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[Bismth]

you know smudboy isnt that good in bed

[111987]

100k wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Collectors wanted Shepard's body to study it for genetic abnormalities brought on by exposure to the Prothean Beacons and the Thorian. Admittedly the dialogue confirming this was cut, which makes no sense to me. It doesn't make it good writing, but if you are truly curious, that is why.

www.youtube.com/watch

The thing is, this could very well be brought up in Mass Effect 3. Not all questions are SUPPOSED to be answered in the second part of a trilogy. It could be very significant, which is why they cut that dialogue. Or maybe it's not. Either way, it's too early to judge. If they don't mention it in Mass Effect 3, then yes it is bad writing.

They didn't fly away as soon as he boarded because they had to powerup the ship again. I don't know what you mean by letting EDI form a bridge, so I can't discuss that...sorry.

For the love of all that is holy in this world...WHY did they take this dialogue out of the game? 

It really is mind-boggling. The only thing I can come up with is they have en even better reason they came up with that will be revealed in ME3. I hope I'm right...

[Nashiktal]

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

sp0ck 06 wrote...

The collector base was spectacular.  Even those who rag on ME2 usually concede that.

It was good.  If short.  The ending left a lot to be desired though.  Nothing more than an excuse for a boss fight.

This entire thread is worthless.  Smudboy is a punk...who spends that kind of time and energy devoting themselves to ripping plot hole in a video game, lol.  So you might convince a few forum goers you're some kind of internet god?  What a loser, I mean seriously.  We're all somewhat nerdish to even be here in the first place but that...good god.

Ah the eternal question:

Who's the bigger hater, the hater or the hater who hates the hater? 

You mean you weren't on the edge of your seat, hoping your crew live? Holding your breath as Jack/Samara or who hever was holding it up, the first time you played it?

Not really no. It was just to rushed to me, and way to little choices for me to feel that invested. By the time it was over, (Which I figured it was once we hit the hold the line area) I was like "wait... thats it? Thats the main plot?"

The game felt like a bunch of side quests, loosely, and I MEAN loosely tied together by a few main mission plots.The suicide mission was short, there was not enough tactical choices between squadmates, most of said squadmates were entirely useless except for a hidden and vague math equation near the end of the suicide mission (which you are never made aware of, nor even hinted at how these extra sqaudmates help, especially when loyal miranda can hold the line by herself.)

The few choices you are given, are incredibly easy to make, at least to me. Techy for the door, leader for the squad, strong biotic for the bubble. if I ever felt any tension, it was the occasional time I thought the squaddie I chose correctly bought the dust, until they shook off their bullets and continued on. Oh and whether or not they shook off the bullets depends on whether you fixed their mommy/daddy/puberty/childhood issues, even on the most profesional of characters. Loyalty was handled awkwardly in my opinion.

The suicide mission was great in concept, had a few good moments... but like many other aspects of ME2 felt stripped down, bare bones. I had fun while it lasted, but it was just missing way too much.

Don't get me wrong, ME2 had plenty of brightpoints, especially when it came to individual characters and their stories, but if we only praise the good the bad will never improve.

[FoxShadowblade]

Well, first I was going to keep an open mind, seeing as how I loved Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2...

Then he dissed Gears of War, and immediately went in the same group as "Halo 1 pistol is better than Reach's". Everything after that is standard "Mass Effect 1 is better because of [this] or [that]"

Clearly an attempt to get people mad and an overall failed duplicate of Spoony's "Final Fantasy VIII Review", though he did have some mildly funny parts, I doubt the video was made because he thinks this, just because he wanted more videos on his Youtube channel.

And so, epic fail.

[EDIT] And so to point out, mildly disinterested fan makes a anaylsis of a game. Someone finds it on the forum = argument. He finds it on the forum = get a few laughs. So..well done everyone.

Modifié par FoxShadowblade, 30 août 2011 - 07:17 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

111987 wrote...

In regards to the IFF, I assume you're saying they should have tested on something else first? I suppose they could have, but that wouldn't have really helped. It had to be installed on the Normandy eventually, and when that happened the Collectors would have come for them. The foolish thing wasn't that they didn't test the IFF on something else first; it's just a signal. It's not like it would have blown up the ship. The foolish thing was that they didn't 'scrub' it, which is mentioned explicitly in-game as an oversight.

Yes, they should have tested it on something else first. On a smaller scout ships, or heck - install it in a probe and send it trough the relay.
Once activated, it would send the siognal and the Collectors would arrive in the wrong place.

It is follish to put your vital resources in danger unnecesarily. Adn this wasn't necessary.

If the squad was on board the Normandy when the Collectors attacked, the squad would easily fought them off and thus there would be no sense of urgency to go through the Omega 4 Relay. In my opinion, that would weaken the story. You're right, there isn't an in game explanation for why the whole squad went on the shuttle for the mission.

