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[dreman9999]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Upgraded WHAT? Armor?

What you say is perfectly disputable. Heck, what you just said doesn't even make sense....

Keep digging yourself in deeper man. Keep diggin.

It's like you never played the game....http://masseffect.wi...y_SR-2#Armament

Asari-designed Silaris heavy ship armor can be refitted to the hull of the ship, improving its survivability in combat (Upgrade, Cost: 15,000 Palladium). The armor can resist even the tremendous heat and kinetic energy of starship weapons. The armor is nearly unsurpassed in strength because its central material, carbon nanotube sheets woven with diamond Chemical Vapor Deposition, are crushed by mass effect fields into super-dense layers able to withstand extreme temperatures. That process also compensates for diamond's brittleness.

[111987]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Upgraded WHAT? Armor?

What you say is perfectly disputable. Heck, what you just said doesn't even make sense....

Keep digging yourself in deeper man. Keep diggin.

Now you're just being difficult. EDI clearly references kinetic barriers, to which Joker says 'good thing we upgraded'.

[Lotion Soronarr]

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...
You really think the Council or Alliance would give you ships based off of a few seconds of footage of a bunch of wrecked ships? That is absurd. If they won't even acknowledge the existence of the Reapers, despite fighting one, you truly believe they would give Shepard and by extension Cerberus, ships?

Come on.

Eh?
Sicne when does sending several ships to assault the collectors equals to handing those ships over to Cerberus?

And why wouldn't they send ships with Shep? The benefits of studying all those wrecked ships alone would be huge.

Would those ships be working with Cerberus? Yes. Therefore the Alliance and Council wouldn't do it. The best they could do for Shepard, their most trusted agent whom they owe a personal debt to, was to give him a meaningless title. Actively supporting Shepard with ships and the like would be totally out of character, and bad writing.

They'd be workign with Sheppard.
And you can't say what the Council or especially the Alliance would do - especialyl when presented with new information and potential greater benefits.

[Notlikeyoucare]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Are you seriously suggesting there are no tactics for engaging multiple hostiles, and that being forewarned about said hostiles would not help any?

I do not mean to insult, but I can see why you would want to jump in blind now. There are tactics and procedures for almost any known scenario in the military, the trick is know the situation to use said tactics.

You can use tactics in the heat of the battle, but I think the military would agree that it's best to know about the sniper before engaging, rather than engaging after a soldier was terminated by said sniper.

I understand that. I would what to know more about any enemy,too. But from what we know about the collectors, trying to get that info would be too risky. The only other plan would to get more nomadies at the SR-2's Level  and a crew at the current sr-2's level but that will take time. The reaper would of invaded by that time. Their is a saying striking first is key to winnig a battle. Striking to egerly maybe a key of destruction as well but the sr-2 is already up to the challage with the upgrade. Sometimes risk are nessary and a key to winning battles. A balance game.
Form what I see it, with the collects sensor abilities, it's too risk to map out  in detail with probes. It better to jump to a risk and surpise them. They may know weare attacking but they don't know  the landing zone. The would be the gap to geting though.

Rubbish.
How the hell do you know it would be too risky? On what do you base that?

And no, what you say is not the ONLY other plan. The greatest value of information is that tehy grant you options.

Unnecessary risks are always stupid. Charging the relay was NOT NECESSARY.

It was however extremely contrived and neccessary by the plot.

[Lotion Soronarr]

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Upgraded WHAT? Armor?

What you say is perfectly disputable. Heck, what you just said doesn't even make sense....

Keep digging yourself in deeper man. Keep diggin.

Now you're just being difficult. EDI clearly references kinetic barriers, to which Joker says 'good thing we upgraded'.

And oyu're bing stupid.
EDI references Kinetic barreirs, Joker does not. If the kinetic barriers were not designs to stop debris, then why would she even mention it?
The exhange doesn't make sense in that context. Unless Joker meant something else...like armor or engines.

Not to mention that the Normandy STILL get's hit by debris and crashes later....

[dreman9999]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

100k wrote...
You're going in circles. Just stop. Recon > improve attack. It has been key to just about every war in history -- not just of humans, but of all of the races. Every time. End of discussion.

