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[Reno_Tarshil]

Just completed Legacy for the third time and it's still just as new and exciting as the last 2 times I completed it. Man I really hope the next story driven dlc is just as awesome.

[IanPolaris]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Just completed Legacy for the third time and it's still just as new and exciting as the last 2 times I completed it. Man I really hope the next story driven dlc is just as awesome.

 
I did it twice. Once with Anders and warden-sibling and once without.  Replaying it doesn't appeal to me (like root canals don't appeal to me either).  There simply isn't enough difference to make replay worth it IMHO.

-Polaris

[Cutlass Jack]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Just completed Legacy for the third time and it's still just as new and exciting as the last 2 times I completed it. Man I really hope the next story driven dlc is just as awesome.

Yeah they did a great job with it. There's an amazing amount of replay value with all the different character and act possibilities. Was nice to finally have a DLC that not only lets you bring your existing companions but lets them speak too.

Looking forward to the next story DLC. But not at all interested in the latest Item pack. Bleh.

[Reno_Tarshil]

the item pack imo are just cosmetic stuff that you dont need for the game but are nice to have. They also provide companions with jewelry and new weapons, should they need it.

[Jonathan Seagull]

I actually just finished it myself for the second time. I still haven't brought Anders (I was already bringing Carver and Sebastian, who were both new for this playthrough, so I decided to save Anders for a future run). I've brought Aveline with me both times, and it actually seemed like she had more to say this time. Maybe because she spoke up during the Tethras stuff instead of Varric. I actually wound up making the same choices (Larius all the way) this time as I did my first, because it was in character. I'm pretty sure my remaining playthroughs will all make different choices.

[Reno_Tarshil]

Anders, Sibling and Varric brought the most out of the dlc.

[jamesp81]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Anders, Sibling and Varric brought the most out of the dlc.

This

Although I'm curious if Fenris would have any comments about Corypheus being a magister and all.

Best line of Legacy:

Hawke: With a name like that, this guy is sure to go MUHAHAHA at some point, I'm certain of it.

[LobselVith8]

IanPolaris wrote...

Replaying it doesn't appeal to me (like root canals don't appeal to me either).

I felt the same way, Ian. Neither choice changes the storyline, regardless of who Hawke sides with - it still has Hawke letting a possessed Warden go free into the world because, once again, he's inactive. It didn't make me feel that the developers addresses the concerns about the narrative and the significance of choice when neither choice matters in providing virtually the same outcome - which was the problem that people had with the ending to Dragon Age 2.

[Prince_12]

jamesp81 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Anders, Sibling and Varric brought the most out of the dlc.

This

Although I'm curious if Fenris would have any comments about Corypheus being a magister and all.

Best line of Legacy:

Hawke: With a name like that, this guy is sure to go MUHAHAHA at some point, I'm certain of it.

And you forgot Varric's line to Corypheus:

If he pulls a dragon from his ass, I'm leaving.

I just couldn't stop laughing there:D

[dirk5027]

LobselVith8 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Replaying it doesn't appeal to me (like root canals don't appeal to me either).

I felt the same way, Ian. Neither choice changes the storyline, regardless of who Hawke sides with - it still has Hawke letting a possessed Warden go free into the world because, once again, he's inactive. It didn't make me feel that the developers addresses the concerns about the narrative and the significance of choice when neither choice matters in providing virtually the same outcome - which was the problem that people had with the ending to Dragon Age 2.

I found the whole thing to be bland and boring, everyone is correct about party banter but otherwise completely uneventful
Final Boss...running around in circles didn't do it for me
And why do we have to click a statue anyway, you fight the carta, loot the body, you find a map...Hawke says"i'm getting to the bottom of this once and for all" BOOM Legacy is in your journal you can go anytime

[Cutlass Jack]

Prince_12 wrote...

And you forgot Varric's line to Corypheus:

If he pulls a dragon from his ass, I'm leaving.

I just couldn't stop laughing there:D

I think one of my favorite bits was Varric and Isabela having a drinking game when ever they saw something repeating in the environments. (Broken Pillars I believe)

[jamesp81]

Prince_12 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Anders, Sibling and Varric brought the most out of the dlc.

This

Although I'm curious if Fenris would have any comments about Corypheus being a magister and all.

Best line of Legacy:

Hawke: With a name like that, this guy is sure to go MUHAHAHA at some point, I'm certain of it.

And you forgot Varric's line to Corypheus:

If he pulls a dragon from his ass, I'm leaving.

I just couldn't stop laughing there:D

Agreed:lol:  I lol'd when I heard that the first time.

[jamesp81]

LobselVith8 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Replaying it doesn't appeal to me (like root canals don't appeal to me either).

I felt the same way, Ian. Neither choice changes the storyline, regardless of who Hawke sides with - it still has Hawke letting a possessed Warden go free into the world because, once again, he's inactive. It didn't make me feel that the developers addresses the concerns about the narrative and the significance of choice when neither choice matters in providing virtually the same outcome - which was the problem that people had with the ending to Dragon Age 2.

I think the final choice is kind of a test of a player's loyalty to his parents, or to himself and his sibling.  Janeka threatened Hawke and sibling by sending the Carta after them.  Larius secured Malcolm's cooperation in building the prison by threatening Leandra.

It's really a choice of which of those bothers you the most.  I found Larius a little more palatable because I believed him when he said he'd never actually carry out the threat, and imprisoning Corypheus definitely needed to be done.  Janeka, however, is not unsympathetic herself.  She was being influenced by Corypheus against her will.

