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[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixer0,do you just disagree to disagree?

25 people would not fit in the biotic barrier,think man,think.

He's throwing out scatter-gun criticisms left and right. I think it's pretty clear some people are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing.

If they rewrote half  the stuff he complains about they would butcher the story and the whole game would be one giant ret-con...

[Guldhun2]

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

[Whatever42]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
If they rewrote half  the stuff he complains about they would butcher the story and the whole game would be one giant ret-con...

Actually, smud re-imagined the game and it was pretty wild. It would have made an awful, convoluted unplayable game but it pretty imaginative. 

[Whatever42]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's the logo of a legitimate cover company.

[Guldhun2]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's the logo of a legitimate cover company.

HAHAHAHA really? Hahahaha. Look at the first couple of seconds of this vid.

Modifié par Guldhun2, 31 août 2011 - 06:20 .

[100k]

Oh, here's something I always wondered. Will we be able to carry guns within the same class in a different way? For instance, noticed that the Locust SMG has a hand grip for extra accuracy -- while the Tempest doesn't.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

100k wrote...

Oh, here's something I always wondered. Will we be able to carry guns within the same class in a different way? For instance, noticed that the Locust SMG has a hand grip for extra accuracy -- while the Tempest doesn't.

This isn't really on topic,but no you hold SMGs the same way,if you watch any of the videos he uses the Locust and it still gets held the same way.

[100k]

Wow. I posted this question in the wrong thread. Sorry. Shows where my mind is.

[dreman9999]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's not a cerberus logo...It's a Cord-Hislop Aerospace logo....

http://masseffect.wi...islop_Aerospace

[Guldhun2]

dreman9999 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's not a cerberus logo...It's a Cord-Hislop Aerospace logo....

http://masseffect.wi...islop_Aerospace

Then how come EVERYONE who notices that logo goes ape***?

[littlezack]

Everyone like who? Except for people like Jack who have enough experience with Cerberus to know better, no one really acknowledges it.

[Guldhun2]

littlezack wrote...

Everyone like who? Except for people like Jack who have enough experience with Cerberus to know better, no one really acknowledges it.

Check the vid i posted.

[Sgt Stryker]

Guldhun2 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's not a cerberus logo...It's a Cord-Hislop Aerospace logo....

http://masseffect.wi...islop_Aerospace

Then how come EVERYONE who notices that logo goes ape***?

By everyone you really mean Tali and Jack. How come no one goes ape**** when the SR2 docks with the Citadel or Illium, in that case?

Regarding the Cerberus/Cord-Hislop Corp. symbol confusion: This is one of the problems with a cross-media franchise. I believe the writers had intended for a lot of fans to go further besides playing the games, and look at the universe as a whole through the novels and comic books. Judging by the amount of confusion on this board alone, that clearly did not go as well as they had intended. Honestly, I would have done away with the symbol altogether, but I guess BW felt it was necessary to make sure that even the Lowest Common Denominator player remembered what organization they were working with.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 31 août 2011 - 06:43 .

[Whatever42]

Guldhun2 wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Everyone like who? Except for people like Jack who have enough experience with Cerberus to know better, no one really acknowledges it.

Check the vid i posted.

A Quarian commando unit led by a high-ranking Quarian from a flotilla that has been recently attacked by Cerberus operatives might have intel on Cerberus, I admit.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixer0,do you just disagree to disagree?

25 people would not fit in the biotic barrier,think man,think.

He's throwing out scatter-gun criticisms left and right. I think it's pretty clear some people are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing.

That, and/or they've settled into this silly notion that everything in ME2 is wrong and they're never changing their minds and never changing their arguments and never listening to any counterpoints.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's not a cerberus logo...It's a Cord-Hislop Aerospace logo....

http://masseffect.wi...islop_Aerospace

Then how come EVERYONE who notices that logo goes ape***?

By everyone you really mean Tali and Jack. How come no one goes ape**** when the SR2 docks with the Citadel or Illium, in that case?

Regarding the Cerberus/Cord-Hislop Corp. symbol confusion: This is one of the problems with a cross-media franchise. I believe the writers had intended for a lot of fans to go further besides playing the games, and look at the universe as a whole through the novels and comic books. Judging by the amount of confusion on this board alone, that clearly did not go as well as they had intended. Honestly, I would have done away with the symbol altogether, but I guess BW felt it was necessary to make sure that even the Lowest Common Denominator player remembered what organization they were working with.

I for one don't bother with "extended media" for video games, as 95% of it turns out to be absolute drek.

[Sgt Stryker]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I for one don't bother with "extended media" for video games, as 95% of it turns out to be absolute drek.

Can't blame ya there!

[dreman9999]

Guldhun2 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

Are some people saying that Cerberus is a covert group? Hahahaha.

THEY PAINT THEIR LOGO ON EVERYTHING. How covert is that?

