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[jamesp81]

Was how the templars rebelled.  Poor Hawke was so torn during the whole Act 3 ordeal because he's a devout man.  But now that they've rebelled, Hawke can go about merrily killing templars for fun and profit with a clear conscience

[dragonflight288]

HAHAHAHA.

The vast majority of Thedas view templars as holy defenders...or at least they did. Most likely they seem them as thugs and ruffians by this point in the timeline.

[TEWR]

Nice.

The Templars have gone back to being the Inquisition now. Only they're far more dangerous because they're hooked on lyrium. The Chantry's own method of controlling them will now be an important part of their downfall. The Templars' and the Chantry's.

[The Baconer]

Hopefully DA3 will allow us to return to the mundanes to their proper place in humble servitude.

Sadly, it would most likely be too drastic to implement.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

It would be pretty cool if, in future DA titles, one can pursue bounties on both mages and templars. Maybe even as a way to drain both sides resources and profit greatly. That would be pretty cool.

Especially if the templars go all nutso, like they are bound to do, once the lyrium lunacy kicks in.

[Rifneno]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Especially if the templars go all nutso, like they are bound to do, once the lyrium lunacy kicks in.

"If" is not the appropriate tense, as this already occured.  

[Urzon]

I wonder if we will be seeing the return of Cullen in DA3, either as either as an important figure or ally. He always seemed to be a very devout person, and i don't see him agreeing with breaking off from the Chantry. I'm sure he will be for returning the mages to the Circles, but after having to work with nutcase Meredith; i could see how he would be opposed to taking the law into their own hands like the other templar.

[Rifneno]

Urzon wrote...

I wonder if we will be seeing the return of Cullen in DA3, either as either as an important figure or ally. He always seemed to be a very devout person, and i don't see him agreeing with breaking off from the Chantry. I'm sure he will be for returning the mages to the Circles, but after having to work with nutcase Meredith; i could see how he would be opposed to taking the law into their own hands like the other templar.

If that bastard rears his ugly head again, we better finally be given the chance to remove it from his neck.

[TEWR]

Rifneno wrote...

Urzon wrote...

I wonder if we will be seeing the return of Cullen in DA3, either as either as an important figure or ally. He always seemed to be a very devout person, and i don't see him agreeing with breaking off from the Chantry. I'm sure he will be for returning the mages to the Circles, but after having to work with nutcase Meredith; i could see how he would be opposed to taking the law into their own hands like the other templar.

If that bastard rears his ugly head again, we better finally be given the chance to remove it from his neck.

The only way I'll tolerate him is if he becomes more pro-mage. Not "Let them be free sans restrictions!", but just a more pro-mage person. Though I highly doubt he will so... sword please!

[Rifneno]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only way I'll tolerate him is if he becomes more pro-mage. Not "Let them be free sans restrictions!", but just a more pro-mage person. Though I highly doubt he will so... sword please!

There is no way I'll tolerate him. It simply isn't going to happen. Every templar that followed Meredith in executing the Right of Annulment deserves to be executed.  No exceptions.

[Dave of Canada]

Filament wrote...

Yes, along with the chance to kill all mages. Put them in their proper place... dead!

No, no. That'd be too wasteful.

Tranquil the lot of them, least we'd be able to use the profit to rebuild Thedas.

[jamesp81]

Urzon wrote...

I wonder if we will be seeing the return of Cullen in DA3, either as either as an important figure or ally. He always seemed to be a very devout person, and i don't see him agreeing with breaking off from the Chantry. I'm sure he will be for returning the mages to the Circles, but after having to work with nutcase Meredith; i could see how he would be opposed to taking the law into their own hands like the other templar.

Cullen is unique in that he's seen tragedy caused by both sides of the equation.  In DAO, he got to see Uldred up close and personal.  In DA2, he experienced the madness of his templar commander up close and personal.

Seriously, you'd think after DA2 he'd just retire to try to get away from the insanity of it all.

[Rifneno]

jamesp81 wrote...

Cullen is unique in that he's seen tragedy caused by both sides of the equation. In DAO, he got to see Uldred up close and personal. In DA2, he experienced the madness of his templar commander up close and personal.

Seriously, you'd think after DA2 he'd just retire to try to get away from the insanity of it all.

There's a big difference between the two events. In one of them, he was a witness/victim of the madness. In one of them, he was part of the madness. I don't see why he should get any more mercy than people give Idunna, for instance. Which is to say, none.

