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[onelifecrisis]

dreman9999 wrote...

No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen.

I don't think I can compete with such a master of logic.

[Arkitekt]

Learn to write, ffs. Dictionaries are all over the netz, and don't come tell me it's not your first language, since it's not mine either. You spam these threads over and over and still are unable to write one decent paragraph without making anyone's eyes cringe with terror.

And if you don't understand why a gazillion-beings-sized 2km with millions of years old amazing technology being vanerable [sic] because the puny 1.8m organic you are hacking has collapsed, I can't help you. It's probably even beyond anyone's capabilties to do so.

[dreman9999]

onelifecrisis wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen.

I don't think I can compete with such a master of logic.

I sorry...But you seem so hung up on wanting Tali to engage the Ymir mech with no real logical reason why. Even though She can't do anything to it, you say she sould be trying to hack it knowing full well that she can't hach through the defence. You say she sould beable to because It a cut scene but no cut scene in the game show that it can happen. So really, what on earth supports the fact that she should engage a massively over powered war machine even though she can do little to it at all?
Face it, it's better for her not to engage and help where needed.

[dreman9999]

Arkitekt wrote...

Learn to write, ffs. Dictionaries are all over the netz, and don't come tell me it's not your first language, since it's not mine either. You spam these threads over and over and still are unable to write one decent paragraph without making anyone's eyes cringe with terror.

And if you don't understand why a gazillion-beings-sized 2km with millions of years old amazing technology being vanerable [sic] because the puny 1.8m organic you are hacking has collapsed, I can't help you. It's probably even beyond anyone's capabilties to do so.

No, I can't understand because your not explain. You just saying it should not happen because it should not. You not giving any reasons why. Why should it not have that as a weakness? We went in detail to why it happen and all your saying is it should not just because. You have a manual to how a reaper works on you that give the detail what should or should not work on a reaper? If not then I think I need to explain what happen to you one more time......Reapers indocrinate organics, doing it remotly with out full control make the control traget dumb and nearly useless like a husk. For that reason they keep skilled agent intelegent so they can control them and have the agent do skill objectives the reapers can't do due to size ,distance, or what ever. If the agent fails, the reaper take control of it. It's like they take the agents body and makeit part of their own. If the totaly control body is destroyed, the reaction is like a person being gravely wounded. The feel it and is stunned by it. That's how it works. I matter not if is a million or billion in one being or not, that happens. Their is no reason why it should not happen. So please give me a clear reason why it should nothappen that way.

[Someone With Mass]

Shepard the Leper wrote...


"The Collectors are most well known for their odd trade requests for which they offer new technologies, often of a startling level of advancement. Their requests usually involve the trade of living beings in odd numbers and varieties .. "

The Geth followed Saren who worked for the Reapers. The Collectors are working for the Reapers. That basically makes the Geth and Collectors allies. Of course Shepard doesn't know this on Horizon, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that the Collectors and Geth traded or shared technology (which is what you're saying).

Technically, the geth aren't living beings.

And those living beings in odd numbers and varieties were usually things like two dozen left-handed salarians, sixteen sets of batarian twins, a krogan born of parents from feuding clans, or two dozen "pure" quarians — quarians that have never left the Migrant Fleet due to illness, importance to the fleet, or disability.

They're experimenting on organics to develop things like the plague virus they used on Omega.

I don't think they have any use of any geth technology either, since they seem advanced enough themselves.

[onelifecrisis]

dreman9999 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen.

I don't think I can compete with such a master of logic.

I sorry...But you seem so hung up on wanting Tali to engage the Ymir mech with no real logical reason why. Even though She can't do anything to it, you say she sould be trying to hack it knowing full well that she can't hach through the defence. You say she sould beable to because It a cut scene but no cut scene in the game show that it can happen. So really, what on earth supports the fact that she should engage a massively over powered war machine even though she can do little to it at all?
Face it, it's better for her not to engage and help where needed.

Actually I've never once said that she should hack it, you simply assumed that's what I meant. All I said was that she shouldn't have run away.

Jack single-handedly defeats four YMIR mechs using only her biotics (one of which she destroys with a single punch). Archangel single-handedly holds off a sustained assault on his base of operations for over a day (during which, at one point, the Mercs threw a gunship at him). Samara single-handedly defeats an Eclipse Lieutenant's "best troops", again using only biotics. Thane single-handedly dispatches a room full of Eclipse mercs in about three seconds.

