stuff. How does that make sense? Salvaging the ship would have been far more beneficial to find a way to stop the Reapers than going berserk with the Collectors.

You are either retarded or just amazingly distracted. Shepard was quite interested in the derelict Reaper, until he found himself trapped inside of it, with an army of husks trying to kill him her. The only way out was to destroy the core, which in turn would make it fall into the gas giant (brown dwarf?). They managed to do so right before more husks were going to crush them.

DId you even pay attention to the game?

The Geth worked with the Reapers, why not try and catch one (like Tali did on her own in ME1)?

Like say Legion?

Because if you are retardedly implying that they could have caught another Geth and made it "talk", you are forgetting that usual Geth do not talk at all, and their data is quite incomplete. They are only "complete" when joined into hubs. However, very little would have been gained by getting said data, as Legion shows.

When Shepard finally has found some evidence about the Collector-Reaper connection (long before launching the SM) why doesn't (s)he catch one to interrogate or search its mind for clues?

Here you are making an unsupported claim that Asari are just Vulcans.

The Shepard in ME2 doesn't care nor seems to be interested in the Reapers. All (s)he does is going blindly after the Collectors, without a plan and without having the slightest idea how it's going to help to stop the Reapers.

Believe in what you want. if that makes you happy. I'm not going to suffer foolishness for too long.

[Shepard the Leper]

Sajuro wrote...

Do you even talk to the characters? or did you rush through?
1) The Derelict Reaper trapped them on it, and the only way to escape is to destroy it. Before you say he could have towed it behind the Normandy, getting the IFF was objective #1

You have an odd way to prioritize. Stopping the Reapers is the only objective that matters (failure means total destruction). Salvaging the ship first would be the top priority for anyone with a brain that still works.

The whole point of finding the IFF is to figure out what the Collectors are up to and what they know about the Reapers. There's damn Reaper right there, and you suggest to ignore it?

2) Tali was incredibly lucky and skilled to get the small clip of voice she did, since Geth fry their brains upon death or incapacitation.

She followed the Geth and caught one who got separated. That doesn't sound too difficult to me, but then again, Shepard destroys everyone and everything first, which doesn't help when you're looking for info.

3) They don't have minds, they are just drones. To quote Mordin: No souls, replaced by tech.  You could have Samara meld with one of them but you would probably get more information from a horny varren.

Have you heard about the Geth? Do they have souls? Then they have no information that might be worthwhile, right?

4) Usually attacking someone's agents or minions tends to screw with their production or operations. If he knew that the Reapers were coming, murdering the collectors now just meant that there would be less source of ground forces for the Reapers to kill us all with

Is critical thinking dead in today's youth?

How does destroying the Collectors help to stop the Reapers? They are no real threat and their role during the Reaper invasion would have been neglectible anyway (what's one Collectorship compared to thousands of far more powerful Reaperships?).

Please explain with your critical thinking abilities what Shep has learned about the Reapers in ME2 that (s)he didn't already know in ME1. Just give one example where Shepard is actually looking for clues about the Reapers in ME2 - there are none.

[Someone With Mass]

Staying aboard the derelict Reaper longer than necessary would just be foolish, since there are indoctrination fields all over the place.

Also, just because stopping the Collectors won't do more than slowing the Reapers down doesn't make them less of a threat.

Because if it was the case, then we could've might as well let them come through the Alpha relay and...oh...right.

It'd be like ignoring a nuclear meltdown like Chernobyl just because the North Koreans are testing nukes.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 26 septembre 2011 - 05:07 .

[Shepard the Leper]

Arkitekt wrote...

You are either retarded or just amazingly distracted. Shepard was quite interested in the derelict Reaper, until he found himself trapped inside of it, with an army of husks trying to kill him her. The only way out was to destroy the core, which in turn would make it fall into the gas giant (brown dwarf?). They managed to do so right before more husks were going to crush them.

