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willholt wrote...
Like I mentioned earlier... this decision opens the floogates for future DLCs to include companion armour. You can almost hear the sound of cash registers ringing like mad, as I'm pretty sure most who are happy with this decision will be ever so eager to chuck their money at those companion armour DLCs.
Ah well ... <_<
dheer wrote...
I don't really have a horse in this race but it looks like what DA2 did with a few more jewelery type slots for stats. Unless they have more than a couple looks for you to customize your companions, I don't know how this is much of an improvement. /shrug
dheer wrote...
I don't really have a horse in this race but it looks like what DA2 did with a few more jewelery type slots for stats. Unless they have more than a couple looks for you to customize your companions, I don't know how this is much of an improvement. /shrug
dheer wrote...
I don't really have a horse in this race but it looks like what DA2 did with a few more jewelery type slots for stats. Unless they have more than a couple looks for you to customize your companions, I don't know how this is much of an improvement. /shrug
That's true, at least it won't all go to waste like it felt in DA2. Just seems a shame to not be able to see it. Still, i'm not angry about it or anything. There are much bigger fish to fry.ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
dheer wrote...
I don't really have a horse in this race but it looks like what DA2 did with a few more jewelery type slots for stats. Unless they have more than a couple looks for you to customize your companions, I don't know how this is much of an improvement. /shrug
It's an improvement because you actually get to use all those rogue and mage items now.
Dave of Canada wrote...
DA:O
People are unhappy about unique looks.
People are happy about stat customization.
People are happy about playing dress up.
DA2.
People are happy about unique looks.
People are unhappy about stat customization.
People are unhappy about playing dress up.
(Hypothetical) DA3.
People are happy about unique looks.
People are happy about stat customization.
People are unhappy about playing dress up.
It's a compromise between DA:O and DA2, it just doesn't compromise the things some of you might value. Doesn't stop it from being a LOUSY compromise, however.
Modifié par filetemo, 29 août 2011 - 11:11 .
Double fix'd.willholt wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
DA:O
People are unhappy about unique looks.
People are happy about stat customization.
People are happy about playing dress up.
DA2.
People are happy about unique looks.
People are unhappy about stat customization.
People are unhappy about playing dress up.
(Hypothetical) DA3.
People are happy about unique looks.
People are happy about stat customization.
People are unhappy about playing dress up.
It's a compromise between DA:O and DA2, it just doesn't compromise the things some of you might value. Doesn't stop it from being a (LOUSY for some) compromise, however.
Fixed
Modifié par DrunkDeadman, 29 août 2011 - 11:15 .
TheBlackBaron wrote...
This would have been the best solution, imo. Have the "default" armor and weapons they come be unique in their appearance and level up along with them, and balance it so that it's serviceable and useful but not necessarily the best available for their class. Then have full-on stat and visual customziation, DA:O-style, for those that want to muck around with that.
Brockololly wrote...
But being a visual medium, why is it that difficult for BioWare to show the visual changes associated with changing armor, if you want (or why not make it a toggle like the helmets)? Hell, BG2 had it and that was 11 years ago now? DAO managed. Is it a memory issue on the consoles most likely? Why should the developers care if I have Morrigan in massive armor as opposed to her "iconic" robes?
Filament wrote...
leonia42 wrote...
And the characters aren't yours except Hawke. Have some respect for your NPCs and their needs. Or if you don't care about the companions and story, why are you bothering to play a Dragon Age game at all?
If that's the case perhaps they should remove full party control.
Ramus Quaritch wrote...
Atakuma wrote...
I'm baffled by the reaction to this. You get full control of your companions stats again, I thought that would be important, but apparently people are more interested in playing dress up.
For people who played not just DA:O but also Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, and Knights of the Old Republic (me included), having a wide variety of armors that you purchase or pick up in the game world and equipping them on your companions was a staple. You loot/purchase armors and put them on your companions and you can tell beyond a shadow of a doubt which outfit is on the companions. DA2 took all of that customization away. That is why there is that kind of reaction.
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In Exile wrote...
NO.
This is not the best solution. This is telling people that like iconic apperances, but also like to play on nightmare to go **** themselves. It's as simple as that. Either you abandon distinctive companions, have a brutal challenge with subpotimal armour, or lower the difficulty.
It's the solution that gives you exactly what you want, but it's not the best solution. Whether what Mike proposes is a good compromise is up to the individual (this is, in fact, the system I wanted and support strongly, so this is giving me exactly what I want) but what you're offering is punishment.
Why not make the iconic armours the best gear in the game and then make every other item you find (that can change the apperance) significantly inferior? This is basically what you're suggesting for people who like unique apperances.
Serpieri Nei wrote..
Unless, your system is going to have at least 8 armors per companion to offer a wide range of variety. I am not at all intrigued.
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In Exile wrote...
What does the combat mechanic have to do with the characters being independent? In a turn-based strategy game you control multiple units, but that doesn't mean you are all the units simulataenously.
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csfteeeer wrote...
That's why i recommended the armor to upgrade with levels, they did already with Varric and Bianca.
Filament wrote...
Distinctive outfits could very well be one of the best outfits for your companions' default builds. They wouldn't have to be mediocre at all.
And it seems like "dress-up" is the new buzz word. It's a little condescending. And continues to be a bit hypocritical when that's exactly the functionality Laidlaw wants to add in the game himself in his design outline, just in a different way, and no one happy with the design is complaining about how silly that is.
I'm not sure what you're suggesting. The henchmen were full character models, and their appearance behaved exactly the same as the player character (well, you couldn't really change the look of Deekin, but he didn't have a character race model).Zjarcal wrote...
Eh, I played NWN and in the OC you couldn't even access the companion's inventory (they only changed look as they leveled up). In the expansions you could change their gear but it wouldn't always have a visual effect. In fact most of the time it didn't.
Filament wrote...
Maybe it shouldn't be a turn based strategy game where you can control multiple units if those units aren't truly "yours to control."
It's an arbitrary cutoff line that you're drawing about what level of control players should have and what they shouldn't. I'd like the cutoff to be at a different point. But let's not get holier-than-thou with this "the characters aren't yours, have some respect" stuff.
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