Either Tali should have fought the YMIR Mech, or every other character should have been made less uberawesomepic. As it is, Tali comes off as a wuss relative to all the other characters AND relative to her combat effectiveness in ME1.

[The Interloper]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
1. I'm not skewing anything. You're free too look at it that way if you want.ME2 story simply fails. It's full of holes, it's badly constructed, rushed, with points that go nowhere, idiot balls galore and things that make little sense in the overall anrrative. I'm rating it exactly the same as I would any other game/book/movie story. No difference. Same criteria, same standards. you're the one who tries to skew the criteria, downright handwawing weakneses.
2. Not my problem....
3. I have every reason to accept X and not accept Y - especially when X and Y are not equal, have different implications for the story/universe and require different levels of Suspension of Disbelief.Apples and oranges. not the same, and I won't treat them the same.
4.Your reasnoning is mind boggling. One cannot defeat an intelligent villain? Well, best tell that to all the other stories that did intelligent, powerfull and menecing villains right.The very existance of better written villains proves it's possible.And the goo is simply garbage added for body horror purposes. It's a faliure in writing. When your main villain - who is supposed to be ancient, menacing, horrifying -  becomes a internet joke then you have failed somewhere.Immagine Hanbial Lecter beging as obnoxious and stupid as Harbie. Kinda ruins the whole movie, doesn't it?
5.Never said it ruins it. I did say it makes sense for Shep to investiage, didn't I?
I have no real problem with Shep investigating the Collectors, but I did want to point out the distinction between knowing something, assuming something based on realiable/probable information, and just guessing.

1. That’s a denial, not a counterargument. You have not proven how ME2’s plot structure is inherently bad, or that you are judging it by the same standards you judged ME1, which had plenty of idiot balls, plot holes, poorly made plans, faction railroading, plot convenience, after-the-fact vindication, a healthy dose of coincidence, and things that make little sense in the overall narrative happen. You spend all this time on how ME2 has bad writing, but similar instances in ME1 get a free pass. And when I broach the topic you just say “no you!” You have neither provided proof of your point nor countered my argument. Just said "I'm right."

2. If someone refuses to accept your arguments, a very obvious possibility is that your arguments don't make sense. To say that "I proved my arguments make sense so if you don't accept them you're just being stubborn" is the very definition of that thing they call “begging the question.” And considering you still haven't even brought up a direct counterargument to my earlier points, I think that question needs to be asked.

3. Nothing's stopping me from eating both apples and oranges unless I have a reason, like I picked them up from the gutter. You still haven't proven how the goo doesn't make sense. You still haven't proven how it contradicts anything or how the reapers can avoid using it. Again, you still haven't countered my points. What reason do you have to not eat it, other then vague platitudes of "bad writing," of which ME1 had plenty? If you don't like the taste fine but why is it “garbage?” Why is it all bad? “It’s only there for body horror”? What, would brain scanning have made it all better?

4. You're missing my point. I did misphrase it a bit, but it almost any story the (often all powerful) villain makes a mistake or oversight somewhere, often several, that allows the hero to win. It happened in ME1. It happened in Star wars (both trilogies). It happened in Dragon Age. It happened in Lord of the Rings. It happens all over the place. That Harbinger brags like a comic book villian does not mean his actions don't entirely make sense in context, or that his arrogance is unwarranted. We can go on and on about how the reapers got downgraded, and I do hope not all the reapers in ME3 act like him, but there's no real giant plot hole here. Oh, and he actually killed the hero.
Also, I've seen people who thought Hannibal Lector was an insufferable ham. Just sayin.

5.  And that’s a minor issue, which is what I’m driving at. Similar things occur in ME1.

Modifié par The Interloper, 27 septembre 2011 - 11:23 .

[Arkitekt]

dreman9999 wrote...

No, I can't understand because your not explain. You just saying it should not happen because it should not. You not giving any reasons why. Why should it not have that as a weakness? We went in detail to why it happen and all your saying is it should not just because. You have a manual to how a reaper works on you that give the detail what should or should not work on a reaper? If not then I think I need to explain what happen to you one more time......

Please don't. Spare me your lousy vocabulary.