[Reno_Tarshil]

I thought Janeka was a crazy **** who needed to die. Don't get me wrong though, What Larius did almost erased Hawke from history.

[jamesp81]

Another great bit of voice acting from Legacy:

MaleHawke (just after Corypheus is released): You are a darkspawn. Dark. Spawn. Ravaging the Deep Roads, spreading the Blight. Does this ring a bell?

[dgcatanisiri]

jamesp81 wrote...
I think the final choice is kind of a test of a player's loyalty to his parents, or to himself and his sibling.  Janeka threatened Hawke and sibling by sending the Carta after them.  Larius secured Malcolm's cooperation in building the prison by threatening Leandra.

It's really a choice of which of those bothers you the most.  I found Larius a little more palatable because I believed him when he said he'd never actually carry out the threat, and imprisoning Corypheus definitely needed to be done.  Janeka, however, is not unsympathetic herself.  She was being influenced by Corypheus against her will.

Honestly, I don't really hold a lot of sympathy for Janeka. Maybe it's just because that we don't get to know her prior to the whole 'call of Corypheus' thing, but she just comes across as yet another bat guano mage (and I say this as a mage supporter). Maybe it's not her so much, actually, as the other Wardens who so blindly follow her. I realize it was probably just them being influenced to a degree as well by the call, but that it's that lack of action from the people who are supposed to be the experts in things darkspawn who don't even blink at her actions that makes it easy for me to choose Larius over Janeka. With the darkspawn, there can be no compromise. It's why the Architect's head is on a pike outside of Warden's Keep rather than attached to the rest of his body in my Awakening playthroughs.

Also, I like to think that there is more of a chance that the Wardens will recognize something is off if Larius, the Warden Commander who departed for his Calling, coming back to them rather than if Janeka goes back to them.

[Sister Helen]

Larius said he didn't * have * to harm Leandra, as Hawke's dad cooperated, and it never got to that point where he had to carry out the threat. I fully believe that he intended to make good on the threat to Leandra if Hawke's dad hadn't toed the line.

I found both Larius and Janeka unsympathetic as potential allies. But Janeka's "Oh, Sh**!" line at the end had me roaring.

Modifié par Sister Helen, 30 août 2011 - 10:39 .

[Reno_Tarshil]

"I got a bad feeling about this." Hawke approching Malvernus

Me: Me too Hawke, me too.

[Xilizhra]

LobselVith8 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Replaying it doesn't appeal to me (like root canals don't appeal to me either).

I felt the same way, Ian. Neither choice changes the storyline, regardless of who Hawke sides with - it still has Hawke letting a possessed Warden go free into the world because, once again, he's inactive. It didn't make me feel that the developers addresses the concerns about the narrative and the significance of choice when neither choice matters in providing virtually the same outcome - which was the problem that people had with the ending to Dragon Age 2.

I just realized you've never played Mass Effect.
Bioware doesn't, and for that matter, can't make significant storyline changes in DLCs. It would be unfair to the people who don't want to expand the core game. Leliana's Song, Golems of Amgarrak, Witch Hunt... none of them really change the world that much, and neither did any of the ME story DLCs. It may be unfortunate, but this isn't a DA2-specific problem.

[jamesp81]

Sister Helen wrote...

Larius said he didn't * have * to harm Leandra, as Hawke's dad cooperated, and it never got to that point where he had to carry out the threat. I fully believe that he intended to make good on the threat to Leandra if Hawke's dad hadn't toed the line.

I found both Larius and Janeka unsympathetic as potential allies. But Janeka's "Oh, Sh**!" line at the end had me roaring.

I seem to recall Larius specifically saying "NO! I would never" when Hawke questioned him on it.

[Reno_Tarshil]

jamesp81 wrote...

Sister Helen wrote...

Larius said he didn't * have * to harm Leandra, as Hawke's dad cooperated, and it never got to that point where he had to carry out the threat. I fully believe that he intended to make good on the threat to Leandra if Hawke's dad hadn't toed the line.

I found both Larius and Janeka unsympathetic as potential allies. But Janeka's "Oh, Sh**!" line at the end had me roaring.

I seem to recall Larius specifically saying "NO! I would never" when Hawke questioned him on it.

A lot of people will quickly change their minds when being confronted.

[GavrielKay]

There is at least one point in Legacy where Hawke can apparently be proactive, because I as the player failed to be... going back for Malvernus. There were all those hints in codices and I just wandered through the whole prison thinking, hmm, I wonder where that guy is. But I never went backwards, even when I got to the end on the first playthrough and never ran into him. So, you can in fact play a bit of a proactive Hawke there, who knows something is amiss and actually looks for it, even if it means going back the way she came.

[Karibe]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Sister Helen wrote...

Larius said he didn't * have * to harm Leandra, as Hawke's dad cooperated, and it never got to that point where he had to carry out the threat. I fully believe that he intended to make good on the threat to Leandra if Hawke's dad hadn't toed the line.

I found both Larius and Janeka unsympathetic as potential allies. But Janeka's "Oh, Sh**!" line at the end had me roaring.

I seem to recall Larius specifically saying "NO! I would never" when Hawke questioned him on it.

A lot of people will quickly change their minds when being confronted.

And the Gray Warden motto is "What ever it takes" against the Darkspawn is it not? ;o

[naledgeborn]

I went with Larius and then did a face/heel when Janeka exposed Larius. I think she would be a better antagonist anyway. Larius is a threat you see coming 10 miles away. Janeka would be a more subtle antagonist since she looks... normal.