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[NazzNAA]

Dwarf Noble - loved it, can't wait to travel back to Orzammar

Human Noble - similarly, can't wait to see Howe again

Dalish Elf - probably a bit biased because I did this first and played this character most like I thought I would behave

Mage - while I enjoyed seeing the tower as it should be, the story here was just okay to me until the very end

City Elf (female) - felt a little rushed and lacking choice, but still okay

Dwarf Commoner - what can I say, the only part of this I enjoyed was the proving



haven't tried the city elf as male yet...doesn't seem gender has too much effect on the others. although, in the human noble origin my father referring to me as "Pup" was a bit annoying while playing as male, but was just horrible playing as female...

[kormesios]

Only played human noble, mage and city elf up to this point; city elf is the first one I tried and completed the game on. 

So far, the mage is by far the best IMHO--more lore, more variety, and more complicated motivation.  I'm also guessing more interaction with the future gameworld.

I did like the idea of city elf, wish it was just a little grittier.

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That's pat of the reason I didn't like human noble, it was too much like the beginning  of every fantasy book ever.
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id have to disagree with that, every fantasy book/game starts out with a human commoner (insert type of farmer here) living in some backwater whos life gets turned around and sets of for a quest to save the world

here we have a human noble who has probably not really experianced any hardship as of yet but then has his life turned upside down and sets out on his quest to become a grey warden

thankyuo Bioware for not doing the "human commoner/farmer" story

havnt yet played all the origins but so far my favourite is the dwarf noble,human noble,city elf....done the human noble story twice now [/quote]

Nah, the human noble is way more common, especially in books and movies (and legends and myths, for that matter).  Heck, a signficant minority of the time that you start with commoners they end up being orphaned nobles anyway.  

I will grant it's nearly as lopsided in computer games, or in works in general in the last 20 years or so--partly because every noble hero cliche has been done.

A noble scion taking over after his father dies and home is lost, specifically, is an ancient theme, and is being re-worked endlessly.  Robin Hood and Zorro and old versions, A Song of Fire and Ice has newer approaches.

[Titius.Vibius]

I liked the dallish elf, I thought they were the most noble of the races but I got the most awesome surprise to learn that they were in fact the minorities and the slaves of Ferelden. I don't know if anyone believes me but with all the racists comments on all sides, I had it morally bound to myself to prove it to the other races that I am also a person. I was glad to fight for the Grey Wardens and obtained a land for my people. huhuhu

[Vicious]

City Elf Female is lols, especially when you initially break out, and the thugs ask you where do you think you're going? The top dialogue option with "Um, I was going to, er... oh sod it." and then your PC chucks a knife through one of the thugs necks - brutal. Brutal funny that is. Excellent. As a male it's really meh though.

That said

EPIC
- Dwarf Noble . You actually FEEL like royalty in this one. Gorim is the man. It immerses you in the Dwarven culture. If you don't play this you're missing out.

- Human Noble . High emotional impact. The way when Duncan says you'd be a good candidate, and your PC's father says "No way this is my kid." things that give the idea that you really are the favorite youngest child of a noble family.

- City Elf FEMALE - Fun and interesting tale of oppression and vengeance. Very Braveheart-ish.

- Dwarf Commoner - Cannot be fully appreciated unless you play Dwarf Noble first. Good Dark intro. Welcome to the Dregs. The Provings are a lot of fun. This one really made me wish my PC was voiced.

- Mage - The Harrowing was GREAT. Meeting Pride at the end made my jaw drop.

After that it went downhill though, and quickly became Jowan's story rather than mine. Add to that there is zero reason for you to be a Grey Warden if you decide to work with Irving the whole time, and Irving says 3+ times that you were working with him, and the leader of the Templars just uses the same dialogue as if you were in league with Jowan, which is even more idiotic because when you meet him again later in the game, he is shown to be a very reasonable leader who sympathizes with the Mages even though the WHOLE TOWER is taken but is unable to understand that you were working with Irving to unearth Jowan's instability? umm yeah.
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- Dalish Elf - Wow this one was just terrible. 99% dungeon crawl. Seemed like it was an afterthought. If it wasn't in the game I would never miss it. And that's a shame because the Dalish elves in-game are pretty interesting.
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P.S. I hate Dwarves.

Modifié par Vicious, 22 novembre 2009 - 03:53 .

[kormesios]

Vicious wrote...
- Human Noble . High emotional impact. The way when Duncan says you'd be a good candidate, and your PC's father says "No way this is my kid." things that give the idea that you really are the favorite youngest child of a noble family.

- Mage - The Harrowing was GREAT. Meeting Pride at the end made my jaw drop.

