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Man i tried...loved Dragon age 1 but this game...does it ever gets interesting?


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Deltacommand wrote...

Every fantasy title has a little extravagancy, even A Song of Fire and Ice, which tends to be quite realistic (remember Blackwater and the green flames). It's the heritage of the genre:


I have to take your word for it. I have yet to read them. That series is sitting on top of my rather large pile of "need to read fiction" books.

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It's the heritage of the genre: for the hero to find the strength and execute that dragon in that way. Not by punching Sir Isaac Newton in the face by a 30 meter jump (that's better left for JRPGS, where everything is possible), but by having skill and a bit of luck (remember Legolas and the skateboarding in Helm's deep). Riding on the head of the archdemon is skill, but jumping 30 metres in full plate armor is just really out of place in a world like Thedas.


I disagree. All of those were inserted for the coolness faction in my eyes not to show skill. Especially Legolas shieldboarding something he never did. Just like him killing the Murmikill (big war elephent) single handly.
The only saving grace was he does a Fred Flintstone slide off the trunk.

SO its clear I like the Dragon finishers but they just dont seem in place and also this particular fight was disturbingly jarring and I am no fan of it.

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I felt the same. I think it's unlikely that things will get any better for you now if you've not enjoyed it so far.

Go into it prepared for a wretched anticlimax, prime yourself to enjoy it despite that and it's possible you'll be pleasantly surprised.

I will say - even though there are people who say they enjoyed the ending of DA2, thought it was good, I find it almost impossible to believe - I sort of want to look them in the eye searchingly while they say it, haha.

Of course I accept they believe what they say, and aren't lying or anything, I guess it just sits poorly with me.

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thank Range Rover couldnt have put it better myself, me personally i have a wife 2 young kids and both me and my wife work, me full time my wife part time i also happen to be mostly confined to a wheelchair due to nerve damage from a car accident so as you can proberly guess i dont get much spare time.While others situations arnt as extreme as mine nevertheless most people dont have 100hrs plus to do a single character playthrough let alone multiple playthroughs now a game like origins may well be ok for a teenager who's only concern is getting his homework in on time or a Uni student on some pointless course like Politics which proberly describers most of the angry ranters on here who hate anyone who even played DA2 for a split second with a vengance.

Funny thing is for all that group hates DA2 and anyone who even remotley likes is they sound exactly like sister petrice from the chantry "Give us what we demand Bioware or we shall enrage the faithful ! "
even more laughable is that they often call themselves the "Bioware Faithful" because if you were part of the "Bioware Faithful" then you would act in a respectful manner not slagging off all the Dev team of DA2 saying "they should be fired" and accusing Bioware of "selling its soul to the EA devil"

At the end of the day if the Devs on the DA3 team think your group has a point im sure they have heard it allready a 1000 times over what that same group fails to realise is that all the winging in the world (about a game you had no intention of even trying to enjoy with an open mind ) wont change a thing DA3 will be made by Bioware the way Bioware decide's at that point you have 2 choices
1) Prove your really the "Bioware Faithful" quit ur whining buy DA3 and play it with an open mind.
2) Prove the rest of us right and retreat to your rooms and keep playing your beloved DAO through your "Rose Tinted" ray-band Aviators, the rest of us wont miss you and we'll enjoy DA3 and the peace and quiet.

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Act 3 is only terrible because there isn't even an illusion of choice. You are railroaded into one set path, and that does not belong in an RPG let alone a Bioware game.


I'd actually say the exact opposite. Kind of.

You are railroaded to the endgame, yes, but there are still choices, they just are not clear.

We won't know how DA2 will matter until the expansion or DA3.

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I'd also like to say, companion interaction is legitimately horrid in DA2. They all had so much potential. But I mean, how am I supposed to get to know them if I can only talk to them 2-3 times an act? Let alone a romance? I mean, come on.

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It's popular to hate DA2. I despised it when It came out. Replayed it, found it to be a quality game. Not as OMGAMAZING as it's predecessor, but if it wasn't rushed as it obviously was, it could well have been.

