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[esper]

I actually like act three well enough execpt Best Served Cold. Act 1 is my worst act, I still wish that we didn't have to do all of the main quest there.

[RagingCyclone]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

RagingCyclone wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

and furthermore i make no apoligies for being one of the few who likes DA2 and refuses to be bullied off the forums by cyber-thugs and for any of the group of said DAO/A fanatics that like to constantly quote snide remarks and forum ettiquette at me try following it yourself before preeching to others and maybe people like me would start treating you in a less aggressive manner

18 hours later and you're still going at it?


To the OP: I would suggest finishing the game. While many agree that Act 3 is a convuluted mess, there are some good points in it that are worth seeing at least once. Plus by playing the game through you can get a glimpse of how the DA world is forming. While Act 3 does hit and miss, clues are there if you look for them. While I like Origins better, I still play DA2 depending on the day and what my mood is. Hope this helps.

that was what i was saying from minute one before the Origins hardcore in here started the typical approach of shouting down anyone who even tries to enjoy DA2 

Funny thing is, I am a hardcore Origins fan, and a lot of what some other Origins fans have been saying mirror my own statement. How you got it blown out of proportion I have NO idea.

[Melca36]

RagingCyclone wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

RagingCyclone wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

and furthermore i make no apoligies for being one of the few who likes DA2 and refuses to be bullied off the forums by cyber-thugs and for any of the group of said DAO/A fanatics that like to constantly quote snide remarks and forum ettiquette at me try following it yourself before preeching to others and maybe people like me would start treating you in a less aggressive manner

18 hours later and you're still going at it?


To the OP: I would suggest finishing the game. While many agree that Act 3 is a convuluted mess, there are some good points in it that are worth seeing at least once. Plus by playing the game through you can get a glimpse of how the DA world is forming. While Act 3 does hit and miss, clues are there if you look for them. While I like Origins better, I still play DA2 depending on the day and what my mood is. Hope this helps.

that was what i was saying from minute one before the Origins hardcore in here started the typical approach of shouting down anyone who even tries to enjoy DA2 

Funny thing is, I am a hardcore Origins fan, and a lot of what some other Origins fans have been saying mirror my own statement. How you got it blown out of proportion I have NO idea.

Exactly Rage...

He's acting like everyone who has an issue with DA:2 is a hater.  It was a fun game but it could have been a better game than what it was.

And considering how they listened to feedback...Legacy is proof on how DA:2 should have been

[furryrage59]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

RagingCyclone wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

and furthermore i make no apoligies for being one of the few who likes DA2 and refuses to be bullied off the forums by cyber-thugs and for any of the group of said DAO/A fanatics that like to constantly quote snide remarks and forum ettiquette at me try following it yourself before preeching to others and maybe people like me would start treating you in a less aggressive manner

18 hours later and you're still going at it?


To the OP: I would suggest finishing the game. While many agree that Act 3 is a convuluted mess, there are some good points in it that are worth seeing at least once. Plus by playing the game through you can get a glimpse of how the DA world is forming. While Act 3 does hit and miss, clues are there if you look for them. While I like Origins better, I still play DA2 depending on the day and what my mood is. Hope this helps.

that was what i was saying from minute one before the Origins hardcore in here started the typical approach of shouting down anyone who even tries to enjoy DA2 

The only person shouting and crying is you.

If you are supposed to be the shining beacon of a DA:2 fan, then i feel sorry for them.

Stop whining and move one, you're obviously too unstable to form anything apprroaching a coherant argument and instead rant and rage. The best debaters aren't the ones who freak out, screaming and stamping their feet like you are and have been, they counter with facts and evidence to back up their stance and let that be their weapon.

Or you can just shout and cry about people not liking a computer game, your choice.