What are you talking about? What is key? I understand mapping out an area of attack is important but not when the enemy know you are attacking and the combat streghtis so unbalance.  If a small man  face a big manwith both of them not knowing the other stregthd, taking time to read the big man s weaknesses will only give the big man time to over power the small man. It's better for the small weaker man to surprise the big stronger man so he can land a strong critcal hit to give the small man and advatage to win the fight.
All though "probes"would do is tell the collectors the margin of error for drift for any one entering the relay to their location. The colllectors would just place attack prode/sdroid(swhat ever) in the location the  probes land in mass so that when the normady finally arrives they are ready to blast it to hell.
You tactic is only good with enemies on equal ground, not one with off balanced odds. If the probes could get in with out the collectors knowing it would be a good plan, but they detect anything that enters, so it would never work and risk the ship to much.

If you don't even know the balance of combat strength, WHY ARE YOU EVEN ATTACKING?
Sending forces into the unknwon - unnecessarily I might add - cannot be considered smart in any way, shape or form. It is the pinnacle of stupidity.

Afraid Colelctors would discover the probe? If  the oppoistion is light, jump the normandy right after that. No time for hte collectors to set up traps. If hte opposition is heavy, then trap the Collectors where they are. Blockade the Omega 4 relay. Put a minefield. Blow it up.

Information gives you OPTIONS. Informations gives you understanding.
Only a moron goes in guns blazing.

Here's the thing about my point. Trying to know the combat streght with bite us in the end. Why? because they can know our landing point, and when we attack..
Also, is impossible to blockade the relay. The collector would just blow through  the mines and destroy any ship patrolling the area. They out way use that much in combate streght and tech that ours can't stop them unless we directly attack them. You forgeting we are fighting an enemy that we base all are tech off from, the reapers and that tech is used by the collectors. We can't hold them back withwhat we have now.

[111987]

100k wrote...

111987 wrote...
I am forced to use the same points because they are not being countered. I assure you, I am not ignoring any points.

How would the knowledge of wreckage helps us plan? Our kinetic barriers protect against the debris, so nothing about the plan would change.

No. They. Don't. Kinetic barriers CANNOT protect anyone from slow moving attacks. Its why melee works in ME. It's why Shepard can sit in a chair while his shields are active. You don't understand the in-game content.

What is your confusion about the probes and kinetic barriers point? Is it common knowledge that probes do have kinetic barriers? Please explain what I am missing here.

How do you know that probes can't have kinetic barriers? A small organic life form like a human can, so why not a probe? Especially when, in your next point, you agree that QE tech could be put on a probe?

There is no proof the superstructure on Ploba was created by the Reapers. That is a moot point as there is no evidence suggesting their involvment.

If it wasn't created by the Reapers, then who? Another younger race? That only helps my point, because it meant that the Reapers were stronger than that race -- thus Reaper tech > planet sized supercomputers. 

The Reapers, I say again, are not gods. Their greatest known achievement is the construction of a 44 kilometer space station. That is nothing compared to constructing a planet.

Actually their greatest creations were the mass relays which they built millions of years ago.  Don't undermine their power.

That is ridiculous. The Collectors were harvesting humans for the Reapers, so they were doing their dirty work for them. If there were millions of Collectors, they would have abducted Earth. The Reapers then could have wiped out the rest of the organic species in the galaxy. What is so hard to understand about this? If there was a planet's worth of Collectors, why wouldn't the Reapers use them to their fullest potential?

They could abduct every human in the Terminus, and not have enough to fill these pods!

They're going to target Earth! 

We don't know if probes have kinetic barriers or not. The burden of proof is on you though.

If a race dedicates all of its resources to solely developing a super structure like that, and places little to know emphasis on military matters, them being wiped out by the Reapers doesn't mean the Reapers can do anything that race can. Using an example from Halo, just because the Flood wiped out the Forerunner (well technically 'were on the verge of wiping out the Forerunner) doesn't mean the Flood could create the Halo's.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I meant by greatest achievement, is greatest sized achievement. This was in response to your claims of Reapers being able to create planets.