Still think it's a good game. Not up to Bioware's standards, but still a hell of a lot of fun... greatly looking forward to what comes next.

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well they choices at the end are simple
1)side with the templars from start of "the last straw",meredith turns on you you kill her become viscount of kirkwall and leave after an undisclosed amount of time.
2) side with the mages from start of "the last straw" meredith wants you dead you kill her and are forced to flee before the divine's army comes.(metioned when you meet the agent of the divine in the viscounts throne room act 3 after talking to the grand cleric with sebastian)
in essence the only other noticeable difference is wether you fight templars or mages and demons prior to your fight with meredith.

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Pretty much. Either way, Hawke has to take off when the Exalted March shows up.

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

I dont need an unknowable truth because its clear from their comments they have only played the standalone game minus Legacy and the other DLC dragon age is a combat oriented rpg after having played videogames for over 24 years i can tell the difference and the one thing you dont do in a combat oriented game is make the combat criminally slow like it was in origins thats like putting someone in a motorcycle race and then taking away the motorcycle.

and wether it was marketed as a sequel or not is irrelevant if it was a true sequel then the main character would have been the warden not hawke who was a minor figure in the battle for ostagar featured in origins.
therefore it isnt a sequel and should not be treated as such, and yes DAO fans are selfish because as far as they are concerned juding by their comments and rants is that the only soloution they will accept for DA3 is to make it exactly like DAO but with better visuals,where as most sensible sane people like me and others are willing to accept some compromise between the 2 and we dont go shouting oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like DA2 then we're not buying it Which is exactly what most of the hardcore DAO fans that post on here say and as for bias i have none personally i would choose the ace combat series or Total war series of games over WoW or BG
the fact is many gamers like myself have wives children and jobs which we have to put first and its those kind of gamers that have other more important responsibilities than sitting on our butts for 120hrs eating deep fried mars bars that wouldnt be able to enjoy a decent RPG if all these Hardcore origins fans had their way and since as there are at 20 other RPG's out there that would please that group of hardcore RPG'ers then yes i think it is selfish of them to keep wanting more of the same.

put it this way would you like it if every TV show was Big Brother or American Idol or Xfactor or Dance with the stars or Eastenders or Coronation Street or Neighbours or Home and Away because more people have watched them than say Top Gear or WWE or TNA i dont think you would would you ?



May I suggest that your perception is blinded by your own bias? Why would anyone invest additional funds into DLC when the base game was so below their expectations, secondly a combat heavy game such as DAO is quite different from resolving almost every encounter through combat which was DA2. Whilst I don't require someone with 24 years experince to tell me a shovel is a shovel, just as individuals who dumped DA2 halfway through didn't need to get to Act 3 to gain a legitimate view of the game, paticularly as the player should not have to drag themselves through it.

As to whether it is a sequal, that is a faulty syllogism, "it does not posses the same character therefore it is not a sequal" Ignoring the overwhelming details of setting, timeline, lore, character refrences, continuation of events (however small they might be. Whilst, how you managed to get to "DAO fans are selfish because they want more DAO." is beyond me, but I assume you are a purveyor of that perfidious little fantasy like so many others who run out of reasoned discourse and engage in the equivalent of Mcarthyism in an attempt to discredit legitimate complaints. Compromise? More akin to an act of appeasement, particularly as disign direction is mutually exclusive in some cases, and obviously there has been no cry for DA3 to be exactly the same as DA2, considering the negative reception its release recieved, it is probaly wise for a developer to distance oneself from it.

Whilst you're sterotypical view of gamers, tells me a great deal and remains on a par with the same foolishness as that of those gamers who assume any casual gamer is a drooling moron. Myself, I have little time to play or use the forums as I have  work, studies, reading, gym, etc. Yet, that is not a reason to streamline an entire genre into utter simplicity, or do you enjoy a simple storyline of A vs B whilst mindlessly hacking through the third wave of cannon fodder enemies? Personally I couldn't think of a bigger waste of time, nor does it hold my interest.