Wouldn't it be logical to get the Reaper somewhere safe first? What's Shep's hurry to find the IFF? Are the Collectors a bigger thread than the Reapers?

DId you even pay attention to the game?

It's best to play the game without paying attention to the "main plot" - lot more fun that way. I enjoy the ME universe and some of its characters. The whole Collector thing is at best a nice side-mission like ME1's BDtS.

Like say Legion?

Because if you are retardedly implying that they could have caught another Geth and made it "talk", you are forgetting that usual Geth do not talk at all, and their data is quite incomplete. They are only "complete" when joined into hubs. However, very little would have been gained by getting said data, as Legion shows.

You should go back and play Legion's LM. Shepard has the option to modify the Heretics (the Geth working for Saren / Reapers) on their base of operations. But wait, isn't Shepard going there to help Legion instead of looking for info?

Here you are making an unsupported claim that Asari are just Vulcans.

Uh, Asari can join minds with almost all intelligent species. Saren used this technique in ME1 to get info. How do you know or even expect this doesn't work on a Collector?

[Sgt Stryker]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

You are either retarded or just amazingly distracted. Shepard was quite interested in the derelict Reaper, until he found himself trapped inside of it, with an army of husks trying to kill him her. The only way out was to destroy the core, which in turn would make it fall into the gas giant (brown dwarf?). They managed to do so right before more husks were going to crush them.

Wouldn't it be logical to get the Reaper somewhere safe first? What's Shep's hurry to find the IFF? Are the Collectors a bigger thread than the Reapers?

With what would they pull the Reaper out, exactly? I highly doubt the Normandy could pull a 2-km dreadnought out of the gravity well of a brown dwarf. This isn't The Little Engine That Could.

[Shepard the Leper]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

You are either retarded or just amazingly distracted. Shepard was quite interested in the derelict Reaper, until he found himself trapped inside of it, with an army of husks trying to kill him her. The only way out was to destroy the core, which in turn would make it fall into the gas giant (brown dwarf?). They managed to do so right before more husks were going to crush them.

Wouldn't it be logical to get the Reaper somewhere safe first? What's Shep's hurry to find the IFF? Are the Collectors a bigger thread than the Reapers?

With what would they pull the Reaper out, exactly? I highly doubt the Normandy could pull a 2-km dreadnought out of the gravity well of a brown dwarf. This isn't The Little Engine That Could.

Shepard isn't the only person in the galaxy. When did TIM find the ship? How did Legion find it and when? Shouldn't the Geth and Cerberus be very interested in this vessel (I would be in their shoes)? I suppose they have the resources to get it clear.

I could have accepted the IFF mission events of ME2 if the game gave a reasonable explanation why it would be impossible to salvage. The game didn't and also gave no real explanation how it had been found or overlooked for so long - it's just there all of a sudden. Then there is the other Reaper in the Arrival DLC - wouldn't those objects be a far better targets for Shepard instead of hunting down a bunch a pawns (Collectors)?

[Nashiktal]

Well then let's just tow the reaper onto anvabanonrd planet or something. I mean, added not grasping how big Of a find a dead reaper is? Thats valuable enough to try to research it again, This time being more cautious about indoctrination.

And by towing I mean before boarding in the first place. I mean damn... We have a reaper right there!!!!! The things we have been ignoring for most of the game. A dead reaper is magnitudes more valuable than a second hand base.

[111987]

Who says they weren't going to salvage it? They weren't planning on destroying it; it was just unlucky that it had to be crushed.

Besides, do you really want to have a ship that indoctrinated and huskified all your researchers anywhere near you?

Modifié par 111987, 26 septembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[Sgt Stryker]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

You are either retarded or just amazingly distracted. Shepard was quite interested in the derelict Reaper, until he found himself trapped inside of it, with an army of husks trying to kill him her. The only way out was to destroy the core, which in turn would make it fall into the gas giant (brown dwarf?). They managed to do so right before more husks were going to crush them.