The comment of some random, uninformed squad member proves what exactly? You have still been unable to counter my point that if there were millions of Collectors, they would have attacked Earth. If there were millions of Collectors, why alert humans at all of the Collector's plans by abducting simple colonies? Why wouldn't they just harvest all of Earth in a single surprise attack?

Maybe because there weren't millions of Collectors?

Modifié par 111987, 01 septembre 2011 - 06:58 .

[111987]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...
You really think the Council or Alliance would give you ships based off of a few seconds of footage of a bunch of wrecked ships? That is absurd. If they won't even acknowledge the existence of the Reapers, despite fighting one, you truly believe they would give Shepard and by extension Cerberus, ships?

Come on.

Eh?
Sicne when does sending several ships to assault the collectors equals to handing those ships over to Cerberus?

And why wouldn't they send ships with Shep? The benefits of studying all those wrecked ships alone would be huge.

Would those ships be working with Cerberus? Yes. Therefore the Alliance and Council wouldn't do it. The best they could do for Shepard, their most trusted agent whom they owe a personal debt to, was to give him a meaningless title. Actively supporting Shepard with ships and the like would be totally out of character, and bad writing.

They'd be workign with Sheppard.
And you can't say what the Council or especially the Alliance would do - especialyl when presented with new information and potential greater benefits.

Shepard works for Cerberus, therefore they would be working with Cerberus.

If I can't say what the Council or Alliance would do, neither can you.

[111987]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Upgraded WHAT? Armor?

What you say is perfectly disputable. Heck, what you just said doesn't even make sense....

Keep digging yourself in deeper man. Keep diggin.

Now you're just being difficult. EDI clearly references kinetic barriers, to which Joker says 'good thing we upgraded'.

And oyu're bing stupid.
EDI references Kinetic barreirs, Joker does not. If the kinetic barriers were not designs to stop debris, then why would she even mention it?
The exhange doesn't make sense in that context. Unless Joker meant something else...like armor or engines.

Not to mention that the Normandy STILL get's hit by debris and crashes later....

How am I being stupid?

EDI: Our kinetic barriers are not designed to survive impact of debris...THAT SIZE, Jeff.

Joker: Then it's a good thing we upgraded!

The kinetic barriers, after going through the debris field, go from 40% capacity to 30% capacity.

This really isn't hard to understand.

[dreman9999]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...
You really think the Council or Alliance would give you ships based off of a few seconds of footage of a bunch of wrecked ships? That is absurd. If they won't even acknowledge the existence of the Reapers, despite fighting one, you truly believe they would give Shepard and by extension Cerberus, ships?

Come on.

Eh?
Sicne when does sending several ships to assault the collectors equals to handing those ships over to Cerberus?

And why wouldn't they send ships with Shep? The benefits of studying all those wrecked ships alone would be huge.

Would those ships be working with Cerberus? Yes. Therefore the Alliance and Council wouldn't do it. The best they could do for Shepard, their most trusted agent whom they owe a personal debt to, was to give him a meaningless title. Actively supporting Shepard with ships and the like would be totally out of character, and bad writing.

They'd be workign with Sheppard.
And you can't say what the Council or especially the Alliance would do - especialyl when presented with new information and potential greater benefits.

Easy, because they can sense are best stelth equipment. And every probe sent it can tell them where we are coming in. If they can sense the probe we send in and see the margin of error of a landing zone then they are going to know where they can set a trap. They would destory ever probe we seen before the probe see too much. Then just wait hidden at the calclated landing area for the normady to land. One the normdy comes in, they all attck at al angle at once.

[dreman9999]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Upgraded WHAT? Armor?

What you say is perfectly disputable. Heck, what you just said doesn't even make sense....

Keep digging yourself in deeper man. Keep diggin.

Now you're just being difficult. EDI clearly references kinetic barriers, to which Joker says 'good thing we upgraded'.

And oyu're bing stupid.
EDI references Kinetic barreirs, Joker does not. If the kinetic barriers were not designs to stop debris, then why would she even mention it?
The exhange doesn't make sense in that context. Unless Joker meant something else...like armor or engines.

Not to mention that the Normandy STILL get's hit by debris and crashes later....

