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[Savber100]

Smudboy makes the occasional good point but he's way too dogmatic for him to even be considered a balanced critic.

Something in ME2 doesn't make sense for him? He'll instantly dismiss it as a plothole etc. Try to explain it to him? He'll just rehash the same bullcrap again and again to prove his point.

If he wants to be seen as balanced, he needs to do more than just criticize and bash. 

Modifié par Savber100, 28 août 2011 - 04:14 .

[Brenon Holmes]

Who is Smudboy?

[Shockwave81]

sbvera13 wrote...

Smudboy's were definately better done, and he's got a knack for identifying key plot ploints. He fails because he tries to breakdown each point, but doesn't discuss how they impact the story or make it bad. I agree heartily that killing shepard and resurrecting him was bad, but his reasoning overlooks the colossal flaw in that event: it was boring and didn't move the story. Technically jargon and wondering why he didn't burn up in the atmosphere don't matter when it really comes down to bad writing anyway.

squee's video was horrid and disorganized. He doesn't even start addressing the arguments until 5 minutes in, spending that time instead by telling everyone how annoyed he is that someone else was telling everyone how annoyed they were. He again didn't address the key issues, but instead of breaking down obnoxiously nitpicky points about ME2, he starts breaking down obnoxiously nitpicky points of Smudboy's vid.

The two are a perfectly matched pair, imo.

I completely agree with this.  Both Squee and Smud try too hard to be 'funny' and clever.  I would have preferred less try-hard Escapist rip off presentation, and more objectivity in both cases. 

[Brenon Holmes]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Who is Smudboy?

*Not sure if serious...*

:happy:

I'm trying really hard not to come off as a raging ****... and I don't really have anything to add to this particular discussion... sooo... pretend that was me biting my cheek and then smiling.

Crunching a lot right now, so my grumpy-meter is pegged... ahem... ignore me.

Modifié par Brenon Holmes, 28 août 2011 - 04:18 .

[Savber100]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Who is Smudboy?

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

Edit: Wait a second... I sense I just got trolled. 

Modifié par Savber100, 28 août 2011 - 04:18 .

[Someone With Mass]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Who is Smudboy?

Wow, seriously?

That's a surprise to me.



That's smudboy.

[Brenon Holmes]

Savber100 wrote...

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

I haven't actually watched them, mostly because of the reactions that most people seem to have to it... so I can guess what the content is probably like...

Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

[sbvera13]

Savber100 wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Who is Smudboy?

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

To be fair to the guy, he did identify a good number of points where the plot in ME2 failed badly (and it often did, even by TV-scifi standards).  However, he then loses it by nitpicking every detail and whining about them.  I obviously agree with his side, but his methods are horrible and his arguments hollow.

Edit: Wait a second... I sense I just got trolled. 

Wait... what? That wasn't serious?

[sbvera13]

Brenon Holmes wrote...
Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

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[Brenon Holmes]

I was going to leave it at that... but AwesomeEffect2 made me feel guilty... :innocent:

(Sorry!)

Modifié par Brenon Holmes, 28 août 2011 - 04:24 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

I haven't actually watched them, mostly because of the reactions that most people seem to have to it... so I can guess what the content is probably like...

Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

It...kind of is. But without the hilarious part.

[ThePwener]

This thread has officially achieved Joker status as it makes no ****ing sense at this point.

[Pacifien]

Brenon Holmes wrote...
Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

It's unabashedly a knockoff (or, to be kinder, inspired) by RedLetterMedia's review of The Phantom Menace without any sense of self-awareness that such a review can only be made by a serial killer.

What? I'm talking about RedLetterMedia.

[Leonia]

There's only one possible way to watch the prequels now. And.. honestly, I don't get the smudboy adoration/abherration that comes along with these forums. Why should any one fan's opinions be more important than any other's?

[shepskisaac]

The editing in the videos is great and makes them quite funny. Other than that, he's so butthurt over tiniest little detail of everything it makes me wonder why does he even bother with this franchise anymore if he doesn't like so many things about it?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 août 2011 - 04:33 .

[Leonia]

IsaacShep wrote...

The editing in the videos is great and makes them quite funny. Other than that, he's so butthurt over tiniest little detail of everything it makes me wonder why does he even bother with this franchise anymore if he doesn't like so many things about it?

That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Which applies to a broad amount of people beyond just one guy who makes YouTube videos. No one is forcing them to follow these games or these forums or this community or anything really. I really hate the expression "Deal with it" but sometimes it's warranted.

But alas those of us who actually want to be here and are passionate in a more positive way have to put up with this sort of ilk (or not, if they aren't on the forums and we choose to not watch their armchair developer analysis videos).

[Pacifien]

leonia42 wrote...
There's only one possible way to watch the prequels now. And.. honestly, I don't get the smudboy adoration/abherration that comes along with these forums. Why should any one fan's opinions be more important than any other's?

This is because the memory of the forums doesn't actually go back very far. If you were around when smudboy was around, you made your stance one way or the other then. Verbosity = import on forums.

[Esquin]

I have only one thing to say about Smudboy. Actually i'm going to end up saying like 3 things, but this started with every intention os saying just the 1 thing. So thats my story and i'm sticking to it.

He chooses to view several key elements as being nonsensical without giving any real explanation as to why. Except for his own opinions. This isn't how you review something. If you want to pick apart the plot of ME2 fine, go ahead. But do it properly. Shepard's death and resurrection served a purpose. This guy not understanding the importance of foreshadowing and symbolism doesn't make them any less valid.

Also, he constantly picks apart the lack of character development for Shepard. Sorry but no. Mass Effect is a true rpg, one where the main character is played by you. the feelings, thoughts, actions and motivations are based on your feelings. You can't develop a character in a game where the very nature of the gameplay means that every single persons character will be different on every level.

[ThePwener]

Smudboy may very well be the greatest BSN troll of all time. Years later, he isn't around (that we know of) and people keep tangling they're panties on his "videos".

I salute him.

Modifié par ThePwener, 28 août 2011 - 04:41 .

[LPPrince]

Okay, usually these Smudboy threads go to hell in a hand basket very quickly, and my question is always the same-

Smudboy was kicked out of here, correct?

So...why is he STILL TO THIS DAY TALKED ABOUT ON THE FORUMS!?

Good God, if I ever get kicked out of here I hope everyone would keep my name afloat. Jeezus.

[Reptillius]

Ok. now I think I've seen everything. We've actually been trolled by a Bioware employee on the Bioware forums purely at whim.

I think that just put Brenon up there with the evils that Chris has played on us. For good and for ill.

[LPPrince]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Who is Smudboy?

*Not sure if serious...*

:happy:

I'm trying really hard not to come off as a raging ****... and I don't really have anything to add to this particular discussion... sooo... pretend that was me biting my cheek and then smiling.

Crunching a lot right now, so my grumpy-meter is pegged... ahem... ignore me.

Brenon Holmes is to "Who is Smudboy" as LPPrince is to "Brent Holmes"

HAR HAR HAR

Modifié par LPPrince, 28 août 2011 - 04:46 .