That's not a cerberus logo...It's a Cord-Hislop Aerospace logo....

http://masseffect.wi...islop_Aerospace

Then how come EVERYONE who notices that logo goes ape***?

Only Jack does....And She has a history with cerberus to know on of their fronts.

[Fixers0]

dreman9999 wrote...

That's not a cerberus logo...It's a [b]Cord-Hislop Aerospace logo....

The codex proves you false.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Fixers0 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
[img]Don't Miranda or Jacob fail if you use them for that assignment, getting at least one of the team killed?

They managed to hold out until the last 5 meter or so, the loss of one Solider is acceptable.

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Because 25 heavily armed men with links to a feared and hated terrorist organization wouldn't be allowed to operate in many places?

Such as?

Because 25 people don't fit where 3 people do? Because they might not have the skills that Shep and his squad do?

Where exactly?

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Most of it.

Shooting a gun at people?

1.  Failing in the last five meters is still failing.  Losing soldiers needlessly is a waste. 
2.  Play the game and pay attention.  There are plenty of places where trying to cram 25+ soliders in would be a mistake.
3.  Recruiting most of the necessary team.  Recognizing Prothean and Reaper artifacts and evidence.  Combining combat prowess with exceptional technical ability.  


Who did the US send to get Bin Laden?  300 men from the Idaho National Guard, or a small, tight group from the most skilled and competent special forces unit in the world? 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 31 août 2011 - 06:56 .

[Fixers0]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
1. Failing in the last five meters is still failing. Losing soldiers needlessly is a waste.

Why exactly? as said one soldier an accaptable loss, it's Cerberus right.

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
2. Play the game and pay attention. There are plenty of places where trying to cram 25+ soliders in would be a mistake.

But not in the main plot, if you allready have a team of 20-25 highly trained and loyal soldiers, you would't need to take a skycab on illium

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
3. Recruiting most of the necessary team. Recognizing Prothean and Reaper artifacts and evidence. Combining combat prowess with exceptional technical ability.

Again if you allready got a team, which goal is to stop the collectors, only Mordin is really neccesary for the seeker swarm plot device

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Who did the US send to get Bin Laden? 300 men from the Idaho National Guard, or a small, tight group from the most skilled and competent special forces unit in the world?

Seeing as you are just comparing these two cases i think that you are totally missing the point, it also good to see that you know all details about the assanination of Bin Laden.

Modifié par Fixers0, 31 août 2011 - 07:06 .

[111987]

Fixers0 wrote...

111987 wrote...

He prepared against the enemy by ressurecting the one person with the ability, experience, symbolism, and connections needed to defeat the Reapers.

Does he now, were did you get that wisdom.

Mass effect 2 proved that Shepard is completly replaceable, because he was just doing a generic soldier job, at no point is anything you mentioned relevant

I would really like to see How Mass Effect 3 deals with this issue.

How is it not relevant? I can think of several cases where its not only relevant, but of paramount importance.

Tuchanka: 'Any other alien would have been blasted out of sky'. Shepard, due to his connection to Wrex (whether or not Wrex is alive or not) is the ONLY thing that allowed him to land. If it was some generic soldier, that soldier would have died right then and there. Not only that, but Maelon would have cured the genophage for Clan Weryloc, and their plans didn't sound very conducive for uniting the galaxy against the Reapers.

Heretic Geth: Legion would not have been searching for a generic soldier; only Shepard, due to his accomplishments. Therefore, Legion would have been unable to prevent the Heretics from unleashing their virus, thus turning all Geth into servants of the Reapers. Once again, only Shepard could have prevented this.

Quarians: Tali would not have joined Cerberus for any reason, other than Shepard. Therefore, there would be no link to the Quarians, who have the biggest fleet in the galaxy.

[Fixers0]

111987 wrote...

How is it not relevant? I can think of several cases where its not only relevant, but of paramount importance.

Tuchanka: 'Any other alien would have been blasted out of sky'. Shepard, due to his connection to Wrex (whether or not Wrex is alive or not) is the ONLY thing that allowed him to land. If it was some generic soldier, that soldier would have died right then and there. Not only that, but Maelon would have cured the genophage for Clan Weryloc, and their plans didn't sound very conducive for uniting the galaxy against the Reapers.

Heretic Geth: Legion would not have been searching for a generic soldier; only Shepard, due to his accomplishments. Therefore, Legion would have been unable to prevent the Heretics from unleashing their virus, thus turning all Geth into servants of the Reapers. Once again, only Shepard could have prevented this.

Quarians: Tali would not have joined Cerberus for any reason, other than Shepard. Therefore, there would be no link to the Quarians, who have the biggest fleet in the galaxy.

I can't help to say that is all optional content, and that it isn't in the main plot, and that by no way the plot of Mass Effect 2 would have been affected, which is where this discussion is all about.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I almost puked when I read Fixers0's last comment about where 25 people would go. How can you complain about plot-holes and ret-con if you don't even know the game?

Are you even talking about ME2?

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 août 2011 - 07:18 .