[jbrand2002uk]

not really i have said in posts on other threads that DA2 had faults i was even unbiast enough to list them what i found most insulting was one user who purely becausei said i look also in places outside the offical forum such as DA nexus and youtoube among others I was refered to as IT now while i may disagree with some people as to the greatness or not of Origins i dont go round calling people it just because they
A) disagree with me
happen to look at forums from more than one site

[fightright2]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

well being nice is all fine and well in a perfect forum but alas when the main forum is dominated by Origins fans arrogant enough to think that their opinion is the right opinion and the only opinion which can be summed up as Thus : DAO/A was perfect completly without fault and the best RPG ever DA2 is inferior in our opinion and therefore doesnot exist furthermore anyone who likes Dragon Age 2 is stupid and doesnt know an RPG from their behind and not that im having a go fightright but forums and life in general is all about give and take and If the DAO/A fans that dominate the forum cant be bothered to even try then why should i or any other person even bother to be nice to them at all

Look, your not alone in liking DA2. I know quite a few in here, actually. And many of which have strong voices but they hold themselves to a degree of civility when doing so.

No one is asking you to make apologies for liking DA2 so you don't have to defend against that.

Just know this, many on here (as you'll find in all forums and all throughout  the world) love to argue and deliberate on their expositions. Some have the ability and intellect to convey their thoughts fully and are quite educated to do so.

Some choose to do it in a congenial manner.

Some do not.

Some are downright mean and nasty.

Some just like to argue for the sake of thinking it views them to be regarded as highly intellegent.

And  some just like to jest and mean no personal offense or harm.

The way I see it is, knowing all this, one has to pick and choose carefully with whom they engage with and respond to.  I know it can be a little hard and daunting when some are quick to cut one down for their opinion. But really, it's best to not let anyone have power over you to get a rise out of you. Many times I see it and some chime in with a 'back off and leave 'em alone' posts and befriend them for it.

All I can say is, don't bring yourself down to anyone's level if you believe them to be outright rude. Move on.
Your opinion is YOURS and to each his own, I say. If they don't like it, toughsh*t.

Since I joined, I have found most of my friends are not in the same opinion as mine but we have a great time with poking each other (gently) for it  and we don't engage in war if we disagree in any future threads.

Peace:wizard:

[FieryDove]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i could keep this up all day but alas i have more important things to do like cooking my kids tea's instead of debating the wind with a group of stuck in the muds

You should try brewing your tea.
http://www.teavana.c...&9mraw=make tea

Also it may not be wise to make tea for your *kids*.http://www.amazing-g...-drink-tea.html

To the thread:
I don't think Bioware wants to make RPG's anymore. I've said this for over a year now with all the interviews from Ray and Greg and such it seems that way.

Mark Darrah basically says they want to make very fast paced interactive narratives that anyone can jump in and play. A tall order but there it is.
http://www.zam.com/s...559&storypage=3

As for what the future holds now after DA2's release who knows? Many did not like it at all, many loved it, and even more I think are in the *meh* camp. (The mostly quiet camp)

I didn't like act 3 at all myself so if someone didn't enjoy the game upto that point I can't see that changing the opinion.

Modifié par FieryDove, 02 septembre 2011 - 07:21 .

[erynnar]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

not really i have said in posts on other threads that DA2 had faults i was even unbiast enough to list them what i found most insulting was one user who purely becausei said i look also in places outside the offical forum such as DA nexus and youtoube among others I was refered to as IT now while i may disagree with some people as to the greatness or not of Origins i dont go round calling people it just because they
A) disagree with me
happen to look at forums from more than one site

And people have for the most part disagreeed with you, civilly, some more than others. But you continue to whine that eveyone is bullying you, they are trying to make you apologize for liking the game. None of which has been true, you just wish to be a martyr. The people who have disagreed with you civilly have done so with rational arguments to which you just whine more and point fingers and call bullying and round and round it goes.

Enough already. This thread shouldn't get locked because you don't seem to understand the concept of agreeing to disagree. 

This is about the OP and encourging them to play it through to the end if the OP is so inclined, not your overblown sensitivity and feelings of being picked on.

PS, the argument of "you DAO fans just wear rose colored glasses and don't see the flaws" is an old one that has been debated by better than you, and has been proven to be the trite little pile of dung it is. But if you want to argue that one, please, there are threads around here somewhere that are more suited to it, should anyone be inclined for grins and giggles to oblige you.

Modifié par erynnar, 02 septembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[dragonfire100]

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Act 1 is mediocre, Act 2 is great and Act 3 is among the worst things produced in the 21th century, no joke.

Thats what i always say act 1 was ok act 2 was perfect act 3 needed some work.

