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[Xariann]

 I thought I'd post a video of my Shotgun infiltrator. I had this idea in mind for a while and then I found out there is a guide in this forum of how to play one. So this isn't really any guide but just a "Here's my first try with that strategy." Lot's of things I could have done better, like charge the Geth shotgun more, don't miss a couple of shots I missed and so on. Someone suggested I use Incendiary Ammo as well (Jacob's) I'll try that on a mission. I sneaked past part of the mission too.

So here's the video info:



Insanity mode. Using shotgun and maxed out Warp Ammo, Assassination cloak and Assassin passive. Again this was actually my first attempt at this, and I am sure there could have been things I could have handled better.

Obviously before this there was the Collector Ship mission where I got the shotgun from. You can one shot normal Collectors (not Harbinger) by shooting from cloak even when they have full biotic barriers up.

Considering using Stasis on my next try with Jack in the squad so I keep at least a level 3 Warp Ammo on my gun. Not sure though whether the damage buff from Stasis would compensate for Warp Ammo but that would be the idea behind it. Also helps keep the enemies still.

There are a couple of drawbacks for the shotgun Infiltrator that I could see, compared to other classes using shotguns. First of all, chain killing things fast can be a chore. You need to charge your Geth Shotgun, release the first shot on an enemy, cloak doesn't break, shoot the second normal shot to the second enemy. Then you are left vulnerable and need to find cover until you get your next cloak.

You don't get any time slows slows from Charge (or Adrenaline Rush if you were a soldier) and in some cases it might be easier to miss someone, especially if they are backing off from you even while cloaked. It seems to be some bug, the enemies won't shoot you when you are cloaked, but sometimes they see you and back off.

Cloak stops your regen and you don't get your shields back up like you would with Charge. Maybe rather than using Warp Ammo, I could use Improved Geth Shield. I'd get still some weapon damage, to which I could add Jack's Warp ammo, that would make a total of 45% weapon damage rather than 50% weapon damage but then I'd have shields to put up back up after I get out of cloak if I time my cooldowns right.

P.S.: Tried Stasis in another mission, alas I didn't capture it. It does seem to make up for the lack of Warp Ammo as when you shoot someone straight out of stasis you can one shot them. Part of it might be the glitch, but the shotgun already does a lot of damage so even with proper modifiers from the buff Stasis gives normally the result should be the same.

Modifié par Xariann, 29 août 2011 - 01:30 .

[SpockLives]

Cool vid. I hadn't thought of using the GPS on an Infiltrator. Here's a tip you may already know, but I didn't see you do in the video. When you are down to just one shot left on the clip, you can still charge your shot and do double damage even though it only expends one shot. It's a great way to conserve ammo. (Of course I usually forget to do that, too.)

[Xariann]

I definitely could have used charge more, there are times where looking at the vid I thought, "Why didn't I charge it?" And thanks for the tip

[Onpoint17]

Geth shield boost on an infiltrator is awesome. It adds the durability that the character normally lacks. You can stay out of cover a lot longer and cast incineration without the shield going down.

[ryoldschool]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Actually, if you have the Capacitor Helmet, combining it with the Capacitor Chestplate will offer very good protection as to make GSB unnecessary.

Has anyone tested to see if the capacitor helmet really does anything?  10% is a very small time to measure.  I know that other equipment, like the one that is suposed to reduce cool down time, does not do anything.

[Praetor Knight]

ryoldschool wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Actually, if you have the Capacitor Helmet, combining it with the Capacitor Chestplate will offer very good protection as to make GSB unnecessary.

Has anyone tested to see if the capacitor helmet really does anything?  10% is a very small time to measure.  I know that other equipment, like the one that is suposed to reduce cool down time, does not do anything.

I'm still searching to see if there has been any thorough testing of the time but it seems that each 10% saves about a second or so. So both could save about two seconds off of the base of 7 seconds it normally takes.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/2425910/2#2519074

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/2558780#2575076

Edit: So far, I've found this thread on shields in general and a segment on the two pieces. I wonder if there has been any more testing.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/128/index/1884034/1

*goes back to searching*



2nd Edit: Hey found a good test. So I guess it actually takes 5 seconds to recharge for the base rate.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/4897319/1#4905755

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 29 août 2011 - 09:57 .

[Bozorgmehr 2.0]

That's some good advice iOnlySignIn.

I also fell in love with Cryo Ammo and Neural Shock playing a shotgun Infiltrator. OniGanon has a great thread about the GPS Neural Shock Infiltrator. I'm also impressed by TonyGunslinger's Agent.