And, I actually grew up playing the odd FPS game, whilst total war is one of my favorite RTSs, but  from your comments I gather that you are content with the homogonisation of all genres into a single mass market, which is what you are implying, by claiming DA2 is the move for RPGs to follow. Personally I am not, If I pick up an RPG or and FPS I expect there to be a difference in game design, not superflous alterrations, whilst I have only recently come into RPGs, so I have never played BG. And for the record I despise all forms of soaps operas and rarely watch the Tv, other than the news, because of the current decline towards x factor becasue it is popular. Which DA2 epitomises in its move towards attracting a wider audience through simplification, rather than modification and improvement.

Whilst your own comments remind me a great deal of DA2's most strident detractors, in their blinkered views. I will simply say pot meet kettle.

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The fact still remains that most of those posting on here that they hate DA2 and see it as inferior to origins have either never played it or did play DA2 but had allready decided beforehand that they will hate it regardless these facts are obvious because they claim to have played both games fault everything in DA2 while claiming that origins was perfect or amazing.
Now in my case i played origins when it came out and played it thouroughly because you can only judge a game as a sum of its parts what your suggesting is acceptable would be the equivalent of judging a whole game based on a early beta test release which is STUPID ! full stop .
it would be like me judging how quick you car accelerates when the engine isnt even in the dam car.

Then when DA2 came out i played it through start to finish made a observation and re-evaluated it as new content and DLC came available which is the approach of a sensible who knows from 24yrs of experiance the difference between a shovel and a poopascoop and are you seriously going to sit there and say that someone who can play DAO and all its content which means a single playthrough can reach upwards of 200hrs cant manage a meere 60-80hrs to do a solid single run through of DA2 and all its content ?

The simple fact is that anyone who has enough time to do multiple playthroughs of origins
has enough time and patience to do one solid complete playthrough of DA2 and if they cant manage that wel then frankly RPG's are not for them.
As to DAO fans being selfish its clear they are if they dont like DA2 and are allready complaining that they wont buy DA3 if it contains and elements of DA2 then thats fine go away because as i have allready said there are at least 20 other RPG's out their to suit them.

And if they bought DA2 when it was made clear well before launch that it was nothing like origins well then more fool them for buying it.the facts are casual gamers make up the biggest sector of the video games players RPG's have always been a niche market since time began and regardless of sales figures origins fans would be fools if they thought that EA who holds the reigns are going to trade in a potential market of hundreds of millions of casual gamers for a couple of million dedicated RPG players who only play that genre of game then they are sadly mistaken.
Deny it all you like but as the old saying goes "Money makes the world go round" and thats all EA cares about money money money.

Regardless i will be buying and pre-ordering DA3 when it is released even though origins was a let down and it will be played with an open mind and no pre conceptions of expectations based on pre-ceeding games

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

The simple fact is that anyone who has enough time to do multiple playthroughs of origins
has enough time and patience to do one solid complete playthrough of DA2 and if they cant manage that wel then frankly RPG's are not for them.


So basically if we didn't like DA2 we are not true RPG players? You may want to re evaluate that statement. 

And if they bought DA2 when it was made clear well before launch that it was nothing like origins well then more fool them for buying it.the facts are casual gamers make up the biggest sector of the video games players RPG's have always been a niche market since time began and regardless of sales figures origins fans would be fools if they thought that EA who holds the reigns are going to trade in a potential market of hundreds of millions of casual gamers for a couple of million dedicated RPG players who only play that genre of game then they are sadly mistaken.
Deny it all you like but as the old saying goes "Money makes the world go round" and thats all EA cares about money money money 


And this contradicts everything you've said. 


And not everyone is sitting here complaining and moaning. They are just trying to make sure Bioware does a better job. They are fans of the franchise. They WANT IT TO BE BETTER. So thats why they post. Not for whatever reasons you have been suggesting. 

Modifié par FaWa, 02 septembre 2011 - 01:34 .


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jbrand2002uk wrote...

And if they bought DA2 when it was made clear well before launch that it was nothing like origins well then more fool them for buying it.