Now, the reason is "assymetry". There is an assymetry of scale between the alledged "immortal" strength of a Ctuluh monster and the paltry, microscopic idiotic way that he was made "venerable" [sic]. This is Achilles' heel multiplied by a petaton of explosive TNT. It's laughable and downright fugly. It's like putting a light switch near the USA's border so that an enemy can turn its full power down with his finger.

[100k]

onelifecrisis wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen.

I don't think I can compete with such a master of logic.

O nOEZ

Modifié par 100k, 27 septembre 2011 - 11:32 .

[Sajuro]

Arkitekt wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No, I can't understand because your not explain. You just saying it should not happen because it should not. You not giving any reasons why. Why should it not have that as a weakness? We went in detail to why it happen and all your saying is it should not just because. You have a manual to how a reaper works on you that give the detail what should or should not work on a reaper? If not then I think I need to explain what happen to you one more time......

Please don't. Spare me your lousy vocabulary.

Now, the reason is "assymetry". There is an assymetry of scale between the alledged "immortal" strength of a Ctuluh monster and the paltry, microscopic idiotic way that he was made "venerable" [sic]. This is Achilles' heel multiplied by a petaton of explosive TNT. It's laughable and downright fugly. It's like putting a light switch near the USA's border so that an enemy can turn its full power down with his finger.

there is the word, alleged, Sovereign says he's immortal, but he also says they have always been around and they will always be around so that's flat out stupid. What happens when a squishy gets in the way of his plans? Stops him from opening the Citadel Relay? He gets mad because he's a goddamn Reaper and we are just arrogant little termites causing him a problem, he pours his self into Saren's implants to reanimate him as a Reaper Avatar and kill Shepard. Does he know that if Saren goes down so does he? Probably if he knew how to do it, but there is no way Shepard could beat him in his mind. I would rather them not ignore it because it shows that while they pretend to be cold machine voices, Reapers are very much capable of pride and rage as Sovereign demonstrated. I would prefer it if that wasn't every boss fight in ME3, but that could provide a good sacrifice option at the end of all of it: Shepard somehow gets Harbinger or the Reaper Leader to assume direct control of him and his allies end up gunning Shepard down to stop the Reapers once and for all.

[dreman9999]

onelifecrisis wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen.

I don't think I can compete with such a master of logic.

I sorry...But you seem so hung up on wanting Tali to engage the Ymir mech with no real logical reason why. Even though She can't do anything to it, you say she sould be trying to hack it knowing full well that she can't hach through the defence. You say she sould beable to because It a cut scene but no cut scene in the game show that it can happen. So really, what on earth supports the fact that she should engage a massively over powered war machine even though she can do little to it at all?
Face it, it's better for her not to engage and help where needed.

Actually I've never once said that she should hack it, you simply assumed that's what I meant. All I said was that she shouldn't have run away.

Jack single-handedly defeats four YMIR mechs using only her biotics (one of which she destroys with a single punch). Archangel single-handedly holds off a sustained assault on his base of operations for over a day (during which, at one point, the Mercs threw a gunship at him). Samara single-handedly defeats an Eclipse Lieutenant's "best troops", again using only biotics. Thane single-handedly dispatches a room full of Eclipse mercs in about three seconds.

Either Tali should have fought the YMIR Mech, or every other character should have been made less uberawesomepic. As it is, Tali comes off as a wuss relative to all the other characters AND relative to her combat effectiveness in ME1.

For one Jack is a super boitic who had an intense amount of stored biotic energy in her body due to not exspelling  it due to being cryo.
Garrus used detailed planning and skill to do what he did.
Samara is a battle harden justicar who is near the power level of a matrich who was using boitics on  weaker biotic users.

It not that the character who are made to look fantastic are not fantastic out of the blue. It's that they have the means to do what they did....Tali does not have the means to take on a Ymir mech, so she should not.

[dreman9999]

100k wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen.

I don't think I can compete with such a master of logic.

O nOEZ

Silly that's not an instant hack...That's an overload.

[dreman9999]

Arkitekt wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No, I can't understand because your not explain. You just saying it should not happen because it should not. You not giving any reasons why. Why should it not have that as a weakness? We went in detail to why it happen and all your saying is it should not just because. You have a manual to how a reaper works on you that give the detail what should or should not work on a reaper? If not then I think I need to explain what happen to you one more time......