In this case, gameplay should take precendence over story. Like I said before, your options are unrealistically get the squad off the Normandy for the IFF testing, or lose everyone but two people, which would make completeting the Suicide Mission impossible. Is it great writing to have the squad leave without an in-game explanation? Yes. Is the alternative any better? Not all.

Wrong. Gameplay should not take precedence over story. Gameplay should work WITH the story and vice-versa.
You can make it work and it has been made to work before. But it requires more effort and writing skill.

[Lotion Soronarr]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Well, first I was going to keep an open mind, seeing as how I loved Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2...

and you failed.:lol::lol:

[FoxShadowblade]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Well, first I was going to keep an open mind, seeing as how I loved Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2...

and you failed.:lol::lol:

Oh yes, I know. I also gave the reason why, he insulted my favorite game series.

Kind of like how he sits there and insults both Mass Effects.

Also, what is with the goddamn music?

And another also, ":lol::lol::lol:"? Your comment was so funny it deserved not one but four smileys? That must be the funniest comment ever. I'm impressed.

[Lotion Soronarr]

CantGettaLock wrote...

It's surprising to see just how many of you disagree with him. I thought his analysis was spot on, for the most part.

But he dared touch the sacred cow!
Blind fanboys must rush to it's defense, in defiance of all reason.

[Someone With Mass]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

But he dared touch the sacred cow!
Blind fanboys must rush to it's defense, in defiance of all reason.

It's funny, because it works both ways.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...



But he dared touch the sacred cow!
Blind fanboys must rush to it's defense, in defiance of all reason.

Sounds like you and Cerberus...


Admittedly a cheap shot,and I apoligize,but it had to be said.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 30 août 2011 - 07:39 .

[KotorEffect3]

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

[Lotion Soronarr]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Well, first I was going to keep an open mind, seeing as how I loved Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2...

and you failed.:lol::lol:

Oh yes, I know. I also gave the reason why, he insulted my favorite game series.

Kind of like how he sits there and insults both Mass Effects.

Also, what is with the goddamn music?

And another also, ":lol::lol::lol:"? Your comment was so funny it deserved not one but four smileys? That must be the funniest comment ever. I'm impressed.

So you admit you weren't opened minded? You think he insults ME because he's pointing out things it did bad?
And you hate him because of his choice of music?

Talk about butthurt.

Pointing out what's wrong IS the point of a open-minding critic. The goal is to see what worked well AND WHAT DIDN'T.
It's tragic that people can't distacne themselves from theri beloved series/book/game and judge it objectively.

One SHOULD be harsh critic - especially towards the thing one likes. Introspection/criticism is the key to further improvement. For every game/series I like, I can present to y you a detailed and long list of everything that's wrong with it - probably more things that you even though where there.
There is no shame in liking things that have flaws - even if they have many flaws. As long as you can go over those flaws or consider the good parts outweigh the bad, it's all good. But denying the flaws is just childish.

Which is exactly what the vast majority who attack smudboy are doing. Are they so insecure that they feel the need to justify their tastes to everyone?

[100k]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

You know, comments like that aren't adding anything to the thread.

Modifié par 100k, 30 août 2011 - 07:44 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

It's amazing how long someone on a high-horse who only respects their own opinion can drag on a thread....just look at Den of Delusions...

[Lotion Soronarr]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
But he dared touch the sacred cow!
Blind fanboys must rush to it's defense, in defiance of all reason.

Sounds like you and Cerberus...


Admittedly a cheap shot,and I apoligize,but it had to be said.

Which would be correct if  Iliked Cerberus or TIM. Or if I attempted to defend them regardelss of any logic.

However, sicne neither of the two are correct, your comparison falls flat.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

It's amazing how long someone on a high-horse who only respects their own opinion can drag on a thread....just look at Den of Delusions...

H_T, you're the last one to talk. 90% of your posts in any such discussion are nothing more that trolling and cheap jabs and accusation at the opponent.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 30 août 2011 - 07:47 .

[littlezack]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Which is exactly what the vast majority who attack smudboy are doing. Are they so insecure that they feel the need to justify their tastes to everyone?

Maybe they just hate the guy.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

It's amazing how long someone on a high-horse who only respects their own opinion can drag on a thread....just look at Den of Delusions...

H_T, you're the last one to talk. 90% of your posts in any such discussion are nothing more that trolling and cheap jabs and accusation at the opponent.

Never said it was you.
But this is getting off-topic.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 30 août 2011 - 07:51 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

It's amazing how long someone on a high-horse who only respects their own opinion can drag on a thread....just look at Den of Delusions...