Don't underestimate the amount of control an Infiltrator can have over the battlefield. Cryo Ammo and NS are great CC abilities, AI Hacking is marvelous on most mission - it can turn any fight involving synthetics into a good laugh and easy killing (you gonna love those LOKI's

I've made a video inspired by OniGanon's guide - for the lulz. I'm not using Cloak because I don't have to. Neural Shock and Cryo Ammo (and FB'ing Harbinger) make it easy. In your video AI Hacking would be awesome - you can even hack the YMIR at the end and have it wipe out the rest of those morons for you!

I like the video though, a good old high-risk stealthy shotgun ninja FTW

@ ryoldschool, I've no idea. But it actually felt like regen kicks in pretty randomly. Sometimes it started quicky, sometimes it took ages. I don't know if anyone tested this (should be interesting).

[termokanden]

The GPS is great at range. I love how its projectiles actually seek your target a bit. Try aiming and firing at a rocket drone, you'll see what I mean. It's almost cheating. Almost \\

My shotgun infiltrator uses the Eviscerator though. The sound and feel is more... shotgun-y.

Modifié par termokanden, 29 août 2011 - 10:33 .

[Xariann]

I kinda like to shoot at point blank though, even if it's risky, it was the whole point of going shotgun. GPS works at range, it doesn't mean you can't use it at point blank. In some places you one shot things, it's pretty awesome to see. Lots of nice discussion and links, I will need some time to view them all.

As for Flashbang Grenade I have used it in several runs, I find it's great. Neural shock I actually never tried. I need to use it on some run!

One thing, I was doing the Suicide Mission just now and got a bit flustered towards the end because I had a lot of issues with getting out of cover. This is what would happen: I'd start the GPS charge, put up cloak, try to jump over the cover and Shepard just would stand up and take fire. It got me killed a couple of times. Anyone else had this kind of problem? Seemed a bit of a bug to me.

[Xariann]

Bozorgmehr 2.0 wrote...

That's some good advice iOnlySignIn.

I also fell in love with Cryo Ammo and Neural Shock playing a shotgun Infiltrator. OniGanon has a great thread about the GPS Neural Shock Infiltrator. I'm also impressed by TonyGunslinger's Agent.

Don't underestimate the amount of control an Infiltrator can have over the battlefield. Cryo Ammo and NS are great CC abilities, AI Hacking is marvelous on most mission - it can turn any fight involving synthetics into a good laugh and easy killing (you gonna love those LOKI's

I've made a video inspired by OniGanon's guide - for the lulz. I'm not using Cloak because I don't have to. Neural Shock and Cryo Ammo (and FB'ing Harbinger) make it easy. In your video AI Hacking would be awesome - you can even hack the YMIR at the end and have it wipe out the rest of those morons for you!

I like the video though, a good old high-risk stealthy shotgun ninja FTW

@ ryoldschool, I've no idea. But it actually felt like regen kicks in pretty randomly. Sometimes it started quicky, sometimes it took ages. I don't know if anyone tested this (should be interesting).

Nice video you got there. Now here's a question for you: Squad or single cryo ammo? Which one would have the better chance to freeze an enemy? The single one is supposed to freeze more frequently, but 3 people shooting cryo bullets should be just as good if not better?

[Bozorgmehr 2.0]

I recall someone ran a couple tests a while ago, but the difference between the squad and improved version were very small. Overall I would go with the squad version. Cryo Ammo does make your squadmates' shooting skills usefull - they will freeze quite a lot of folks and that makes a difference in combat.

One point in Cryo is also an option. The important thing with Cryo Ammo is the weapon you're using. Heavy pistols and sniper rifles have an (almost) 100% chance to freeze the target, the Vindicator and Mattock are also reliable one-shot-freeze weapons. The best weapons are shotguns (except the GPS), they fire 8 pellets per shot and everyone of them can trigger the effect. This basically means you can one-shot-freeze most enemies through their protection (the Scimitar plus cryo ammo will change the battlefield into a fridge

Oh, and don't forget frozen enemies act like cover. When you hide behind one, the others won't shoot ya (they care too much about their frozen buddies

[Xariann]

Bozorgmehr 2.0 wrote...

I recall someone ran a couple tests a while ago, but the difference between the squad and improved version were very small. Overall I would go with the squad version. Cryo Ammo does make your squadmates' shooting skills usefull - they will freeze quite a lot of folks and that makes a difference in combat.

One point in Cryo is also an option. The important thing with Cryo Ammo is the weapon you're using. Heavy pistols and sniper rifles have an (almost) 100% chance to freeze the target, the Vindicator and Mattock are also reliable one-shot-freeze weapons. The best weapons are shotguns (except the GPS), they fire 8 pellets per shot and everyone of them can trigger the effect. This basically means you can one-shot-freeze most enemies through their protection (the Scimitar plus cryo ammo will change the battlefield into a fridge

Oh, and don't forget frozen enemies act like cover. When you hide behind one, the others won't shoot ya (they care too much about their frozen buddies

Interesting, I didn't know about the pellets each triggering the cryo effect, as well as the cover thing. That's really good info. Although a shotgun can one shot things, is it worth it to have cryo on that type of weapon?