Please don't. Spare me your lousy vocabulary.

Now, the reason is "assymetry". There is an assymetry of scale between the alledged "immortal" strength of a Ctuluh monster and the paltry, microscopic idiotic way that he was made "venerable" [sic]. This is Achilles' heel multiplied by a petaton of explosive TNT. It's laughable and downright fugly. It's like putting a light switch near the USA's border so that an enemy can turn its full power down with his finger.

I'm sorry...You still not telling me why it can't happen...You just telling me it should not happen. Next time tell me why it should not happen outside that fact that you don't like  that it happened.

[Sgt Stryker]

dreman9999 wrote...

No, your not understanding. No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen. Everything in cutscenes have a reason for it to happen. Tali, can't hack a mech with protection so she doesn't try.

Either that or she forgot to put points into that skill. 

(lolgameplaymechanics)

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 28 septembre 2011 - 03:10 .

[The Interloper]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No, your not understanding. No cutscene has ever shown any instant hack. So it's clear it can't happen. Everything in cutscenes have a reason for it to happen. Tali, can't hack a mech with protection so she doesn't try.

Either that or she forgot to put points into that skill. 

(lolgameplaymechanics)

Just kill enough geth and you'll learn it somehow.

Seriously. Trying to get gameplay mechanics to line up with reality is like trying to eat lunch on a roller coaster. It gets messy, it's not worth the trouble and there's no other way it's going to end except failure.

[Lotion Soronarr]

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Yes, he did....Remember...he did state."I am Soverign, and this station is mine."
The reason why is because a remote controled Saran husk would be too stupid to be able to do what is need to be done.... Look at how the reapers control people. They ether turn them into mind less husk or keep the smart with strong loyalties to the reapers so they do what ever the reapers want them to do. When Saren dies, know one is left to activate the station, so Soverign take dirct control of Saren to do so.

BS.
If you have full motor control, then a remote control husk is just as smart as you.

Where the hell are you digging these redicolous argument from?

Where is this remote-controlled husk thing coming from?

Husks =/= avatars.

Which still begs the question of WHY.
Sarens body at that poitn is basicly a robot. Mechanical bones and reper tech controling every movement. Saren himself is dead, so there is no concioucness "fighting back" or anything.

So someone explain to me why exactly is it necessary for Sovy to put himself into Saren?
Is a remote-controlled saren-husk unable to operate a terminal? nope.
Is it unable to fight? Nope.

Full control is fully control. There is no logical reason behind that weakness.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Arkitekt wrote...

In related news, this conversation reached a point so low in intelligence that I see myself even agreeing with things Soronnar writes. I mean, wow.

Ahhh...your higher level brain functions have finally begun to kick-in!

[Lotion Soronarr]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

What are you talking about? The door doesn't unseal until you actually destroy the core, meaning Shepard had no way off the ship, while being fully assaulted by husks.

Not to mention that they're trapped regardless until the Reaper's barriers are down.

Technicly they could have gone after the emitters, not the core.
OR cear the core room and wait for help.
Or die, rather than destroy the reaper (it's for the good of the galaxy)

Of course, while all those are possible, it's perfectly understandable that Shep and crew didn't think of them on such a short notice, or didn't fee llike sacrificing themselves.

While it's is redicolous to have a endless stream fo Cerberus scientists husks, the developers had to force the player to blow up the reaper. I'll simply chalk that up to uninspired design.

[Lotion Soronarr]

The Interloper wrote...
1. And it's exactly because the end result is the same, except for the raised eyebrows, that I'm willing to give it a pass. They definitly should have clarified why it's only possible for shepard though, like say TIM used some reaper or prothean technology. If that's being played as a plot twist for ME3, at least have Shepard ask about it and TIM evade him. My point was that the thing was flawed in execution. Under other circumstances I think it would have done fine.

And it's exactly why many of us can't. If you have several paths ot take to reach goal X, but take the clearly worse one, then it's eitehr lazyness or stupidity.
They could have made the entire opening fat better. They could have used that plot device FAR more effectively. With MINIMAL effort. And that is hte fact that hurts the most.

Something big that can be changed easily - I can partially forgive that (even tough one would have to wonder why it was made like that inthe first place) But something that has an easy and obvious fix, and is never applied?