Who cars about who said what.
The tell you in the codex..http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Normandy_SR-2#Armament

Multicore shielding utilizing Cyclonic Barrier Technology (CBT) can be refitted to the Normandy SR-2 (Upgrade, Cost: 15,000 Palladium). The CBT violently slaps aside rather than halting incoming linear force. By rotationally firing their mass effect field projectors, the ship creates rapidly oscillating kinetic barriers instead of static ones. Shooting through the CBT is like trying to shoot at a target inside a spinning ball. If an emitter is damaged, the CBT corrects to become a traditional shield array, a safety feature that makes it most effective during opening volleys.

And show you in the suicide mission.
It's like you neverplayed the game.

Also, the ship crashes because they were hit with the shock wave from the collector ship took out the ship sensors. the Debrie your talking about is just part of the collector base.

Modifié par dreman9999, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:12 .

[Someone With Mass]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
AHEM..kinetic barriers work only againt small object traveling at extreeme velocities.......

These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid
velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous
projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away
their chair.

I guess you can't read.

Those kind of shields aren't meant for use by soldiers. They're meant for starships.  

They can still track projectiles like normal shields and react accordingly.

[Someone With Mass]

111987 wrote...

The Thanix Cannon is the most powerful weapon a ship the size of a Normandy can have. They can't install a dreadnaught sized, 1000km gun onto the Normandy...

You really think the Council or Alliance would give you ships based off of a few seconds of footage of a bunch of wrecked ships? That is absurd. If they won't even acknowledge the existence of the Reapers, despite fighting one, you truly believe they would give Shepard and by extension Cerberus, ships?

Come on.

Also, the Council and the Alliance aren't allowed to send fleets into the Terminus systems.

[Notlikeyoucare]

Kinectic Barries don't protect against large slow moving objects. EDI's statement supports what hes saying. Being THAT SIZE. The Normandy survives the debris field but gets knocked out of the sky by a fly piece of debris from the Collector ship upgraded or not.

The secret word of the day is C O N T R I V E D.

This isn't really hard to understand.

Modifié par Notlikeyoucare, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:12 .

[111987]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Kinectic Barries don't protect against large slow moving objects. EDI's statement supports what hes saying. Being THAT SIZE. The Normandy survives the debris field but gets knocked out of the sky by a fly piece of debris from the Collector ship upgraded or not.

The secret word of the day is C O N T R I V E D.

This really hard to understand.

Actually, EDI's statement supports the idea that standard kinetic barriers aren't designed to survive an impact with a piece of debris a certain size. Her statement does not support the idea that a kinetic barrier cannot survive an impact with any piece of debris.

[dreman9999]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Kinectic Barries don't protect against large slow moving objects. EDI's statement supports what hes saying. Being THAT SIZE. The Normandy survives the debris field but gets knocked out of the sky by a fly piece of debris from the Collector ship upgraded or not.

The secret word of the day is C O N T R I V E D.

This isn't really hard to understand.

How can people miss me posting this.

http://masseffect.wi...y_SR-2#Armament

Multicore shielding utilizing Cyclonic Barrier Technology (CBT) can be refitted to the Normandy SR-2 (Upgrade, Cost: 15,000 Palladium). The CBT violently slaps aside rather than halting incoming linear force. By rotationally firing their mass effect field projectors, the ship creates rapidly oscillating kinetic barriers instead of static ones. Shooting through the CBT is like trying to shoot at a target inside a spinning ball. If an emitter is damaged, the CBT corrects to become a traditional shield array, a safety feature that makes it most effective during opening volleys.

[Notlikeyoucare]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
AHEM..kinetic barriers work only againt small object traveling at extreeme velocities.......

These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid
velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous
projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away
their chair.

I guess you can't read.

Those kind of shields aren't meant for use by soldiers. They're meant for starships.  

They can still track projectiles like normal shields and react accordingly.

"Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same."


I guess you can't read.

Modifié par Notlikeyoucare, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:18 .

[dreman9999]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1.Becoming a spectre is unique in itself let alone being a first of a speices.
2.That's the thing. He/she was the only one. The council never gave the ok for Shepard to go after Saren on Ilos which his/her disobeying them was key to the victory. No other spectre would be on hand because they neverwas allow to be set there.Wrex never would have been ether. Shepard at that time was the one and only one to do it. Also, Shepard saving the citidel made him/her into an Icon. Shepard became an icon because he/she saved the citidel, not because he/she an icon they were able to save the citidel.

