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[100k]

Balek-Vriege wrote...The Paragon/Investigation options (which questions Miranda's trustworthyness ) explain better why Wilson may have been a traitor and why Miranda isn't or couldn't be via common sense.  Again though, Smudboy "failed" to mention that in his video.

Uh...the Paragon option has Shepard saying "If you say so", and the neural option has Shepard saying something like "we should get moving".

Neither of these responses is organic for the situation (a woman gunning down one of the people who revived you), for the blocking (Shepard suspiciously pointing a gun at Miranda's head), or for the paragon/renegade behaviour (shouldn't the paragon be suspicious and worried?).

[Nashiktal]

Although smudboy did seem to have an attitude problem on the forums, I have to say that once you get past the abrasiveness that he really does have some insightful things to say about mass effect.

I am serious here. I have went though all of his analysis videos, and enjoyed them. Most of his jokes against mass effect are in good humor, and he gives credit where credit is due storywise, but he does not hold back on his criticism.

Give his videos a chance, if nothing else you see his though process better.

[Balek-Vriege]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

In one of the videos he claims that the omni-blade "does nothing."  We know that that's not true.

Go on. Anything else you can add?

I agree that it's a stupid argument but he was right. The omni-blade did nothing in that scene.

And if you spend your time around Youtube you will see how people are b!tching about all the bugs and glitches, especially because of what they've shown recently at PAX. "The omni-blade stabs floors, not people!"

Game is months away from release.  The event actally helps Bioware see these problems so they can fix it way before release.  I don't see how bugs pre-release make the Omniblade meaningless and wrong.  Points without an actual point you could say.

Unless of course the third video is just tongue and cheek as Saphra suggested, which I could see.  It still has a strong negative connontation to it.

[Biotic Sage]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

In one of the videos he claims that the omni-blade "does nothing."  We know that that's not true.

Go on. Anything else you can add?

I agree that it's a stupid argument but he was right. The omni-blade did nothing in that scene.

And if you spend your time around Youtube you will see how people are b!tching about all the bugs and glitches, especially because of what they've shown recently at PAX. "The omni-blade stabs floors, not people!"

I just think it's a waste of time and a cheap shot to criticize what is obviously a bug in a demo of game that is still in development.  We all know that the omni-blade causes damage.  Plus that response of mine was meant only to act as counter-evidence to who I was responding to.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 28 août 2011 - 06:03 .

[Biotic Sage]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

Game is months away from release.  The event actally helps Bioware see these problems so they can fix it way before release.  I don't see how bugs pre-release make the Omniblade meaningless and wrong.  Points without an actual point you could say.

Unless of course the third video is just tongue and cheek as Saphra suggested, which I could see.  It still has a strong negative connontation to it.

Haha you beat me to it. 

[Balek-Vriege]

100k wrote...

Balek-Vriege wrote...The Paragon/Investigation options (which questions Miranda's trustworthyness ) explain better why Wilson may have been a traitor and why Miranda isn't or couldn't be via common sense.  Again though, Smudboy "failed" to mention that in his video.

Uh...the Paragon option has Shepard saying "If you say so", and the neural option has Shepard saying something like "we should get moving".

Neither of these responses is organic for the situation (a woman gunning down one of the people who revived you), for the blocking (Shepard suspiciously pointing a gun at Miranda's head), or for the paragon/renegade behaviour (shouldn't the paragon be suspicious and worried?).

You missed the investigation options that follow that little dialogue where Shepard actually does question Miranda.  Not to mention right after Wilson gets shot, Shepard is holding a gun to Miranda's head.  Not exactly trusting...


You can't choose not to pull a gun on her, which is in fact the wise thing to do if she just shot Wilson.  Then as she semi-explains her actions and seems completely unhostile by this point, you let your guard down.  Not to mention the data logs and the events before meeting her kind of point towards him regardless.  Then you have the option to question Miranda about where she was in all of this.  She explains herself further and Jacob also makes a common sense assessment as to why Wilson is the traitor.  Then if you still don't trust her you can investigate what would happen if you wanted to stay on the Station.  She will reply that you will probably be overwhelmed by hacked mechs.  When you want to go back for others, she insists that you're the only important person on the station.  All of that was left out of Smud's video.

When you take all that in, the Wilson/Miranda plot doesn't seem oversimplfied where Bioware writers completely overlooked realistic outcomes and suspicion.  You can choose not to ask those questions, but by doing that you're choosing for your Shepard not to be inquisitive about the whole situation.  That's the decision of the player, not writers.

[Janus Prospero]

Smudboy is obviously an intelligent guy, but he's also a cynical ****.

While he does have some valid points, most of it gets lost in all the pointless nitpicking it does. He tries way too hard and digs way too deep to find stuff to complain about. And again, some of those complaints have merit, but some of them can easily be explained with suspension of disbelief, logic, or just plain common sense. A movie/book/game doesn't have to explain every single detail of the universe. A lot of the time its up to the user to fill in the blanks. Some of his complaints are actually explained within the game itself, but I guess he just missed those parts.