Wouldn't it be logical to get the Reaper somewhere safe first? What's Shep's hurry to find the IFF? Are the Collectors a bigger thread than the Reapers?

With what would they pull the Reaper out, exactly? I highly doubt the Normandy could pull a 2-km dreadnought out of the gravity well of a brown dwarf. This isn't The Little Engine That Could.

Shepard isn't the only person in the galaxy. When did TIM find the ship? How did Legion find it and when? Shouldn't the Geth and Cerberus be very interested in this vessel (I would be in their shoes)? I suppose they have the resources to get it clear.

I could have accepted the IFF mission events of ME2 if the game gave a reasonable explanation why it would be impossible to salvage. The game didn't and also gave no real explanation how it had been found or overlooked for so long - it's just there all of a sudden. Then there is the other Reaper in the Arrival DLC - wouldn't those objects be a far better targets for Shepard instead of hunting down a bunch a pawns (Collectors)?

Do you mean Object Rho? I thought that was merely an artifact, not a full-fledged Reaper. Then again, it spoke to us....

[Someone With Mass]

111987 wrote...

Who says they weren't going to salvage it? They weren't planning on destroying it; it was just unlucky that it had to be crushed.

Besides, do you really want to have a ship that indoctrinated and huskified all your researchers anywhere near you?

Nothing a little napalm can't fix.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Huh, so somehow tens of thousands of colonists are "negligible", and their abductions and deaths don't represent the slightest worry, or the slightest motivation for Shep to stop the Collectors?

Tens of Thousands are negiligble when trillions of lifes are at stake. They would die anyway when we fail to stop the Collectors. So yes, that's an insignificant sideshow in the greater sheme of things.

And never mind the people you know you can save right now?  Never mind that you don't know what the Collectors are up to, besides working for the Reapers and taking humans off to do who knows what with them, until you actually reach the base?  

Whatever.

Like I said, some people are just determined to rag on ME2 even if they have to make $#!+ up to do it. 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 26 septembre 2011 - 06:10 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

You are either retarded or just amazingly distracted. Shepard was quite interested in the derelict Reaper, until he found himself trapped inside of it, with an army of husks trying to kill him her. The only way out was to destroy the core, which in turn would make it fall into the gas giant (brown dwarf?). They managed to do so right before more husks were going to crush them.

Wouldn't it be logical to get the Reaper somewhere safe first? What's Shep's hurry to find the IFF? Are the Collectors a bigger thread than the Reapers?

With what would they pull the Reaper out, exactly? I highly doubt the Normandy could pull a 2-km dreadnought out of the gravity well of a brown dwarf. This isn't The Little Engine That Could.

Shepard isn't the only person in the galaxy. When did TIM find the ship? How did Legion find it and when? Shouldn't the Geth and Cerberus be very interested in this vessel (I would be in their shoes)? I suppose they have the resources to get it clear.

I could have accepted the IFF mission events of ME2 if the game gave a reasonable explanation why it would be impossible to salvage. The game didn't and also gave no real explanation how it had been found or overlooked for so long - it's just there all of a sudden. Then there is the other Reaper in the Arrival DLC - wouldn't those objects be a far better targets for Shepard instead of hunting down a bunch a pawns (Collectors)?

Do you mean Object Rho? I thought that was merely an artifact, not a full-fledged Reaper. Then again, it spoke to us....

The only Reaper in Arrival was, again, Harbinger, and again, only in "hologram" form.   Object Rho was just an indoctrination device. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

Believable reason for Cerberus to leave the dead Reaper where it was for the time being -- because they're the only ones who know where it is. Even when it would be better to do something else, TIM will always ere on the side of secrecy. He's plot-predictable like that.

The smart thing to do would be to haul the thing out and show it to everyone in the galaxy.  It would STUN me if TIM did anything of the sort. 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 26 septembre 2011 - 06:15 .