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Please fix biotic throw ( and other biotic related discutions )


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D.Kain wrote...

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I think the way it was handled in the first "force unleashed" was the way to go

sure the overall gameplay is completely different but the idea behind it was good. CERTAIN enemies are immune to CERTAIN things and one could always use creative ways to still affect the "immune" enemies effectively.

I was expecting something better for ME3 but it looks like the gameplay, in that respect, remains identical aside for the enemies who have physical shields that need to be pulled off of their bodies which I am actually completely ok with


Force unleashed did a good job? It made no sense too. I could throw a rancor but couldn't push a droid with a shield that was 3 times smaller. Imo that shield would just fly away WITH the droid.


YES!

think about. Starkiller has enough juice to bring down a star destoryer. A Rancor gets tossed around by him as if he was a ragdoll and so should ANY droid BUT...thanks to whatever technobabble some droids were immune to direct applications of the force but ONLY to direct applications of it thus picking up a log and tossing it at those driods still knocked them over as if they were regular storm troopers.

I still think devenses should work in a rock paper scissor way and immunities should be used intelligently not dispenses to everyone who happens to have a kinetic barrier

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crimzontearz wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I think the way it was handled in the first "force unleashed" was the way to go

sure the overall gameplay is completely different but the idea behind it was good. CERTAIN enemies are immune to CERTAIN things and one could always use creative ways to still affect the "immune" enemies effectively.

I was expecting something better for ME3 but it looks like the gameplay, in that respect, remains identical aside for the enemies who have physical shields that need to be pulled off of their bodies which I am actually completely ok with


Force unleashed did a good job? It made no sense too. I could throw a rancor but couldn't push a droid with a shield that was 3 times smaller. Imo that shield would just fly away WITH the droid.


YES!

think about. Starkiller has enough juice to bring down a star destoryer. A Rancor gets tossed around by him as if he was a ragdoll and so should ANY droid BUT...thanks to whatever technobabble some droids were immune to direct applications of the force but ONLY to direct applications of it thus picking up a log and tossing it at those driods still knocked them over as if they were regular storm troopers.

I still think devenses should work in a rock paper scissor way and immunities should be used intelligently not dispenses to everyone who happens to have a kinetic barrier


I play D&D sometimes, and when I do I make characters that can kill ANYTHING and ANYTIME. Usually I play psionics or warlocks and I will sacrifise skill points, health, feats, anything that is needed just to know that I can damage ANY type of enemy with very high damage output and that I don't need to have a weapon or armor to do so. This is basically my game phylosophy. I don't want rock, paper, scisors I'm ok with knowing that I can lose to any enemy, but at the same time I can defeat any enemy.

When I stand infront of a dragon that I know will surely kill me if we get into a fight, it's still nice to know that the dragon is going to miss a wing and a limb or two after the fight.

And it's always nice to know that beeing gaged or bound can't disable your abileties.


I basically want to be as close as posible to my usual build. The closest seems Adept, but Adept lacks some things.

Modifié par D.Kain, 30 août 2011 - 03:13 .


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isnt D&D a card game? how do you rip off dragons wings in a card game?

anyways what you just wrote about D&D seems kindof cool. (good thing my buddies cant see me writing that.)

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 30 août 2011 - 03:34 .


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The Spamming Troll wrote...

isnt D&D a card game? how do you rip off dragons wings in a card game?

anyways what you just wrote about D&D seems kindof cool. (good thing my buddies cant see me writing that.)


Not exacly a card game. It's more of a roleplay, it's all in the talk. All the stats are just written down. 

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isnt D&D a card game? how do you rip off dragons wings in a card game?

anyways what you just wrote about D&D seems kindof cool. (good thing my buddies cant see me writing that.)


I..... I.... I just had to choke back a tear of anguish to hear my beloved D&D just be thought of or called a "card game".
Years of warm memories as a little girl huddled around the dinner table with my brother, uncle and dad with my colored pencils, character sheet, rulebooks and pweter figurine of Pika the clumsy Kender rogue.. just.. nearly stomped on by that remark... it breaks my heart to think someone believes D&D is a.... a..... card game like that abomination Magic the Gatering or some such. :crying:

I haven't the heart now to explain what D&D is.

(On a related note... poor Pika died after falling off a high cliff ledge whilst trying to sneak into a dragon's lair... didn't even have the grace to die at the hands.. claws.. whatever.. of the dragon... instead she plumetted downward and smashed face first into the pile of gold below, shattering every bone in her tiny little body.... and after the party slew the dragon they merely scraped poor Pika's corpse off the shiny gold, tossed it aside and looted the place... hmph. Suffice it to say my next character was an evil elf who tried to rob the party in their sleep... only to get caught and have her throat cut by the party and left in a ditch for wolves... sigh...

Wow... I just realized.... my family did awful things to my character for me being a 8 or 9 year old. :blink: )

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Hathur wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

isnt D&D a card game? how do you rip off dragons wings in a card game?

anyways what you just wrote about D&D seems kindof cool. (good thing my buddies cant see me writing that.)


I..... I.... I just had to choke back a tear of anguish to hear my beloved D&D just be thought of or called a "card game".
Years of warm memories as a little girl huddled around the dinner table with my brother, uncle and dad with my colored pencils, character sheet, rulebooks and pweter figurine of Pika the clumsy Kender rogue.. just.. nearly stomped on by that remark... it breaks my heart to think someone believes D&D is a.... a..... card game like that abomination Magic the Gatering or some such. :crying:

I haven't the heart now to explain what D&D is.

(On a related note... poor Pika died after falling off a high cliff ledge whilst trying to sneak into a dragon's lair... didn't even have the grace to die at the hands.. claws.. whatever.. of the dragon... instead she plumetted downward and smashed face first into the pile of gold below, shattering every bone in her tiny little body.... and after the party slew the dragon they merely scraped poor Pika's corpse off the shiny gold, tossed it aside and looted the place... hmph. Suffice it to say my next character was an evil elf who tried to rob the party in their sleep... only to get caught and have her throat cut by the party and left in a ditch for wolves... sigh...

Wow... I just realized.... my family did awful things to my character for me being a 8 or 9 year old. :blink: )


oh boy. im not sure i know the difference between D&D and magic the gathering.

so with D&D, you actually create a player character? is there a "world" you play in or a game board or something? im gonna have to look up youtube videos on D&D now. damnit and i wanted to go to bed now too.

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oh boy. im not sure i know the difference between D&D and magic the gathering.

so with D&D, you actually create a player character? is there a "world" you play in or a game board or something? im gonna have to look up youtube videos on D&D now. damnit and i wanted to go to bed now too.


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Damnit.. being trolled and I fell for it... well, serves me right.

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im trolling?

anyways i just looked up a tutorial vid. seems interesting enough. its like dragon age, but you play it with dice and paper.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 30 août 2011 - 04:32 .


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^ Lol I don't even know honestly.. I can't tell if you're being serious or not. I apologize if you're not trolling, heh.

I've had a long, weird, day.. think I'll call it a night :blush:

Modifié par Hathur, 30 août 2011 - 04:31 .


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Haha, nice conversation there. Spamming Troll you should gather with your friends and play some time, it's actually very fun! :)

Hathur, you have an interesting family. :)

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hehe I played the same way...only I played Dark Ages vampire, Vampire the Masquerade and Ars Magica and
later Vampire the Requiem and all NWOD games (pure awesome)
ahem...anyways

the point remains, a lot of people feel that the overly generous application of immunities (especially on insanity) kills the feel of the adept...and I can see why