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[Huntress]

I don't want to play as the warden in DA2 or DA3. That being said.. cameo of my Female-Amell-warden would rule!!!!!!!! She might even has a job for my hawke!


If the warden is going to look horribad add a full cover helmet, that way i do not /wrist in real life. rofl.

can't wait for hawke and my warden to meet!

Modifié par Huntress, 31 août 2011 - 05:19 .

[Dormiglione]

If we cant play the warden than its better when he/she doesnt show up. I love DAO and every warden that i have build and played, but if the warden has just an appereance like Leliana in DA2, then please, leave the warden buried in DAO.

As for DA2, no thanks. Didnt like Hawke, didnt like DA2, so for me its not a big loss if i never meet Hawke again. The best solution for DA3 is to have a new hero / heroine. It doesnt care how Hawke or the Warden would appear, there is no solution that satisfies everyone. The time invested to make an appereance of the Warden or Hawke should be better invested in the main story, companions backstory, romances, environments, conversation, armors and so on.

[Dormiglione]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Dormiglione wrote...

It doesnt care how Hawke or the Warden would appear, there is no solution that satisfies everyone. The time invested to make an appereance of the Warden or Hawke should be better invested in the main story, companions backstory, romances, environments, conversation, armors and so on.

YES, exactly! Like I said, it's Dragon Age 3 not Fan Service Age 3.

IMO there is only one way out of the dilemma. Even if it hurts for the most players, forget about the Warden and Hawke. Keep them in good memory, but there is no reason to carry them over.

Also the cameo appearance of a DAO / DA2 character like Leliana, Sten, Fenris, Merril, it makes no sense. Just for nostalgia?

Little example: Leliana was my love interest in DAO. Now, the appearance in DA2, i played Hawke with the knowledge of the Warden about Leliana...? No chance to talk to like my Warden did, because im not the Warden, im Hawke now.

So either its a saga / a series with one protagonist with a story that carries over like Mass Effect or use a complete new protagonist on every new installment. Use Thedas, all races, all about the history of tevinter, orlais, the mages, the templars and you have both: DA3 and Fan Service.

[whykikyouwhy]

I think the cameos are to link the chapters of the DA story together. Characters from DA:O had some significance to the events in Fereldan, thus they would be known, to some degree, by Hawke, even if only as hearsay or rumor.

I figure that the Warden may not so much make an appearance in full vivid clarity (though I like my Gotham City idea, but thatKs just me), but will be heavily referenced or mentioned somewhere. I just look at it all as bits and pieces of a large puzzle. We have different heroes/proagonists because each has a role to play in the larger events of the world, not just one specific area.

[Salaya]

 Well, that's bad news for me. When I heared that Hawke would appear again in some way or another, I was hoping that Bioware let us kill the character. But it sems that they like their creation ^_^u

Seeing that, I'm scared they use the Warden to some of the things hinted here: some kind of boss or villain. But other scenarios look horrible to me... sigh

Bioware, give us a DLC to import our Warden and turn Hawke into a villain!

[jlb524]

I don't want the Warden to appear, b/c then I can pretend my Amell Warden is off doing something she'd actually do...like setting Templars on fire.

[Eyeofanger]

csfteeeer wrote...

First Off, if the Warden appears, and we can't control him/her, people are going to be pissed.

i don't know if the warden will appear in DA2, given that ML Said that they didn't wanted to mess with the face of people's warden, so, i would assume they mean DA3, but then again they keep saying that it isn't all that likely that Hawke and/or Warden will the protagonist for DA3, but then they hinted at PAX that they could meet,
They have already said that Hawke's story wasn't quite over yet, but i don't know about the warden, somewhere i read that it was over, in another place i read that they said that it wasn't.... Agh, is a mess.

the thing is, when people say "We want to see the warden again", they do not mean by a cameo, or a mention by some lame NPC, they want to play him/her again, and like i said, if we can't control the warden, people will be pissed.

BUT, if they make the warden protagonist, and (s)he is not voiced, people(who don't want silent protagonist) will be pissed.

BUT, if Hawke appears(in DA3), and the warden doesn't, people are going to be pissed.

And, if neither appears, people will be pissed.

And, they can't put romancable companions back WITHOUT the protagonist, if they do, people will be pissed.

So..... basically, no matter what they do, they're F***ed.

They're only way to not pissed people off(much), would be playing as the warden again, with voice, along with Hawke, but i don't think they will put that much effort in this, even less if they have something like 2 years in development.

after playing dragon age 2, I thought that the warden would return in da3 because of what Leliana said in the end that it can't be a coincedent that both hawke and the warden disappeared. But playing as a completely new protagonist in da3 sounds cool but I'd rather play the warden again. if the warden isn't the protagonist for da3 too bad but playing as a whole new protagonist in 3 doesn't sound too bad. I don't know for sure anymore but I think I read that the player has to seek allies in da3 to save the world from itself. An excellent job for the warden.