[Texhnolyze101]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

[Texhnolyze101]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

the thread itself is pointless how can he/she have actually tried to love this game if they have on got as far ss act 2 thats not even trying at all finish the game in its entirity then **** about but not before

Because act 3 sucks and should not be played ever. period.

[Texhnolyze101]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i could keep this up all day but alas i have more important things to do like cooking my kids tea's instead of debating the wind with a group of stuck in the muds

Than do so.

[erynnar]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

To you. To you DA2 (and a group of people like you) was better. To me (and a group of others like me) think DAO is better. DAO did have more content, more details, and more replay value (though some find DA2 has replay value, I was not one) and took longer to play. To name a few things. But again, glad you liked DA2 better (really, I am very glad you did) but I was not one of those and my opinion isn't wrong nor does it make you right or wrong either.

[furryrage59]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

I tried to read it, was not a pleasant experience.

Besides his foaming at the mouth raging, he seems genuinely delusional. No point even debating with him as he makes strawmen at record pace and blithers on, attacking everyone who doesn't agree with his ignorance.

[Reno_Tarshil]

to OP:

Like others have stated you should at least try to complete the game if just once. You might end up liking it.

[Texhnolyze101]

erynnar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

To you. To you DA2 (and a group of people like you) was better. To me (and a group of others like me) think DAO is better. DAO did have more content, more details, and more replay value (though some find DA2 has replay value, I was not one) and took longer to play. To name a few things. But again, glad you liked DA2 better (really, I am very glad you did) but I was not one of those and my opinion isn't wrong nor does it make you right or wrong either.

o.o i don't like DA2 ery..was that directed at me?

[dragonfire100]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

to OP:

Like others have stated you should at least try to complete the game if just once. You might end up liking it.

Dude i like DA2 but srly dont force opinion on another no matter if they think the game is bad just let them think it.

[erynnar]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

erynnar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

To you. To you DA2 (and a group of people like you) was better. To me (and a group of others like me) think DAO is better. DAO did have more content, more details, and more replay value (though some find DA2 has replay value, I was not one) and took longer to play. To name a few things. But again, glad you liked DA2 better (really, I am very glad you did) but I was not one of those and my opinion isn't wrong nor does it make you right or wrong either.

o.o i don't like DA2 ery..was that directed at me?

Sweetie, no!  Sorry! :(It as meant for brand2002uk.

And really, understanding why someone thinks it's a good game or a bad one is irrelevant. I don't see how it's a good game (it's meh to me) but my understanding of why someone else thinks it is doesn't matter. It only matters that to him/her it is a good game. To me it's a meh game. We all just have to be understanding of each other and agree to disagree and agree to debate civilly. Or so it seems to me.

edited due to being tired and unclear...

Modifié par erynnar, 02 septembre 2011 - 11:55 .

[Reno_Tarshil]

dragonfire100 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

to OP:

Like others have stated you should at least try to complete the game if just once. You might end up liking it.

Dude i like DA2 but srly dont force opinion on another no matter if they think the game is bad just let them think it.

Uhm that wasn't forcing an opinion at all, that was just a suggestion to have a sense of completion.

[dragonfire100]

erynnar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

erynnar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

To you. To you DA2 (and a group of people like you) was better. To me (and a group of others like me) think DAO is better. DAO did have more content, more details, and more replay value (though some find DA2 has replay value, I was not one) and took longer to play. To name a few things. But again, glad you liked DA2 better (really, I am very glad you did) but I was not one of those and my opinion isn't wrong nor does it make you right or wrong either.

o.o i don't like DA2 ery..was that directed at me?

Sweetie, no!  Sorry! :(It as meant for brand2002uk.

And really, understanding why someone thinks it's a good game or a bad one is irrelevant. I don't see how it's a good game (it's meh to me) but my understanding of why someone like thinks it is doesn't matter. It only matters that to him/her it is a good game. To me it's a meh game. We all just have to be understanding of each other and agree to disagree and agree to debate civilly. Or so it seems to me.

Thats one of the best speechs sense john epler you should be a mod really.

[dragonfire100]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

dragonfire100 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

to OP:

Like others have stated you should at least try to complete the game if just once. You might end up liking it.

Dude i like DA2 but srly dont force opinion on another no matter if they think the game is bad just let them think it.

Uhm that wasn't forcing an opinion at all, that was just a suggestion to have a sense of completion.