That is not true, I believe though can't recall the exact [words]. In an interview fans of DA:O were told they kept enough of DA:O's aspects to keep those fans happy but in reality the result was different.

Quoted from my review.

DA2 is not the same style, its not even the same engine, idiology, direction or even plot structure. Throwing in a simular title, couple cameos and codex entries does not make it the same tbh. Bit like give someone some jelly beans they hand you a coin (you like the coin) next time you hand them some jelly beans expecting another coin due to fact they tell you will get another coin but will be of different denomination instead they hand you a baloon with coin painted on it (you don't like the trick played on you because it's obvious) and you don't like the baloon.  Then people on BSN (some of them) end up turning around and have a go at you for saying you didn't want a baloon afterwards.


You fall into that last sentence catagory with such comments you just posted.

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As a few others have said I would just finish it and form your own opinion. You made it this far why stop now?

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

Ok I'll you a deal Captain_Obvious, I'll start propperly punctuating all my replies when other people quit making negative comments about a game they clearly havent played, or have played it with the misguided expectation that is in anyway comparable to DAO
Like i have said DA2 did have some faults yes, mainly the copy and paste attitude towards some of the levels like the caves for example.

But for some people to say that they never fixed any of the faults that origins had is wrong, the fixed almost every flaw origins had ,though i admit there is still room for improvement.
The simple fact remains that because DAO fans have realised that the Dev's have moved with the times to appeal to a broader cross-section of the gaming public, instead of just pure hardcore RPG players who like nothing more than to spend 100+ hrs to complete 1 playthrough, they post all over the web with nothing but negative comments not even admitting the improvements that were made.

If they want a game with dull, slow paced combat, side quests that take hours to complete and and about a bizillion abbilities to learn they allready have the perfect game for them its called Dragon Age Origins, furthermore to have the opinion that the only acceptable Dragon Age game, is their kind of Dragon Age game is the height of stupidity and arrogance. To add to that they insult people who have played every game that has supported Bioware by buying and playing their games and not writing off the company just because 1 of the many games they have made doesnt meet their own demands, These proliffent whingers then have the cheek to call themselves the Bioware Faithful which they clearly are not.That's also the reason why most of the people who have nothing but negative opinions about Dragon Age 2 could never work in the games review industry, because the one thing you can't have is a slanted opinion.

Simply put the times have moved on and RPG's in the style of Dragon Age origins are out dated and out of touch with what the majority of game players want, after all Bioware has to think of its profits if it is to continue the francise, the cold hard numbers say there are far more general gamesplayers that may well pick up a game like Dragon age 2 than hardcore oldschool RPG only players who think origins is as good as the Genre gets



Jbrande,  combat in an RPG is usually slow-paced, due to the fact that it is not Duke Nukem or Wolfenstein or games like that. :P       The main focus is the stories and the characters..............OR that used to be how it was.   Bioware has taken it into their minds they want the Call of Duty fans for their fanbase, hence all the changes in DA2,  hence why DA2 which is supposed to be a SEQUEL,  is nothing at all like DA: Origins.     I HAVE played DA:2 they got a free 60 bucks out of me, because from release day to now, I still cannot get immersed in that game..it is no longer an rpg, which is what I thought it was supposed to be.     It is an action ..shooter hybrid ..THING..to attract the COD players.

Some of us have been around for awhile now,  I played DA: Origins right the day it released,  Nov 3 2009,  I am STILL playing it.    It still captures my imagination, it still is a great game.    DA2 far as I am concerned is a blip on the screen and eventually I will be able to ignore it completely, and pretend it never happened. 

THAT is my personal experience and personal opinion.     This is how I see it.   Arguing with me isnt going to change my mind. heh

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

The fact still remains that most of those posting on here that they hate DA2 and see it as inferior to origins have either never played it or did play DA2 but had allready decided beforehand that they will hate it regardless these facts are obvious because they claim to have played both games fault everything in DA2 while claiming that origins was perfect or amazing.
Now in my case i played origins when it came out and played it thouroughly because you can only judge a game as a sum of its parts what your suggesting is acceptable would be the equivalent of judging a whole game based on a early beta test release which is STUPID ! full stop .
it would be like me judging how quick you car accelerates when the engine isnt even in the dam car.