[dsl08002]

i was hoping that it would be three kind of characters to choose from: Warden, hawke and new character. then you have Three kinds of beginnings of playthrough

[Jonathan Seagull]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
Mirror, distorted image of figures behind it; MP of new game in front.

You know, I actually had a similar idea.  Maybe the Warden can contact Hawke (or the DA3 protagonist, or whoever) through an Eluvian.  Even if the Warden didn't go through the looking glass, he could still be using one.  So you'd see a blurry figure, the shape of which would take into account race, gender, and class.  Maybe they could even try for a rough import of the Warden's actual appearance, and use the blurriness to cover up any changes.  And if it's only one scene, maybe they could actually get different voice actors for each race as well as gender.

And then, depending of course on what the purpose of the scene was and who was present, they could have the Warden reference some of his past choices, e.g. if he romanced someone, maybe whether he defended or annulled the Ferelden Circle, spared or killed the Architect, if he went through the Eluvian, etc.

[Dragoonlordz]

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Modifié par JohnEpler, 01 septembre 2011 - 04:36 .

[Tirfan]

^LOL

Yeah, I want my warden to kill Hawke.

To pop out Hawkes eyes with his thumbs and then ****** on his empty eyesockets, before dishing out the killing blow.

There is pure and distilled AWESOME to you.

[Redcoat]

Tirfan wrote...

^LOL

Yeah, I want my warden to kill Hawke.

To pop out Hawkes eyes with his thumbs and then ****** on his empty eyesockets, before dishing out the killing blow.

There is pure and distilled AWESOME to you.

Well, if my sociopath Warden, Skade Tabris, happened to encounter Hawke, there's no telling what might happen. But the meeting of the Warden and Cassandra might go as follows:

Skade: Hello, Seeker.
Cassandra: What is it, Warden? Where is the Champion? He was to have an audience with me today!
Skade: The Champion won't be joining you, Seeker. He was found a few miles outside of Kirkwall, crushed to death by an ogre.
Cassandra: Don't lie to me, Warden! We found the Champion's body with 104 stab wounds! Explain yourself!
Skade: It was a very stabby ogre.
Cassandra: A...what? And why are you all covered in blood?
Skade: That's not blood, it's the cranberry sauce.
Cassandra: The cranberry sauce?
Skade: No, of course not. Cranberries can't see.

Modifié par Redcoat, 31 août 2011 - 10:31 .

[Dragoonlordz]

"Skade: It was a very stabby ogre." lol

[blothulfur]

Warden: Morning.
Hawke: Top right.
Warden: Pardon.
Hawke: Middle right.
Warden: Sorry mate, not getting your banter.
Hawke: Bottom right.
Warden: Sod off weirdo!

Modifié par blothulfur, 01 septembre 2011 - 12:31 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Tirfan wrote...

^LOL

Yeah, I want my warden to kill Hawke.

To pop out Hawkes eyes with his thumbs and then ****** on his empty eyesockets, before dishing out the killing blow.

There is pure and distilled AWESOME to you.

Was to show that it is possible to have Warden show up in future game without needing to add VO. Notice how in my gif the Warden [he or she and whatever body type race fully clothed so appearence not an issue really] never had to say a single word. Which means it was possible to have Warden back but would just require some out of the box suggestions lol.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 septembre 2011 - 04:53 .

[dsl08002]

it would probably be a encounter in DA3 similar as riordan showed in DAO and there will be a talk regarding peace. And the warden would say in the ending of the conversation:

"hawke.. we must do whatever we can to make peace between templars and the mages, i fear if peace is not established very soon then Thedas and ferelden will be exposed for an even greater threat!
"What? the qunari? says hawke
After a Long pause the hero of ferelden says:
.....................Worse!!!

Modifié par dsl08002, 01 septembre 2011 - 04:44 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Bethany walks into the room:

Bethany "Hawke, I'm seeing someone... He/She is really special to me."
Hawke "Who is this person? Do I know him/her, and how long has this been going on?"
Bethany "A while now."
Hawke "Where is he/she? Can I meet them?"
Bethany "He/She is outside waiting for me, we planned to go see a play tonight called The Taming of the Mage. If you wish I can call him/her in."
Hawke "Ok, It would be nice to meet this person as I don't want a repeat of what happened to your mother."

Bethany shouts through the window for her bf/gf to come in. The handle turns and as opens...