3. TIM probably assumed that Shep would be the kind to put the bigger picture ahead of old grudges. He's always right no matter which shepard, but I don't think having every shepard genuinely care about saving the galaxy is to much of a railroading demand for bioware to make. Besides as I said earlier, the timing means he has no real option but to go to Freedom's Progress (and reapers or no, the colony raids are definitly an issue) Afterwards he can accept the ship and the dossiers because he doesn't have a ship or a team, and almost right after that he can actually rush over to the council, after which it's made clear that like it or not, he'll be sticking with TIM. All the while the player can make it clear if they want that their milking Cerberus for all their worth and still havent' forgiven them.

The problem isn't Sheppard. The problem is TIM even going ahead with such a redicolous  plan.
For someone who's supposed to be intelligent, TIM pulls the most retarded plans. Reviving Shep is simply put, one of the worst Deus Ex Machines ever concieved in writing history.

[Lotion Soronarr]

111987 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

Relying on Tweets to clarify things isn't a sign of good story telling.

Like Somebody With Mass said, we wouldn't have needed a tweet if the average gamer could figure out the simple, obvious relation between Saren's death and Sovereign's defeat. Think about it; if the fleet just took down its shields, why would it just collapse and stop firing its weapons?

Er, maybe because they took out more than it's shields?

The timing certainly suggests a link between Saren's (re-)death and Sovereigns shields going down, but it's far from conclusive, and reasonable doubt is cast by the fact that Saren being linked to Sovereign's shields is frickin stupid.

That doesn't make any sense...I'm not really sure how to respond to this. If they took out Sovereign's weapons, or engines or whatever, Sovereign wouldn't have been intact in the cutscene. But Sovereign was; it just randomly collapsed.

Seriously it is so painfully obvious that Saren's death caused Sovereign's defeat. I don't know how else to explain it.

ERm...I'm going to nitpick here  - but no, it's not.

Sovy's shield could have simply been overloaded. And the overload "stunned" him. We are talking about the firepwoer on hte level of hunderds of nukes being thrown at Sovereign. I find it far more credible for that to cause an overlord, rather than some remote.controlled puppet.

The timing of the animation isn'treally an issue, because all animatiosn are set to happen after specific triggers. You can take your sweet time fighting Saren or Sovereign - hours - and the number of ships destroyed by Soverign doesn't change.

[Someone With Mass]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Technicly they could have gone after the emitters, not the core.
OR cear the core room and wait for help.
Or die, rather than destroy the reaper (it's for the good of the galaxy)

Of course, while all those are possible, it's perfectly understandable that Shep and crew didn't think of them on such a short notice, or didn't fee llike sacrificing themselves.

While it's is redicolous to have a endless stream fo Cerberus scientists husks, the developers had to force the player to blow up the reaper. I'll simply chalk that up to uninspired design.

Oh, you mean the emitters that are on the outside of the Reaper, covereing the whole thing? Yeah, that would be a lot of tough work. Especially if they don't have the tools for it.

I'll chalk that one up as a stupid idea in a lame attempt to bash anything ME2 related.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Technicly they could have gone after the emitters, not the core.
OR cear the core room and wait for help.
Or die, rather than destroy the reaper (it's for the good of the galaxy)

Of course, while all those are possible, it's perfectly understandable that Shep and crew didn't think of them on such a short notice, or didn't fee llike sacrificing themselves.

While it's is redicolous to have a endless stream fo Cerberus scientists husks, the developers had to force the player to blow up the reaper. I'll simply chalk that up to uninspired design.

Oh, you mean the emitters that are on the outside of the Reaper, covereing the whole thing? Yeah, that would be a lot of tough work. Especially if they don't have the tools for it.

I'll chalk that one up as a stupid idea in a lame attempt to bash anything ME2 related.

Oy....*sigh*
I know reading comprehension ins't your strength, but you could at least try. Some basic effort to understand what the other guy is trying to say would go a long way.

As to how many emitters one would have to take out, and where exactly they are, and how much firepower is required....Do you know exactly?

[Arkitekt]

dreman9999 wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

No, I can't understand because your not explain. You just saying it should not happen because it should not. You not giving any reasons why. Why should it not have that as a weakness? We went in detail to why it happen and all your saying is it should not just because. You have a manual to how a reaper works on you that give the detail what should or should not work on a reaper? If not then I think I need to explain what happen to you one more time......