That was completely unnecessary, don't you ever talk trash about my baby again. <_<

Also, the thing with Den is that the other side always sees you as stubborn and delusion as you see them, so from the other perspective you're dragging on the topic in the exact same way.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 30 août 2011 - 07:52 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And now the smugboy thread has generated 31 pages.

It's amazing how long someone on a high-horse who only respects their own opinion can drag on a thread....just look at Den of Delusions...

That was completely unnecessary, don't you ever talk trash about my baby again. <_<

Also, the thing with Den is that the other side always sees you as stubborn and delusion as you see them, so from the other perspective you're dragging on the topic in the exact same way.

The benefits of sitting on the fence...

Also lol at DoD being your baby.

[FoxShadowblade]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Well, first I was going to keep an open mind, seeing as how I loved Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2...

and you failed.:lol::lol:

Oh yes, I know. I also gave the reason why, he insulted my favorite game series.

Kind of like how he sits there and insults both Mass Effects.

Also, what is with the goddamn music?

And another also, ":lol::lol::lol:"? Your comment was so funny it deserved not one but four smileys? That must be the funniest comment ever. I'm impressed.

So you admit you weren't opened minded? You think he insults ME because he's pointing out things it did bad?
And you hate him because of his choice of music?

Talk about butthurt.

Pointing out what's wrong IS the point of a open-minding critic. The goal is to see what worked well AND WHAT DIDN'T.
It's tragic that people can't distacne themselves from theri beloved series/book/game and judge it objectively.

One SHOULD be harsh critic - especially towards the thing one likes. Introspection/criticism is the key to further improvement. For every game/series I like, I can present to y you a detailed and long list of everything that's wrong with it - probably more things that you even though where there.
There is no shame in liking things that have flaws - even if they have many flaws. As long as you can go over those flaws or consider the good parts outweigh the bad, it's all good. But denying the flaws is just childish.

Which is exactly what the vast majority who attack smudboy are doing. Are they so insecure that they feel the need to justify their tastes to everyone?

Oh I was, but then I wasn't. And yet I'm still watching them, despite the worst choice of music.

I never said I hate him because of his choice in music, I hate him because he doesn't point out what works, he just blatantly insults the game the whole way through, using wild assumptions as proof...which reminds me of the "We can't save earth" thread

In the words of the great Red Team Sarge: "Don't over analyze it, ya ****."

As for justifying my tastes? I don't need to, I like what I like, I dislike what I dislike. And I dislike him. Problem with that? Apparently so.  Do I deny that parts of ME2 didn't make much sense until my fifth playthrough, no. But after scouring every inch of lore I could find I understand it all and it all makes sense. His argument is that it doesn't make sense.

[Someone With Mass]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

So you admit you weren't opened minded? You think he insults ME because he's pointing out things it did bad?
And you hate him because of his choice of music?

Talk about butthurt.

Pointing out what's wrong IS the point of a open-minding critic. The goal is to see what worked well AND WHAT DIDN'T.
It's tragic that people can't distacne themselves from theri beloved series/book/game and judge it objectively.

One SHOULD be harsh critic - especially towards the thing one likes. Introspection/criticism is the key to further improvement. For every game/series I like, I can present to y you a detailed and long list of everything that's wrong with it - probably more things that you even though where there.
There is no shame in liking things that have flaws - even if they have many flaws. As long as you can go over those flaws or consider the good parts outweigh the bad, it's all good. But denying the flaws is just childish.

Which is exactly what the vast majority who attack smudboy are doing. Are they so insecure that they feel the need to justify their tastes to everyone?

So, it's okay for him to spew out garbage left and right, but the second someone questions/hates his work, it's wrong?

Because his videos have flaws in them too.

Too bad that he was always such an arrogant ****** to ever acknowledge or admit it.

An open-minded critic is also (or should be) open to criticism. Otherwise, there's really no point in posting a charade like that on YouTube.

[marstor05]

Thought it was funny. You dont have to agree with him. He makes some valid points in places, whereas he's just being a dick in others.

[Guldhun2]

Someone With Mass wrote...
So, it's okay for him to spew out garbage left and right, but the second someone questions/hates his work, it's wrong?

Because his videos have flaws in them too.

Too bad that he was always such an arrogant ****** to ever acknowledge or admit it.

An open-minded critic is also (or should be) open to criticism. Otherwise, there's really no point in posting a charade like that on YouTube.

Then point out those flaws. Instead of dismissing the entire video because you dislike his voice like some do.

[Lotion Soronarr]

littlezack wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Which is exactly what the vast majority who attack smudboy are doing. Are they so insecure that they feel the need to justify their tastes to everyone?

Maybe they just hate the guy.

And that is a poor reason to argue. If one shoudl argue, then it should be because of one is convinced in something and has argumetns to back it up. Arguing jsut out of spite is counter-productivee and petty.