Criticizing the damage that the omniblade does in a test build of the game is retarded beyond belief. At E3 the Kinect Demo and the Sur'Kesh Demo were actually 2 seperate programs on Bioware's demo disc. The omniblade clip smudboy showed was from the Kinect demo. There's a good chance that the omniblade wasn't tuned properly in that build, because every other time I've seen it used the people that get hit go down.

Frankly the hours and hours of time he spends analyzing and criticizing Mass Effect 1 & 2 just proves how much he actually loves them.

Modifié par Janus Prospero, 28 août 2011 - 06:15 .

[Homebound]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

I haven't actually watched them, mostly because of the reactions that most people seem to have to it... so I can guess what the content is probably like...

Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

what a unique opportunity for a counter-arguement. i hope u do watch it. tell us what u think.

[CroGamer002]

Oh God, this sh*t again.

[The Fan]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Sometimes I can't make it 30 seconds into a smudboy video.

I hear that.

[Sheepie Crusher]

MrDizaztar wrote...

That pretty much sums this thread up

[VaultingFrog]

So why am I supposed to care about a review again? Its not my opinion of things so why the hell would I care about it?

[Iakus]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

I haven't actually watched them, mostly because of the reactions that most people seem to have to it... so I can guess what the content is probably like...

Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

Smudboy is definitely not for everybody.  He's not subtle, gets caught up in minutia, and alas too often allowed himself to be baited by his" less than mature" detractors.  But he's raised good points.  He backs up his assertions, he's not afraid to speak his mind.  Just because he 'nit-picks" doesn't invalidate the major issues he has.  Being arrogant doesn't make one wrong.  

I think the youtube video approach is a good move on his part.  He can show people exactly what problems he has with a storyline.  He doesn't get sidetracked by hecklers. And people who hear "Mass Effect 2 was a terrible sequel" and start raging can simply stop listening and go posting insults about him on in Internet forum. Everybody wins. 

[atheelogos]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Someone needs to euthanize Smudbody.

..........

[atheelogos]

iakus wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

I haven't actually watched them, mostly because of the reactions that most people seem to have to it... so I can guess what the content is probably like...

Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

Smudboy is definitely not for everybody.  He's not subtle, gets caught up in minutia, and alas too often allowed himself to be baited by his" less than mature" detractors.  But he's raised good points.  He backs up his assertions, he's not afraid to speak his mind.  Just because he 'nit-picks" doesn't invalidate the major issues he has.  Being arrogant doesn't make one wrong.  

I think the youtube video approach is a good move on his part.  He can show people exactly what problems he has with a storyline.  He doesn't get sidetracked by hecklers. And people who hear "Mass Effect 2 was a terrible sequel" and start raging can simply stop listening and go posting insults about him on in Internet forum. Everybody wins. 

all good points

[Mike2640]

While I usually find smudboy makes very good points, I think it's a bit too early to be criticizing Mass Effect 3, and this one comes off as a bit too over the top for my tastes.

[MDT1]

Smudboy's one of those critics who developed thier own ideas and explanations of Mass Effect and now check the original game versus this ideas. Thats why he finds so many "plotholes".
Just because your first explanation doesn't fit in the end doesn't mean there aren't others that fit.

[Gabey5]

Mr nitpicker? Didn't Squee destroy most of his points already?

This is a videogame sci fi , some people tend to forget that and push real world science or issues.


seriously he was raging at how shepard could survive going in to a planets atmosphere

again it is science FICTION!

FICTION

a magical world where anything can happen. It is like when star wars  fans debate the possibility of hyperdrive when when you have guys with super powers and a laser sword with an unlimited power supply

k?

k

Modifié par Gabey5, 28 août 2011 - 08:10 .

[atheelogos]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

A Youtube commentator that made it his mission to nitpick every SINGLE bloody flaw in a Bioware story. You should get Mac Walters to check him out. He makes several valid points concerning plotholes in ME2 but he generally ends up coming across as criticizing just for the sake of nitpicking. 

I haven't actually watched them, mostly because of the reactions that most people seem to have to it... so I can guess what the content is probably like...

Now if it was like RedLetterMedia's Star Wars stuff... I'd probably totally watch it. :happy:

'Cuz that **** is hillarious.

Most of the people here overreact to his content. He makes some pretty good points. You should watch them and judge for yourself. 

[atheelogos]

Gabey5 wrote...

Mr nitpicker? Didn't Squee destroy most of his points already?

This is a videogame sci fi , some people tend to forget that and push real world science or issues.


seriously he was raging at how shepard could survive going in to a planets atmosphere

again it is science FICTION!

actually awhile back everyone was "raging" over that... and to this day sheps death and rebuilding doesn't make sense.

[VeR0se]

This guy is an idiot, Squee shut him down pretty nicely. Hopefully smud will take the hint and stop making terrible videos that make no sense in a game developer's eyes. *sigh*

[atheelogos]

VeR0se wrote...
 Squee shut him down pretty nicely.

not really, but that's just my opinion