<Character creator kicks in followed by back to scene>

Hawke "Hello there"
Warden "... ... ..." [Silence as the Warden walks upto Hawke]

Warden headbutts Hawke of which Hawke falls to floor crying like a baby, then the Warden drops a peice of paper on Hawkes chest which states...

[Do not bring back people and creatures I have already killed you douché]

Warden and Bethany then walk out door holding hands going "trolololo" at the same time as skipping off into the distance.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 septembre 2011 - 11:09 .

[Pasquale1234]

csfteeeer wrote...

First Off, if the Warden appears, and we can't control him/her, people are going to be pissed.

i don't know if the warden will appear in DA2, given that ML Said that they didn't wanted to mess with the face of people's warden, so, i would assume they mean DA3, but then again they keep saying that it isn't all that likely that Hawke and/or Warden will the protagonist for DA3, but then they hinted at PAX that they could meet,
They have already said that Hawke's story wasn't quite over yet, but i don't know about the warden, somewhere i read that it was over, in another place i read that they said that it wasn't.... Agh, is a mess.

the thing is, when people say "We want to see the warden again", they do not mean by a cameo, or a mention by some lame NPC, they want to play him/her again, and like i said, if we can't control the warden, people will be pissed.

BUT, if they make the warden protagonist, and (s)he is not voiced, people(who don't want silent protagonist) will be pissed.

BUT, if Hawke appears(in DA3), and the warden doesn't, people are going to be pissed.

And, if neither appears, people will be pissed.

And, they can't put romancable companions back WITHOUT the protagonist, if they do, people will be pissed.

So..... basically, no matter what they do, they're F***ed.

They're only way to not pissed people off(much), would be playing as the warden again, with voice, along with Hawke, but i don't think they will put that much effort in this, even less if they have something like 2 years in development.

Yep.

DA2 is *so* different from DAO, it feels like a different genre in a different world.  Why anyone would make such wholesale changes to a very successful franchise is a mystery to me.

Now they have masses of angry, resentful DAO fans along with some folks who seem to prefer the changes made in DA2, and cannot possibly please both camps - at least not within the timeframes and budgets they are working with.

Personally - I don't give a fat rat's patootie what happens to Hawke.  Any motivation she ever had was ripped away by DA2's storyline.  And as much as I adore my warden, I don't think I want to see her again, either, certainly not within the context of DA2.

Of course, if they were to develop a new game with the features and integrity that DAO offered - a heroic epic tale - I would absolutely, positively LOVE to play it as the HoF.

[thats1evildude]

The meeting between Hawke and the Warden would go more like this:

Hawke; What's it like to only be able to speak in short quips and battle cries?
Warden: Can I get you a ladder so you can get off my back?

Modifié par thats1evildude, 01 septembre 2011 - 06:09 .

[Dragoonlordz]

They also said new protaganist for every title so won't be Hawke or Warden as MP. That only leaves cameos, cinematics and companions (unlikely) working together or against each other in some way. It is far more likely that could play as [a] Warden again but not [your DA:O] Warden. Either that or end up playing as a Templar, Nug or random world person.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 septembre 2011 - 06:14 .

[element eater]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Warden headbutts Hawke of which Hawke falls to floor crying like a baby, then the Warden drops a peice of paper on Hawkes chest which states...

[Do not bring back people and creatures I have already killed you douché]

man that was brilliant actualy had me laughing:D

[Mark of the Dragon]

I dont want the warden as a boss battle. I prefer the warden to Hawke anyway. I cant see them fighting unlesss the warden is the one that wins the battle. Also I dont want anyone controlling the Warden but me. If I cant control him then he shouldnt be making huge game changing descisions or affect it to much. I wouldnt mind the cameo as long as its well inplemented. He will probably be wearing a mask as well. I wouldnt mind Hawke leaving with the Warden as well.

[Jestina]

Wardens kill Hawke and the remaining idiot companions from DA2....yes. If Hawke was so good, Duncan would have gotten him to be a Warden, but he didn't.

[Maconbar]

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

I dont want the warden as a boss battle. I prefer the warden to Hawke anyway. I cant see them fighting unlesss the warden is the one that wins the battle. Also I dont want anyone controlling the Warden but me. If I cant control him then he shouldnt be making huge game changing descisions or affect it to much. I wouldnt mind the cameo as long as its well inplemented. He will probably be wearing a mask as well. I wouldnt mind Hawke leaving with the Warden as well.

Without sounding like too much of a hater, I am not certain the they would do a good job with a warden cameo. Having him wear a mask would be awful in my mind, unless he said, "Oh no, it's just that they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future."