1)  Not unique.  There is more than one Spectre.  Therefore, becoming one is special, exceptional.  But not unique.
2) Now ask yourself, "Why was Shepard so determined to go to Ilos?"

TIM seemed to have the whole icon thing mixed up.  He says that what makes Shepard unique is what he represents, that he's a symbol for humanity.  He doesn't seem to take into account what it was about Shepard that got him there to begin with.  The human behind the legend.  Why no other Spectre would have violated the Council's orders.

1. So how many people can become a spectre? No much. An extremely small amount can be even considered. Being a Spectre is unique in itself.
2.Your still not understanding..... Though Shepard was at the right place and time to become the hero of the citidel. The reason he/she was even their is because he/she is the best humanity had to offer to be a spectre. Being even consider is unique because a small amount can be qualified, let allow become one. You need to understand what the word unique is.

1) The point being there are other Spectres.  It's an elite group, but Shepard is not unique, as in one of a kind, for being one of them.  The only aspect of it that makes Shepard unique is he's the only human member.

2)  Let me ask this.  What if the Council decided to send a more experienced Spectre after Saren?  Say, Tela Vasir?   She gets the same tips and visits the same places Shepard did in ME1.  What would have happened differently?  

Or say the Alliance decided to take matters into their own hands, and sends Eden Prime survivor Jacob Taylor into the Traverse to find Saren?  Repeat with other characters:  Nihlis, if he had survived.  Captain Anderson.  Garrus, Anyone you could think of.  What did Shepard have that they didn't?  How did he succeed when all the others would certainly have failed?  What made him "unique" in the truest sense fo the word?

1.The consept of a Spectre is unique among millitary branch. You have to bea certin type of person to be one. The type of person is unique.
2. The coucil would not send any spectre because they did not want to start a war. Also, the Alliance has the most advance stelth ship. The would not hand it to the coucil. Any othe ship would rish detection. The fact is if Shepard did not go ....No,one would of gone. And the fact Shepard went after being told not to did not stop the coucil from sending anyone else, which they did not. They were never going to send anyone to Illos.What made Shepard unique is that he/she fully understood the events on hand. The council did not and let politics stop them from doing anything about Illos.

1. No, it is not a unique branch. It is unique in and of itself but that does not make the individuals of that group any more unique than a person of extreme military competence.

2. No, they Council would not send a FLEET in and instead a Spectre because they did not want to trigger a war, you have it backwards. But of course towards the end they flip flop for the absolute convenience of the plot and nothing else.

2. My god you need to replay the game. They would not let a fleet in to Illos because it would stop a war and they did not send Shepard because of the same reason. It's ehy Shepard stole his/her own ship.

[Someone With Mass]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Kinectic Barries don't protect against large slow moving objects. EDI's statement supports what hes saying. Being THAT SIZE. The Normandy survives the debris field but gets knocked out of the sky by a fly piece of debris from the Collector ship upgraded or not.

The secret word of the day is C O N T R I V E D.

This isn't really hard to understand.

You mean the piece of the Collector ship that knocks it out after its systems went offline? 

[dreman9999]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Kinectic Barries don't protect against large slow moving objects. EDI's statement supports what hes saying. Being THAT SIZE. The Normandy survives the debris field but gets knocked out of the sky by a fly piece of debris from the Collector ship upgraded or not.

The secret word of the day is C O N T R I V E D.

This isn't really hard to understand.

1.
http://masseffect.wi...y_SR-2#Armament

Multicore shielding utilizing Cyclonic Barrier Technology (CBT) can be refitted to the Normandy SR-2 (Upgrade, Cost: 15,000 Palladium). The CBT violently slaps aside rather than halting incoming linear force. By rotationally firing their mass effect field projectors, the ship creates rapidly oscillating kinetic barriers instead of static ones. Shooting through the CBT is like trying to shoot at a target inside a spinning ball. If an emitter is damaged, the CBT corrects to become a traditional shield array, a safety feature that makes it most effective during opening volleys.
2. They were knocked down by a shock wave.