[Warden Majere]

So just a question, I've played through DA2 twice now and I was wondering if it is all the Templars who split from the chantry or just the Kirkwall/Free Marches Templars. If all of them, why? They weren't there, and if anything they should be marching with Leliana at the front to put down these fools!

[Relix28]

Rifneno wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only way I'll tolerate him is if he becomes more pro-mage. Not "Let them be free sans restrictions!", but just a more pro-mage person. Though I highly doubt he will so... sword please!

There is no way I'll tolerate him. It simply isn't going to happen. Every templar that followed Meredith in executing the Right of Annulment deserves to be executed.  No exceptions.

Oh, the irony of this post. lol

[Warden Majere]

Relix28 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only way I'll tolerate him is if he becomes more pro-mage. Not "Let them be free sans restrictions!", but just a more pro-mage person. Though I highly doubt he will so... sword please!

There is no way I'll tolerate him. It simply isn't going to happen. Every templar that followed Meredith in executing the Right of Annulment deserves to be executed.  No exceptions.

Oh, the irony of this post. lol

:lol:

[Nerevar-as]

Relix28 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only way I'll tolerate him is if he becomes more pro-mage. Not "Let them be free sans restrictions!", but just a more pro-mage person. Though I highly doubt he will so... sword please!

There is no way I'll tolerate him. It simply isn't going to happen. Every templar that followed Meredith in executing the Right of Annulment deserves to be executed.  No exceptions.

Oh, the irony of this post. lol

Indeed. But they probably killed even the children. So if I get the chance to kill Cullen he´d better have a very good reason for me to spare him. I´m going Renegade here.

[Xilizhra]

Rifneno wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Cullen is unique in that he's seen tragedy caused by both sides of the equation. In DAO, he got to see Uldred up close and personal. In DA2, he experienced the madness of his templar commander up close and personal.

Seriously, you'd think after DA2 he'd just retire to try to get away from the insanity of it all.

There's a big difference between the two events. In one of them, he was a witness/victim of the madness. In one of them, he was part of the madness. I don't see why he should get any more mercy than people give Idunna, for instance. Which is to say, none.

Wait, you kill Idunna? Dang.

Eh. I'll only kill Cullen if he tries to kill me and doesn't surrender; it's a policy I only lifted for Kelder, and that was because he was begging me to kill him.

[Rifneno]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Indeed. But they probably killed even the children. So if I get the chance to kill Cullen he´d better have a very good reason for me to spare him. I´m going Renegade here.

Exactly. In DAO Wynne pretty much writes "you're signing up to defenseless murder children?!" on a sign and beats the Warden with it. The RoA shown in DA2 is the Disney version. It wouldn't exactly be good for Bioware's PR to show up on Jack Thompson's latest crusade with footage of templar impaling a weeping, terrified child. But that is what's happening, DAO was crystal clear with that.

Xilizhra wrote...

Wait, you kill Idunna? Dang.

Eh. I'll only kill Cullen if he tries to kill me and doesn't surrender; it's a policy I only lifted for Kelder, and that was because he was begging me to kill him.

A few times on my most sympathetic characters I'd spare her, but for the most part she's wormfood. And really, I think that's more merciful than the only other option. We know the reputation of Kirkwall's templars... What do you really think was happening that she spent years wishing for death? And after she finally does turn good, what happens? Meredith has the Circle annuled.

[Xilizhra]

A few times on my most sympathetic characters I'd spare her, but for the most part she's wormfood. And really, I think that's more merciful than the only other option. We know the reputation of Kirkwall's templars... What do you really think was happening that she spent years wishing for death? And after she finally does turn good, what happens? Meredith has the Circle annuled.

Well, we don't know that she was killed during that (assuming you don't waste the whole Circle, obviously). I still hold out hope.

[Rifneno]

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, we don't know that she was killed during that (assuming you don't waste the whole Circle, obviously). I still hold out hope.

Fair enough. Personally I doubt she made it. It seemed like the ones who did were those who could escape while Hawke was going Incredible Hulk on the templars, but Idunna was in solitary confinement.

[esper]

Don't you think Idunna was sent to Aeonar? I would spare her if I could, but sadly there is only kill or imprisoment for her. If Cullen gets back as companion and Li like his fans demand it is going to be very easy for my straight females to chose who to romance (whoever the other option is) and while I have a problem murderknivefing companions, I think that Cullen have done just enough to get on my death list.