Please don't. Spare me your lousy vocabulary.

Now, the reason is "assymetry". There is an assymetry of scale between the alledged "immortal" strength of a Ctuluh monster and the paltry, microscopic idiotic way that he was made "venerable" [sic]. This is Achilles' heel multiplied by a petaton of explosive TNT. It's laughable and downright fugly. It's like putting a light switch near the USA's border so that an enemy can turn its full power down with his finger.

I'm sorry...You still not telling me why it can't happen...You just telling me it should not happen. Next time tell me why it should not happen outside that fact that you don't like  that it happened.

I told you why it should not happen already. Are you ****ing blind? You might disagree, but that would be your insanely big mental problem.

[Shepard the Leper]

Il Divo wrote...

What are you talking about? The door doesn't unseal until you actually destroy the core, meaning Shepard had no way off the ship, while being fully assaulted by husks.

I am talking about the part BEFORE boarding the ship. Is that really so hard to understand?

Just give one reason, only one, to support Shepard's plan of action.

[Lotion Soronarr]

[quote]The Interloper wrote..

1. That’s a denial, not a counterargument. You have not proven how ME2’s plot structure is inherently bad, or that you are judging it by the same standards you judged ME1, which had plenty of idiot balls, plot holes, poorly made plans, faction railroading, plot convenience, after-the-fact vindication, a healthy dose of coincidence, and things that make little sense in the overall narrative happen. You spend all this time on how ME2 has bad writing, but similar instances in ME1 get a free pass. And when I broach the topic you just say “no you!” You have neither provided proof of your point nor countered my argument. Just said "I'm right."[/quote]

Belive what you wish.
And mind you, ME1 did have problems of it's own. However, it has less of them, and they were less aparent. ME1 doesn't get a "free pass". Nothing does.

And there's 200+ pages of reasons and proof as to why it is bad. Go read them and then come back. Or don't.
I care not.


[quote]
2. If someone refuses to accept your arguments, a very obvious possibility is that your arguments don't make sense. To say that "I proved my arguments make sense so if you don't accept them you're just being stubborn" is the very definition of that thing they call “begging the question.” And considering you still haven't even brought up a direct counterargument to my earlier points, I think that question needs to be asked.[/qutoe]

Apply that logic to yourself then. I refused to accept your arguments, does that mean they don't make sense?
I'm tired of repeating myself.
And ther's only so much explnation one can give before concluding the other guy is a hopeless case or just gives up.
This entire thread provides more than enough arguments.



[quote]
3. Nothing's stopping me from eating both apples and oranges unless I have a reason, like I picked them up from the gutter. You still haven't proven how the goo doesn't make sense. You still haven't proven how it contradicts anything or how the reapers can avoid using it. Again, you still haven't countered my points. What reason do you have to not eat it, other then vague platitudes of "bad writing," of which ME1 had plenty? If you don't like the taste fine but why is it “garbage?” Why is it all bad? “It’s only there for body horror”? What, would brain scanning have made it all better? [/quote]

Wether you like apples or ornages in nto hte point. The point is weather something IS a apple or orange. Two things taht are nto the same cannot be treated or called hte same. It's as simpel as that.
The goo is unnecessary. It's over the top. Gratitous. It lessens the reapers.
It is garbage. Period.


[quote]
4. You're missing my point. I did misphrase it a bit, but it almost any story the (often all powerful) villain makes a mistake or oversight somewhere, often several, that allows the hero to win. It happened in ME1. It happened in Star wars (both trilogies). It happened in Dragon Age. It happened in Lord of the Rings. It happens all over the place. That Harbinger brags like a comic book villian does not mean his actions don't entirely make sense in context, or that his arrogance is unwarranted. We can go on and on about how the reapers got downgraded, and I do hope not all the reapers in ME3 act like him, but there's no real giant plot hole here. Oh, and he actually killed the hero.[/quote]

Yeah, well there is a difference between a villlain making a mistake and a villain being a incompetent moron.
There is a difference between henchment faiiling and hte villain himself failing miserably. There is a difference between outside interferrance or thing the villain couldn't predict runing his plan, and massive, gaping flaws in the plan that are ignored.

And his "killing" of Sheppard? ZERO impact and signifiance in the plot/story.