[111987]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
AHEM..kinetic barriers work only againt small object traveling at extreeme velocities.......

These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid
velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous
projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away
their chair.

I guess you can't read.

Those kind of shields aren't meant for use by soldiers. They're meant for starships.  

They can still track projectiles like normal shields and react accordingly.

"Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same."


I guess you can't read.

How can you possibly dispute a kinetic barrier defending against debris??? Read my posts, or watch the cutscene again. Please.

[Someone With Mass]

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

"Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same."


I guess you can't read.

That's for a regular shield, not the upgrade that radically changes the shield emitters' behavior.

I guess you're too stupid to understand that.

http://masseffect.wi...ology_.28CBT.29

Significant drawbacks to current CBT configuration prevent its use on anything other than frigates and fighters. Its many high-frequency sensors and emitters require frequent maintenance and replacement. A partially damaged CBT can endanger its operator, who is surrounded by rotating mass effect fields skewing in unpredictable directions.

Meaning, that if you're wearing that kind of shields, and they're damaged, they can tear you apart, while normal shields just cease to function.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:26 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

dreman9999 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
If you don't even know the balance of combat strength, WHY ARE YOU EVEN ATTACKING?
Sending forces into the unknwon - unnecessarily I might add - cannot be considered smart in any way, shape or form. It is the pinnacle of stupidity.

Afraid Colelctors would discover the probe? If  the oppoistion is light, jump the normandy right after that. No time for hte collectors to set up traps. If hte opposition is heavy, then trap the Collectors where they are. Blockade the Omega 4 relay. Put a minefield. Blow it up.

Information gives you OPTIONS. Informations gives you understanding.
Only a moron goes in guns blazing.

Here's the thing about my point. Trying to know the combat streght with bite us in the end. Why? because they can know our landing point, and when we attack..

How would they know our landing point?
Unless you mean  an enetry point from the relay? But they already know that, since there's a small safe zone on their side. All ships jump in there.

We don't even know if they could detect our probe (since we are jumping in the debris field). They didn't react immediately to the Normandy, only when it came closer.

Also, is impossible to blockade the relay. The collector would just blow through  the mines and destroy any ship patrolling the area. They out way use that much in combate streght and tech that ours can't stop them unless we directly attack them. You forgeting we are fighting an enemy that we base all are tech off from, the reapers and that tech is used by the collectors. We can't hold them back withwhat we have now.

Again, on what are you basing that? An un-upgraded Normandy can take out the Colelctor cruiser. So on what do yo ubase teh assumption that the collector ship would destrpoy the blockade? A single friagate took it out!

How would they even know there's a minefield? The Collector are on the other side. Unless they send probes first.

[Lotion Soronarr]

111987 wrote...

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
AHEM..kinetic barriers work only againt small object traveling at extreeme velocities.......

These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid
velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous
projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away
their chair.

I guess you can't read.

Those kind of shields aren't meant for use by soldiers. They're meant for starships.  

They can still track projectiles like normal shields and react accordingly.

"Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same."


I guess you can't read.

How can you possibly dispute a kinetic barrier defending against debris??? Read my posts, or watch the cutscene again. Please.

I can dispute it..Kinetic barrier protect agaisnt SMALL, FAST-MOVING objects.
Not big, slow moving ones.

Again, Normandy gets hit by debris and crashes in the end.... Adn if debris was not dangerous, they why did Joker manouver so franticly to avoid it???

[dreman9999]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

"Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same."


I guess you can't read.

That's for a regular shield, not the upgrade that radically changes the shield emitters' behavior.

I guess you're too stupid to understand that.

http://masseffect.wi...ology_.28CBT.29

Significant drawbacks to current CBT configuration prevent its use on anything other than frigates and fighters. Its many high-frequency sensors and emitters require frequent maintenance and replacement. A partially damaged CBT can endanger its operator, who is surrounded by rotating mass effect fields skewing in unpredictable directions.

So your saying that if Shepard does not perpare for the final mission, He/she is not going to have an easy time succeding in it.....
Isn't that understandibale and a reason alown to upgrade the sheilds any way? What's your point?

Modifié par dreman9999, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:35 .