Then when DA2 came out i played it through start to finish made a observation and re-evaluated it as new content and DLC came available which is the approach of a sensible who knows from 24yrs of experiance the difference between a shovel and a poopascoop and are you seriously going to sit there and say that someone who can play DAO and all its content which means a single playthrough can reach upwards of 200hrs cant manage a meere 60-80hrs to do a solid single run through of DA2 and all its content ?

The simple fact is that anyone who has enough time to do multiple playthroughs of origins
has enough time and patience to do one solid complete playthrough of DA2 and if they cant manage that wel then frankly RPG's are not for them.
As to DAO fans being selfish its clear they are if they dont like DA2 and are allready complaining that they wont buy DA3 if it contains and elements of DA2 then thats fine go away because as i have allready said there are at least 20 other RPG's out their to suit them.

And if they bought DA2 when it was made clear well before launch that it was nothing like origins well then more fool them for buying it.the facts are casual gamers make up the biggest sector of the video games players RPG's have always been a niche market since time began and regardless of sales figures origins fans would be fools if they thought that EA who holds the reigns are going to trade in a potential market of hundreds of millions of casual gamers for a couple of million dedicated RPG players who only play that genre of game then they are sadly mistaken.
Deny it all you like but as the old saying goes "Money makes the world go round" and thats all EA cares about money money money.

Regardless i will be buying and pre-ordering DA3 when it is released even though origins was a let down and it will be played with an open mind and no pre conceptions of expectations based on pre-ceeding games


I can do 23 characters run-through of DA: Origins and thoroughly enjoy every minute of it...matter of fact thats exactly what I did.   Its not a matter of time and patience,  its a matter of IMMERSION, there is none.  It is built for the action shooter type folks, its no longer Dragon Age as we knew it.  Its not a sequel, it seemed more like a dlc to me,  like...when is the real DA 2 starting, why I am playing this thing, it is too disjointed, boring..uninteresting and a few other similar words.   It does not draw you in, it does not get you involved.    It feels like a quickly thrown together dlc instead of a full fledged sequel. 

I have all the time in the world to play, because I am retired.  Therefore I spend as much or as little time as my daily routine allows.    So ..no teenager here.  I KNOW what I like and I know what I dont like.

It is not about time and patience, and is definitely about the immersion factor, which is missing big time from the first chapter, and just completely bogs me down, bores me and makes me shut the game down.  

I will keep a watch on DA:3 whenever that is planned for, and if I see the very same things for DA:3 as DA:2 then I will know that things will not be changing any time soon, and Bioware has lost me as a customer.   I am very much on the verge of that now.     

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

The fact still remains that most of those posting on here that they hate DA2 and see it as inferior to origins have either never played it or did play DA2 but had allready decided beforehand that they will hate it regardless these facts are obvious because they claim to have played both games fault everything in DA2 while claiming that origins was perfect or amazing.

No one ever claim that DA O was perfect. Majority of people here agree that DA O combat is a little bit too slow and required tweaking. DA 2 improved that.... way... too... fast and over the top.
Some people are unhappy because DA O companions has nothing to say when they run out of dialogues. Instead of making more expository dialogues, Gaider cut that out and turn DAO's  engaging personal conversation into one dimensional interaction. As a result, we get unhappy people who feel the companions are shallow characters that doesn't deserve attention from PC. And the recycled environments? Even the critics themselves don't like that element. Let alone the fan base. Did BioWare learn this from their previous games? Nope. Can you blame the gamers for the outburst? 


jbrand2002uk wrote...
Then when DA2 came out i played it through start to finish made a observation and re-evaluated it as new content and DLC came available which is the approach of a sensible who knows from 24yrs of experiance the difference between a shovel and a poopascoop and are you seriously going to sit there and say that someone who can play DAO and all its content which means a single playthrough can reach upwards of 200hrs cant manage a meere 60-80hrs to do a solid single run through of DA2 and all its content ?