But if they dont want to finish the game so what?what he thinks can be respected as long as he dont treat it like a fact because like mr epler said we dont do that on these fourms.

[Reno_Tarshil]

dragonfire100 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

dragonfire100 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

to OP:

Like others have stated you should at least try to complete the game if just once. You might end up liking it.

Dude i like DA2 but srly dont force opinion on another no matter if they think the game is bad just let them think it.

Uhm that wasn't forcing an opinion at all, that was just a suggestion to have a sense of completion.

But if they dont want to finish the game so what?what he thinks can be respected as long as he dont treat it like a fact because like mr epler said we dont do that on these fourms.

Except all I'm saying is a suggestion, not a YOU MUST DO THIS OR ELSE. I respect that the OP finds the game not interesting but I think the OP should at least try to finish it, but if they want too that's fine too.

[dragonfire100]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

dragonfire100 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

dragonfire100 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

to OP:

Like others have stated you should at least try to complete the game if just once. You might end up liking it.

Dude i like DA2 but srly dont force opinion on another no matter if they think the game is bad just let them think it.

Uhm that wasn't forcing an opinion at all, that was just a suggestion to have a sense of completion.

But if they dont want to finish the game so what?what he thinks can be respected as long as he dont treat it like a fact because like mr epler said we dont do that on these fourms.

Except all I'm saying is a suggestion, not a YOU MUST DO THIS OR ELSE. I respect that the OP finds the game not interesting but I think the OP should at least try to finish it, but if they want too that's fine too.

Oh i see now well sorry about that.

[Texhnolyze101]

erynnar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

erynnar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i just cant believe people can come on here and say origins was better than 2 i have played both and many other rpgs since the mid 1980's and origins was so dull slow long wind and generally boring that most people would have more fun wearing a straight jacket sat in a padded cell tranquilised by the halfway point of origins i was bored out of my skull combat was way to slow and for a game thats less than 5 yrs old the graphics were appaling while visuals are towards the bottom end of priorities in and RPG for a game thats less than 5yrs old its unacceptable for a PC game if i was to write a list of the faults with origins on a sheet of paper it would stretch from miami to san franciso(for u yanks) DA2 did have its faults i agree but it was a vast monumental improvement over the dud that was origins but for those who are partway through their 1st playthrough finish the game and dont let some very closed minded idiots put you off what is a good game and well worth the 90% reviews many magazines gave it and lets face it they know alot more about games than so of the so called experts on here who think you can compare origins with 2 the automotive equivelant would be like trying to compare a car to a motorcycle you cant they are completely different just as DAO and DA2 are completely different which therefore makes it totally impossible to make a direct comparrison but alas alot of DAO players are very selfish people as they think their opinion is the only opinion and the right one if you like hardcore rpg's with a 100hr + quest and nerdy level of detail into stats and your d+20 rolls and all that you have origins and about a hundred other rpg's to go and play so quit ruining the fun and depriving people who want to play an RPG without having to spend over 80hrs to complete one runthrough by coming on the dev site and saying oh well if DA3 isnt exactly like origins then well i'll never buy another bioware game again just seriously go lock urselves away in your room and dont ever come back out because the rest of the world is happy with the way things are and where it might be going

tl;dr

To you. To you DA2 (and a group of people like you) was better. To me (and a group of others like me) think DAO is better. DAO did have more content, more details, and more replay value (though some find DA2 has replay value, I was not one) and took longer to play. To name a few things. But again, glad you liked DA2 better (really, I am very glad you did) but I was not one of those and my opinion isn't wrong nor does it make you right or wrong either.

o.o i don't like DA2 ery..was that directed at me?

Sweetie, no!  Sorry! :(It as meant for brand2002uk.

And really, understanding why someone thinks it's a good game or a bad one is irrelevant. I don't see how it's a good game (it's meh to me) but my understanding of why someone like thinks it is doesn't matter. It only matters that to him/her it is a good game. To me it's a meh game. We all just have to be understanding of each other and agree to disagree and agree to debate civilly. Or so it seems to me.

ah ok no harm done

[erynnar]

@dragonfire100 aw thanks for the compliment.

@101ezylonhxeT , yeah sorry, I hit quote on the wrong post. *HUGGLES*