Also I added a couple of other Shotgun Infiltrator videos, just my way of playing, there are probably other 15 ways to do play it of course

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Modifié par Xariann, 30 août 2011 - 10:49 .

[RedCaesar97]

Xariann wrote...
Interesting, I didn't know about the pellets each triggering the cryo effect, as well as the cover thing. That's really good info. Although a shotgun can one shot things, is it worth it to have cryo on that type of weapon?

The Claymore can one-shot most enemies, as can the GPS. The Eviscerator can also one-shot enemies sometimes. Cryo ammo works best on the Scimitar, followed by the Katana.

The Scimitar typically is not strong enough to shoot off an enemy's defenses in one shot, which means you are pretty much guaranteed to freeze on the second shot.

For Shotgun Infiltrators, Cryo ammo on the Scimitar is invaluable, particularly if you running around with Cloak activated.

[Xariann]

Right, makes sense.

[Bozorgmehr 2.0]

Yeah, only a charged GPS or a point blank Claymore blast can one-shot the usual suspects (on Insanity). All elites and bosses require multiple shots to kill. This makes cryo ammo useful even when you're using the Claymore; Geth Hunters, Krogan, Vanguards, Elites, Engineers, Collector Guardians/Assassins etc can be one-shot-freezed (with a very high chance of success).
Nice vids BTW, I LOL'ed how you finished Legions mission! But you also made things a lot harder for yourself. Infiltrators have access to AI Hacking and you've got Legion as a fixed teammember on this mission (you could also add Tali to your squad). AI Hacking on Geth missions equals having a "self-destruct" button to de-activate the Geth. It's insanely powerful and a lot of fun to use.
Here's an example about how you can handle Geth with AI Hacking: www.youtube.com/watch

And here's a topic with lots of hilarious AI Hacking videos (and info) : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/5743362

You're already skilled using Cloak and a shotgun - but there's a lot more to the Infiltrator class. Try to use your other abilities and become a true master of stealth AND sabotage. IMHO that's so much more fun

[Simbacca]

I loved using Cryo Ammo and a shotgun on my favorite Infiltrator, which i detailed in the second half of this post here.  Of course this was more a control build utilizing Cloaked attacks with Cryo Ammo-powered rapid fire weapons alongside Neural Shock, AI Hacking, and Incineration Blast as opposed to your more one-shot kill focused GPS Infiltrator Xariann.  Still it may provide a good contrast and shed light on some of the uses of some of the Infiltrator's controlling capabilities.

At work now so I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet but hope to later.

[Xariann]

Bozorgmehr 2.0 wrote...

Yeah, only a charged GPS or a point blank Claymore blast can one-shot the usual suspects (on Insanity). All elites and bosses require multiple shots to kill. This makes cryo ammo useful even when you're using the Claymore; Geth Hunters, Krogan, Vanguards, Elites, Engineers, Collector Guardians/Assassins etc can be one-shot-freezed (with a very high chance of success).
Nice vids BTW, I LOL'ed how you finished Legions mission! But you also made things a lot harder for yourself. Infiltrators have access to AI Hacking and you've got Legion as a fixed teammember on this mission (you could also add Tali to your squad). AI Hacking on Geth missions equals having a "self-destruct" button to de-activate the Geth. It's insanely powerful and a lot of fun to use.
Here's an example about how you can handle Geth with AI Hacking: www.youtube.com/watch

And here's a topic with lots of hilarious AI Hacking videos (and info) : social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/5743362

You're already skilled using Cloak and a shotgun - but there's a lot more to the Infiltrator class. Try to use your other abilities and become a true master of stealth AND sabotage. IMHO that's so much more fun

This is not my first run though, this is a "stalk 'em all" one. I actually did Legion's mission with both Tali and Legion with AOE AI hacking... it was confusing XD Wasn't sure who to shoot anymore and sometimes I'd try to shoot Legion too. I'd have Geth trying to get next to me and shoot the other Geth, then suddenly turn around and try to shoot me, then I'd re-hack and I wasn't sure who was what once again. Heehee. But it was fun.

On this run I was focussing on "ninja tactics." So I'd use the drone a lot more (spamming the drone on CD meant no AI hacking) and they'd get distracted, allowing me to sneak near them. I have used incinerate a lot too where I could in these vids.

I'll have a look at those vids!