That preciously why any sensible person can observe and conclude that this new content doesn't merit a 2 behind it's name. It's not a sequel. It's not even Thedas 2 ( as it try to be a personal story of  the champion of Kirkwall, yet it loose it's focus and change course trying to bring out world conflict in ACT 3. )

jbrand2002uk wrote...
As to DAO fans being selfish its clear they are if they dont like DA2 and are allready complaining that they wont buy DA3 if it contains and elements of DA2 then thats fine go away because as i have allready said there are at least 20 other RPG's out their to suit them.

I'm not going to bother to reply all your post. Majority of DA O fans will not blindly pre-order DA 3. Sure, some may already written off DA franchise. Even, BioWare already noted they lost some of their fans and try to regain them back with the concept of marrying the best of 2 worlds. Few other origins fans like myself haven't given up hope yet on DA 3 and waiting patiently for further news on DA 3. But that doesn't give you the right to shoo/drive all of us and I don't think BioWare would want that either. In short, you are being confrontational and I suggest you to stop annoying DA O fans.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 02 septembre 2011 - 06:24 .


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If you disliked act 1 and act 2, chances are you won't be very impressed with act 3. It's about the same quality or a bit lower than act 2. I think of all the acts, act 1 was the worst. It took way too long to build up momentum and felt incredibly weird and disjointed.

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

The fact still remains that most of those posting on here that they hate DA2 and see it as inferior to origins have either never played it or did play DA2 but had allready decided beforehand that they will hate it regardless these facts are obvious because they claim to have played both games fault everything in DA2 while claiming that origins was perfect or amazing.

Why do you even bother taking part on a discussion forum. You allready know everything about everybody and read people's souls. The dialogue and exchange of ideas that form the basis of discussions are clearly below your godly standards.

As holder of universal truths you could just enjoy your infinite knowledge and let mortals do their dumb things.

Modifié par Rauhallinen, 02 septembre 2011 - 07:43 .


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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as they can be civil about it. Name calling and insults are never fun to deal with in a Public discussion. Infact Name calling only further hinders your opinion to others.

I may not like that DA2 gets bashed daily here it seems, but I'm not going to insult those who dislike it for legit reasons. The only thing I can hope to do is post my own opinions and hope there are others who share it, so we can have a awesome discussion about an enjoyable game.

All I have to say..

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FaeQueenCory wrote...

The only thing I liked about Act3 was the final boss fight....
Even though the plot for everything up to that point was very shakey....
And although the final boss is a little too.... anvilicious? Their dialogue during the final fight was... amazing.
Not to mention that the final fight was very beautifully choreographed and dramatic.


The real final boss fight was really nice indeed, dialogue was good. Action was... a great deal over the top though very much expected considering the rest of DA2's combat. The other boss fight and how it got to a fight in the first place (non spoilers section so can't get into it) was just plain stupid and pretty much facepalm worthy.

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Robhuzz wrote...

FaeQueenCory wrote...

The only thing I liked about Act3 was the final boss fight....
Even though the plot for everything up to that point was very shakey....
And although the final boss is a little too.... anvilicious? Their dialogue during the final fight was... amazing.
Not to mention that the final fight was very beautifully choreographed and dramatic.


The real final boss fight was really nice indeed, dialogue was good. Action was... a great deal over the top though very much expected considering the rest of DA2's combat. The other boss fight and how it got to a fight in the first place (non spoilers section so can't get into it) was just plain stupid and pretty much facepalm worthy.


I agree with about the first boss fight and how it happened, it just seemed so out of character..

