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TheMakoMaster wrote...

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Just glad that there is the optional to live out a fictional existential crisis.  Who needs to pray when my Shep can cry into their pillow and wonder if they have any other purpose in their live other than to defeat Reapers.

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I won't be appeased nor aggrevated, I will however be pointed in my responses.

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Shepardism eh? Well, our commander often demands blind fait about "reapers" from people. Messiha complex perhaps?

Dont take me seriously.

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 Insulting religion  :innocent:

Modifié par PXXL, 28 août 2011 - 04:58 .


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whywhywhywhy wrote...

I won't be appeased nor aggrevated, I will however be pointed in my responses.


That's fine, I just wanted to be more clear on that point - though my post did perhaps come off as a bit condescending. I apologize.

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AnAccountWithNoName wrote...
Bioware is already adding controversial things like same-sex romance, so why not add some religious stuff?


Let's also add Shepard doing push ups in his quarters.

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Thekill_3 wrote...

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...
Bioware is already adding controversial things like same-sex romance, so why not add some religious stuff?


Let's also add Shepard doing push ups in his quarters.


And putting on a dress and dancing the Remigold - I've been waiting for Bioware to show us how that dance goes.

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PXXL wrote...

 Insulting religion  :innocent:


Dudes a ******. 

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I would like my shep to pray but the atheist feeling like their ears will shoot blood will riot and sue BW.

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Those guddamn American Athesists.

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as an atheist I have no problem if the option is there....the problem is how it will be implemented so it doesn't alienate anyone....because there are different types of praying and different gods to pray to...I think it's better to not have that come up than to do what I think would happen if such a thing did occur and have Shepard pull off a Christian prayer, alienating the rest of the theistic community...

tbh the only way I can see it working is if Ashley brings it up and she asks you to join her in prayer (and she should only do so if you've already told her that you are also a theist).......but even then, the complications are still there...

Modifié par ZenJestr, 28 août 2011 - 05:22 .


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ZenJestr wrote...

as an atheist I have no problem if the option is there....


TOO BAD! :P :lol:

*insert hellfire and brimstone rhetoric here*

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ZenJestr wrote...
as an atheist I have no problem if the option is there....the problem is how it will be implemented so it doesn't alienate anyone....because there are different types of praying and different gods to pray to...I think it's better to not have that come up than to do what I think would happen if such a thing did occur and have Shepard pull off a Christian prayer, alienating the rest of the theistic community...

tbh the only way I can see it working is if Ashely brings it up and she asks you to join her in prayer (and she should only do so if you've already told her that you are also a theist).......but even then, the complications are still there...


I can't see it being any more complicated than the religious discussions you have with her in ME1 - and I don't recall seeing Michael Newdow pop a blood vessel at any point after that game came out.

I see it more like Shepard simply bowing his head in silent prayer, and perhaps Ashley walks in and they have a brief conversation about that and what they're going up against when they arrive at the Local Cluster for the final battle.

Then, of course, the scene occurs where they make sweet love, and then they finally arrive at Ilo... err, I mean the Local Cluster for the final battle.

Modifié par greengoron89, 28 août 2011 - 05:30 .


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I don't care. I don't play religious Shepards. It was cool that you actually were able to say you were religious or not in ME1, so it would make sense to expand upon it further with such a massive threat. However, in the context of the ME universe, regardless of whether you believe it in it's current context, many of Earth's religions don't really make any sense. Once there are other sapient species with their own unique cultures and religions (not to mention the prospect of evolution being further proven as fact), I can't help but feel like religionshep, Ash, and basically any other religious character in the games are foolish.

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I think religion is avoided in ME because of this:

Muslim: HEATHEN!
Christian: BLASPHEMY!
Hebrew: REPENT!
Athiest: Your all ****ing wankers!

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In ME1 they handled it well with Ashley in my opinion. If you wanted to tell her to STFU you had that option and it never came up again. If you went Paragon you never use the name God, Jesus, Buddha, or etc. It was written in way to me that whatever YOU believed in or wanted the characters to believe in that's what Ash was referencing. It wouldn't be that difficult to write something in as option where Shepard sits down in his cabin with his head bowed and reflects for a moment. It would be up to the player to decide if it were a prayer or a meditation or simple agnostic relfection. Or they could have another character, perhaps Ash or another character bring up faith/religion again and again like in ME1 allow Shepard to either agree/partake with the character, be netural or tell them to STFU. What's the big deal, really?

BW avoided the idea of Shepard's experience of being dead. They only gave us the glib, ''I got better''.
Yet they touched on philosphy/spirtiuality with Thane which was odd. I think BW should grow a pair and place religion in there optionally just like the s/s relationships are optional. Both will ****** off a certain percentage of the fan base, but there's an equal amount of people that consider both to relevant to their story.

People comparing religion to masturbation or doing push ups are simply to juvenille to understand the concept of depth and development of a character, and are probably the same that scream and rant about Tali's face or not being able to dry hump every other character.

Modifié par eternalnightmare13, 28 août 2011 - 05:41 .


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TheMakoMaster wrote...

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What? No option to sacrifice a goat to Chango? I am disappoint.

On a more serious note, I am more interested in seeing people and members of other races break down into prayer when things get desperate. Humans, Asari, Turians... Not nessesarily squad mates, but background npcs on worlds you're trying to save.

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Meh, Shepard doesn't need God on his side, he's Shepard.


Amen to that brother. :)

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Considering the weird and horrible things Shepard have seen and done it would not be strange if he turned to religion, drugs or a bullet in the head to deal with his messed up mind.

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PXXL wrote...

 Insulting religion  :innocent:


 Thanks for linking him, I kinda like him.

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Takio wrote...

PXXL wrote...

 Insulting religion  :innocent:


Dudes a ******. 


I hope your trolling.

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How dare you insult my God by not allowing prayer? It's SO offensive. I DEMAND you include my God into this game. Or I will see you in court sirs! D:<


ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
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This is a joke BTW.

Even though I'm atheist, I'm totally not offended with their being some option for prayer at the appropriate moment. I can't see Shepard praying before a mission. But if it's endgame, and the universe is doomed. He may just head up to Ashley's room for some final words.

Modifié par A Great Biotic Wind, 28 août 2011 - 07:40 .


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Thekill_3 wrote...
Let's also add Shepard doing push ups in his quarters.


Oh yeah because religion and religious practices are so similar to excercise <_<

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My Shepard can handle repaers without prayers.

Modifié par Trinity66, 28 août 2011 - 07:46 .


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A Great Biotic Wind wrote...

How dare you insult my God by not allowing prayer? It's SO offensive. I DEMAND you include my God into this game. Or I will see you in court sirs! D:<


ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
Image IPB
This is a joke BTW.

Even though I'm atheist, I'm totally not offended with their being some option for prayer at the appropriate moment. I can't see Shepard praying before a mission. But if it's endgame, and the universe is doomed. He may just head up to Ashley's room for some final words.


I knew the Flying Spaghettie monster was real, this image is 100% solid proof:happy: