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#26
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Zanallen wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Whereas I see the Warden swooping in all stealthy and silent-like to save Hawke at a moment of impending doom. (S)he vanquishes the foe, and recedes into the shadows, giving Hawke a brief nod before disappearing into the night altogether.

And if you have your sound turned up, you may hear the distinct clink of a grappling hook, and the whoosh of air as the Warden zips off to resume his/her quiet vigilance over the city.


That would be terrible. The warden can be Solomon Grundy though.

But my Warden had better fashion sense. Image IPB

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whykikyouwhy wrote...
But my Warden had better fashion sense. Image IPB


That isn't possible: fc02.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/263/8/d/Solomon_Grundy_by_chriss2d.jpg

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Can I be teh manbatz

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Zanallen wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...
But my Warden had better fashion sense. Image IPB


That isn't possible: fc02.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/263/8/d/Solomon_Grundy_by_chriss2d.jpg

Well, he's not wearing any gleaming elven armor, but ok.

My mental image of the lumbering one was always from the Superfriends cartoon.

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Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Can I be teh manbatz


You mean Man-Hawke. That is a corrupted hawk that has become humanoid through the manipulations of Corypheus.

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Now I'm intrigued....

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Well, he's not wearing any gleaming elven armor, but ok.

My mental image of the lumbering one was always from the Superfriends cartoon.


My iconic image is from that Cartoon Network commerical where he claims that he wants pants.

www.youtube.com/watch

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

For one thing, Warden most people's took out Flemmeth and then Hawke [did what he did].

So if the Warden doesn't knock out Hawkes teeth I would be disappointed.



For starters, yes. :devil:

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Zanallen wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Well, he's not wearing any gleaming elven armor, but ok.

My mental image of the lumbering one was always from the Superfriends cartoon.


My iconic image is from that Cartoon Network commerical where he claims that he wants pants.

www.youtube.com/watch

Oh touché, ser. Touché.

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First Off, if the Warden appears, and we can't control him/her, people are going to be pissed.

i don't know if the warden will appear in DA2, given that ML Said that they didn't wanted to mess with the face of people's warden, so, i would assume they mean DA3, but then again they keep saying that it isn't all that likely that Hawke and/or Warden will the protagonist for DA3, but then they hinted at PAX that they could meet,
They have already said that Hawke's story wasn't quite over yet, but i don't know about the warden, somewhere i read that it was over, in another place i read that they said that it wasn't.... Agh, is a mess.

the thing is, when people say "We want to see the warden again", they do not mean by a cameo, or a mention by some lame NPC, they want to play him/her again, and like i said, if we can't control the warden, people will be pissed.

BUT, if they make the warden protagonist, and (s)he is not voiced, people(who don't want silent protagonist) will be pissed.

BUT, if Hawke appears(in DA3), and the warden doesn't, people are going to be pissed.

And, if neither appears, people will be pissed.

And, they can't put romancable companions back WITHOUT the protagonist, if they do, people will be pissed.

So..... basically, no matter what they do, they're F***ed.

They're only way to not pissed people off(much), would be playing as the warden again, with voice, along with Hawke, but i don't think they will put that much effort in this, even less if they have something like 2 years in development.

Modifié par csfteeeer, 30 août 2011 - 11:45 .


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csfteeeer wrote...

First Off, if the Warden appears, and we can't control him/her, people are going to be pissed.

i don't know if the warden will appear in DA2, given that ML Said that they didn't wanted to mess with the face of people's warden, so, i would assume they mean DA3, but then again they keep saying that it isn't all that likely that Hawke and/or Warden will the protagonist for DA3, but then they hinted at PAX that they could meet,
They have already said that Hawke's story wasn't quite over yet, but i don't know about the warden, somewhere i read that it was over, in another place i read that they said that it wasn't.... Agh, is a mess.

the thing is, when people say "We want to see the warden again", they do not mean by a cameo, or a mention by some lame NPC, they want to play him/her again, and like i said, if we can't control the warden, people will be pissed.

BUT, if they make the warden protagonist, and (s)he is not voiced, people(who don't want silent protagonist) will be pissed.

BUT, if Hawke appears(in DA3), and the warden doesn't, people are going to be pissed.

And, if neither appears, people will be pissed.

And, they can't put romancable companions back WITHOUT the protagonist, if they do, people will be pissed.

So..... basically, no matter what they do, they're F***ed.

They're only way to not pissed people off(much), would be playing as the warden again, with voice, along with Hawke, but i don't think they will put that much effort in this, even less if they have something like 2 years in development.


People will whine about everything Bioware do no matter what they do on the internet. I mean go on the Mass Effect part of the forum and you have people whining about the omni-blade in Mass Effect 3, what? And I remembered someone on here complaining that Cassandra wasn't holding the report she says she recieved at the start of Legacy...:blink: But yeah, Hawke and the Warden, cameos in DA3 at best I'm thinking. I'm okay with this.

Modifié par PresidentCowboy, 30 août 2011 - 11:50 .


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PresidentCowboy wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

First Off, if the Warden appears, and we can't control him/her, people are going to be pissed.

i don't know if the warden will appear in DA2, given that ML Said that they didn't wanted to mess with the face of people's warden, so, i would assume they mean DA3, but then again they keep saying that it isn't all that likely that Hawke and/or Warden will the protagonist for DA3, but then they hinted at PAX that they could meet,
They have already said that Hawke's story wasn't quite over yet, but i don't know about the warden, somewhere i read that it was over, in another place i read that they said that it wasn't.... Agh, is a mess.

the thing is, when people say "We want to see the warden again", they do not mean by a cameo, or a mention by some lame NPC, they want to play him/her again, and like i said, if we can't control the warden, people will be pissed.

BUT, if they make the warden protagonist, and (s)he is not voiced, people(who don't want silent protagonist) will be pissed.

BUT, if Hawke appears(in DA3), and the warden doesn't, people are going to be pissed.

And, if neither appears, people will be pissed.

And, they can't put romancable companions back WITHOUT the protagonist, if they do, people will be pissed.

So..... basically, no matter what they do, they're F***ed.

They're only way to not pissed people off(much), would be playing as the warden again, with voice, along with Hawke, but i don't think they will put that much effort in this, even less if they have something like 2 years in development.


People will whine about everything Bioware do no matter what they do on the internet. I mean go on the Mass Effect part of the forum and you have people whining about the omni-blade in Mass Effect 3, what? And I remembered someone on here complaining that Cassandra wasn't holding the report she says she recieved at the start of Legacy...:blink:


i said, that basically everything they do(with this), will get them whiny people, but the one that will get them LESS people to whine, would the one having hawke and warden(with voice) as protagonist, but again, i don't think they will put that much effort in it.

EDIT: Also, about the Omni-Blade thing, i'm also a little bothered by that, What. the HELL. is so special about that thing that they're pushing it so hard?

EDIT 2: and the Legacy thing, there will always people out who will say nonsense like that, the key, is whether they are in the minority or not.

Modifié par csfteeeer, 30 août 2011 - 11:55 .


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Maybe he will meet the warden while he goes for his calling? Battling huge numbers of Darkspawn?

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csfteeeer wrote...

i said, that basically everything they do(with this), will get them whiny people, but the one that will get them LESS people to whine, would the one having hawke and warden(with voice) as protagonist, but again, i don't think they will put that much effort in it.

EDIT: Also, about the Omni-Blade thing, i'm also a little bothered by that, What. the HELL. is so special about that thing that they're pushing it so hard?

EDIT 2: and the Legacy thing, there will always people out who will say nonsense like that, the key, is whether they are in the minority or not.


Having Hawke and the Warden as protagonists would be way too much work what with trying to have the Warden import properly and record umpteen different voices for him/her, writing them into the story when it's supposed to be another protag's story... just nah... I think the least whining in this situation would be a new protagonist but concentrating on making it a good game with good gameplay, story, characters, choices/impact, yadda yadda and not cramming in as much fan service as possible.

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csfteeeer wrote...

First Off, if the Warden appears, and we can't control him/her, people are going to be pissed.

i don't know if the warden will appear in DA2, given that ML Said that they didn't wanted to mess with the face of people's warden, so, i would assume they mean DA3, but then again they keep saying that it isn't all that likely that Hawke and/or Warden will the protagonist for DA3, but then they hinted at PAX that they could meet,
They have already said that Hawke's story wasn't quite over yet, but i don't know about the warden, somewhere i read that it was over, in another place i read that they said that it wasn't.... Agh, is a mess.

the thing is, when people say "We want to see the warden again", they do not mean by a cameo, or a mention by some lame NPC, they want to play him/her again, and like i said, if we can't control the warden, people will be pissed.

BUT, if they make the warden protagonist, and (s)he is not voiced, people(who don't want silent protagonist) will be pissed.

BUT, if Hawke appears(in DA3), and the warden doesn't, people are going to be pissed.

And, if neither appears, people will be pissed.

And, they can't put romancable companions back WITHOUT the protagonist, if they do, people will be pissed.

So..... basically, no matter what they do, they're F***ed.

They're only way to not pissed people off(much), would be playing as the warden again, with voice, along with Hawke, but i don't think they will put that much effort in this, even less if they have something like 2 years in development.



Well... what if they had a character cuztomization pop up when the Warden shows up?  Like at first you see him/her with a hood/helmet.  Then when he approaches Hawke he starts to take of his headpiece and then the character creator pops up for what the warden looks like.  The voices could be the ones you chose for them in Origins for when they shout out random battle cries.

'Course for those whose warden died they just won't show up at all, or perhaps the Orlesian Warden from awakenings can show up instead if Origins Warden didn't survive.  And since they said that it isn't likely that the graphics will change from DA2 the look can carry over to DA3 if he/she shows up there.

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Mirror, distorted image of figures behind it; MP of new game in front. Silence heard by the player but MP heard or more specifically responding to something we can't ourselves hear [else telepathy another possability] coming from the other side of the mirror. Mirror is portal that dark figure(s) throw something through that portal, after the one sided dialogue or cinematic responding to the telepathic connection towards the people on the other side, The item thrown through the mirror/portal somehow validates who it is on the other side [that of the Warden and/or Hawke alongside]. That might be away to do it though I can't say I would be happy about that. The mirror itself can be the one either Morrigane stepped through or the one Merrill rebuilt.

Just example of distored mirror image with reflection of something other side cant make out what.

http://www.iglucruis...ette-mirror.jpg

Else simple behind curtain trick

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Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 31 août 2011 - 03:40 .


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Frankly I'd like it if you didn't see the Warden's face just a shadow figure gesturing for Hawke to come and Hawke saying "You're the Hero of Fereldan" before falling the shadow to places unknown.

Then something explodes and kills both of them.

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lol Hawke walks into a room, cinematic switches to Isabella and gang chatting, a minute later Hawke steps out says had nice talk with Warden then game carries on... I chew on some electrical cables out of rage and die.

Alternativley the Warden shows up and his/her head is replaced with 'The Laughing Man face'
I then proceed to jump out of my window out of sheer disbelief and splat on the ground.

I hope Bioware do a lot better job than the examples I gave, one that doesn't lead to a gruesome end.

P.s These two examples are what not to do because they are so tacky would result in /facepalm.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 septembre 2011 - 05:00 .


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I will readily accept my Warden/s showing up in some form or another, provided they can avoid the usual Wardens-who-aren't-the-player-character flaw of being pants on head incompetent morons. If they do, I'd squee at seeing them again. It's personally preferable to 'and then s/he inexplicably disappeared'.

As for what would happen if she met Hawke, who knows. I can't imagine they'd fight, though it wouldn't be much of a battle if they did, what with my warrior Warden suddenly being incapable of recognizing the hilt from the pointy end of her dual-wielded swords or remembering how a longbow works.

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Let dragon age 3 feature Warden, Hawke, and OGB as three playable characters. The whole giving the warden a voice thing won't bother me. You can find a neutral enough voice actor to cover any Warden you may have played as whether human or elf or dwarf. Frankly I just wanna see my warden again I miss him Image IPB

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I suspect, if you see them together, it will be at a distance. More likely there will be rumors of the two doing something, or meeting each other, somewhere impressive.

(in fact, it was stated that you'd not meet each other "In Character", with you playing either/or, but that you'd probably hear about them meeting.)

Modifié par elearon1, 31 août 2011 - 04:09 .


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elearon1 wrote...

(in fact, it was stated that you'd not meet each other "In Character", with you playing either/or, but that you'd probably hear about them meeting.)


Oh my word, can you imagine the raging? :P

"Hello DA3 protagonist" "Hello" "You'll never guess who just got together for brunch and a chat in Denerim :o"

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So what happens if your Warden happens to be a Dalish elf and Hawke killed all of his clan after Merrill decides to go talk to the demon to fix the mirror?

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Honestly, I hope they don't cheat on this one. I think it's already got too much hype for them to pull a fast one on us and just have him alluded to.

Personally I think he/she should be voiced and the cameo should feel as though it was done right and not just some div in armour turning up for five seconds to remind us 'swooping is bad'. Although if he/she does say "if I hear that 'swooping is bad' one more time, I will punch him out", then that would be awesome.

At the least I would like the cameo to be more than a brief conversation. But what I'd really like to see is the Warden as a companion, even if it was just as a temporary one. I wouldn't mind as others have said if he/she provided a possible boss fight either.

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I have the perfect solution however when I was looking over images of DA2 in order to make a flash version telling how it would work.. I realised why bother, I lost most of my interest after DA2 and looking at those [pasty faced, rubber jawed, plastic hair characters in DA2 comprised of an emo, a retard, 80s closet homosexual in his leather jacket showing chest hair and overcompensating with a giant crossbow for his other inadequacies plus a terrorist and a skank all following errand boy hawke inside a bland and lifeless setting with over the top dbz effects] < Sorry but thats the effect of looking at screenshots of your new style which you asked for with "when look at DA2 you know it's DA2" it put me off bothering to make the flash and I just ended up thinking "Ewwww why bother, now I remember why I sold the game".

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