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My point really was simple, if you prefere DA0 over DA2 then that fine just go and play DAO and quit whinging about DA2 until i started having large armounts of insults directed at me both on here youtube and elsewhere purley because my 1st post simply said :just played DA2 and its legacy content and enjoyed it more than i did origins.

until that point i had been one of the respectful Bioware faithful who may have not liked DAO but at least gave it 1 full playthrough to judge is as a whole, not form an opinion as fact based on only playing 50% of the game.and as for name calling saying that a DAO fan is stupid to have formed an opinion on DA2 after only having plaid 50% of the base game is nothing to the torrent of abuse i have recieved from DAO fans who have called me a Bioware traitor for even daring to slightly enjoy any part of DA2 over origins. I have even been accused of "selling my soul to the EA devil" the point being just because DA2 sold less games than origins and all its DLC does not give Origins fans the right to start some kind of personal crusade against people who happened to enjoy DA2, and lets be clear on this it was Origins fans who were the first to result to the name calling and mud slinging.
and if we want to get into the nitty gritty of forums then for those same said group who love Origins so much it has its own forum so go there rather than coming on a DA2 forum and spouting garbage

if you really dont like DA2 then do the sensible thing and email Bioware with your concerns instead of going around mudslinging on forums and if you dont like that an occasional player of DA2 tells you shut up and take your negativity elsewhere then all i can say is if you dont like heat then dont light the darn fire in the first place, i for example do not go on the Origins forums and start a mud slinging war just because i was disapointed with the game

And just incase someone decides to be silly enough to argue said point open your eyes use them and the brain thats supposed to be behind them this is a DRAGON AGE 2 forum and in my vast experiance never have a seen a bunch of fans of one game be so abusive as origins fans have been,
just for once in your lives use common sense and dont go spouting opinions about a game as fact when you clearly havent played the game to its full extent because untill you play both games in their entirety as i have your not qualified to offer an opinion now if you have played both in their entireity and still think origins is a better games with all its bugs and crashes then fine i dont agree with you but thats you choice just dont go starting mudslinging at people who happen to diagree with you

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

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why do you keep making these long posts where you basicly iterate your two contradicting ideas over and over ...

idea a) i think people who didnt like DA2 didnt play the whole game
idea B) everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if that opinion is bad, they should not express it here

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well then maybe you can answer why DAO fans got the misguided expectation that DA2 would be anything like origins when widely publicised reviews of the finished final code where made available in both magazines and across the internet at least a month before release which made it crystal that DA2 was completely different in everyway to Origins.So then knowing that why buy it then complain about it just simply dont buy it.

The standalone differance between the two camps of fans for DA2 and DAO is that most DA2 fans are more than willing to accept a DA3 that is a blend between DA2 and DAO, Wheras the attitude of alot of DAO fans is that they wouldnt even consider DA3 and would write off Bioware if any element of DA2 made it into DA3 and they seem to think that they are they only RPG players in the whole universe and its only their opinion that counts and in 24yrs of gaming are the only group of fans so dedicated to one interpration of a game that rude abusive attacks on anyone who disagrees with them are acceptable. As allready stated it was Origins fanatics who started this who mudslinging malarkey, fine express your opinion but dont go starting all the abusive behaviour towards people who dont agree with you.

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

well then maybe you can answer why DAO fans got the misguided expectation that DA2 would be anything like origins when widely publicised reviews of the finished final code where made available in both magazines and across the internet at least a month before release which made it crystal that DA2 was completely different in everyway to Origins.So then knowing that why buy it then complain about it just simply dont buy it.


I would like to disagree here with you:

a) a lot of Origins fans (including me) preordered Signature edition, way before the demo was out ...

B) nothing was crystal clear months before, not to mention, as fans people still have had some faith in Bioware

jbrand2002uk wrote...

The standalone differance between the two camps of fans for DA2 and DAO is that most DA2 fans are more than willing to accept a DA3 that is a blend between DA2 and DAO, Wheras the attitude of alot of DAO fans is that they wouldnt even consider DA3 and would write off Bioware if any element of DA2 made it into DA3 and they seem to think that they are they only RPG players in the whole universe and its only their opinion that counts and in 24yrs of gaming are the only group of fans so dedicated to one interpration of a game that rude abusive attacks on anyone who disagrees with them are acceptable. As allready stated it was Origins fanatics who started this who mudslinging malarkey, fine express your opinion but dont go starting all the abusive behaviour towards people who dont agree with you.


sounds like a good advice =)