After that it went downhill though, and quickly became Jowan's story rather than mine. Add to that there is zero reason for you to be a Grey Warden if you decide to work with Irving the whole time, and Irving says 3+ times that you were working with him, and the leader of the Templars just uses the same dialogue as if you were in league with Jowan, which is even more idiotic because when you meet him again later in the game, he is shown to be a very reasonable leader who sympathizes with the Mages even though the WHOLE TOWER is taken but is unable to understand that you were working with Irving to unearth Jowan's instability? umm yeah.

Obviously picking the RPG choices and attitude matter in how much you like them.

As human noble, I had no desire to join the wardens--life was good.  Then disaster strikes, and I *still* have no desire to join the wardens.  I've now got personal business to take care of.  And my father sells me off for no apparent reason: I mean, Duncan doesn't help save my mother and I'm in more danger, and less able to combat Howe, as a warden.  Annoying.  The weakest motivation for joining of the three character origins I played.

As a mage, I wanted to join the wardens anyway.  Life in the tower?  No thanks.  Then, I helped Jowan--seeing a friend, even a fool, made tranquil isn't something my character could abide.  The choices after I found I'd made a mistake flowed pretty well.

[Riona45]

kormesios wrote...


Obviously picking the RPG choices and attitude matter in how much you like them.

Agreed.  I've played the mage origin so far and I loved it.  I was *afraid* at first that it would turn out to be Jowan's story instead of mine, but when I actually played through it I didn't feel that was the case.  I got to be the "rebel" I envisioned my character as, and I top of that I did feel like I was risking everything I had to help a friend*.  I was emotionally moved by the story--for example, I felt disgust at how Lily was treated.  She was the most innocent one there, and it was pretty obvious that she didn't know Jowan was a blood mage, but the templars decided to treat her like she did anyway.



*I can understand the complaint some might bring up that the game "forces" you into the role of his friend, but the same thing happens in every origin.  Each origin, as far as I can tell, contains characters who are "forced" on you as your friends and/or family. 

[kormesios]

Riona45 wrote...
Agreed.  I've played the mage origin so far and I loved it.  I was *afraid* at first that it would turn out to be Jowan's story instead of mine, but when I actually played through it I didn't feel that was the case.  I got to be the "rebel" I envisioned my character as, and I top of that I did feel like I was risking everything I had to help a friend*.  I was emotionally moved by the story--for example, I felt disgust at how Lily was treated.  She was the most innocent one there, and it was pretty obvious that she didn't know Jowan was a blood mage, but the templars decided to treat her like she did anyway.

I definitely felt the "risk" thing going on in my playthrough.  I sensed (well, knew) disaster was coming, and was wondering how hard it would hit.

I disagree a bit about Lily.  Definitely she was not malicious, but helping someone escape was not just illegal, but also a violation of her vows. (She got a incarceration/exile, right?  If she got death, it was too much.)

*I can understand the complaint some might bring up that the game "forces" you into the role of his friend, but the same thing happens in every origin.  Each origin, as far as I can tell, contains characters who are "forced" on you as your friends and/or family. 

I didn't like Jowan much, partly because I knew stuff about him from my first playthrough.  Partly because he did come off as a simpering fool.  So I had to work a bit to come to terms with the friendship.

Eventually,  I decided that there just weren't that many apprentices, and if it wasn't a deep bond of friendship, he was the guy I hung out with in my spare time.

I don't know how I'll react when I see him again.  Kind of looking forward to it.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Vicious wrote...

- Dalish Elf - Wow this one was just terrible. 99% dungeon crawl. Seemed like it was an afterthought. If it wasn't in the game I would never miss it. And that's a shame because the Dalish elves in-game are pretty interesting.
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Funny, when I played it I spent about 15 minutes in the ruins (both times) and like an hour talking to my clan at camp. The origins are all only as deep as you make them. You also should learn to talk to Tamlen at different points of exploring the ruins. There is a lot of depth in the Dalish, people just don't seem to know how to find it.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 22 novembre 2009 - 04:27 .

[Saurel]

NazzNAA wrote...


haven't tried the city elf as male yet...doesn't seem gender has too much effect on the others. .

You get a fairly different perspective. Some characters (the cranky woman with the son) and the shopkeeper saved by the Dalish have a bit more screen time. So it gives a bit of a better perspective of the whole situation.

Anyway

Dwarf Noble Origin to rule them all.

[Serogon]

I enjoyed the Human Noble and the City Elf. The Human Noble added some huge satisfaction finally getting to fight Howe (along with the beginning being great) and I just enjoyed the City Elf.

[KalosCast]

Human Noble I loved because it was so painfully self aware, but my favorite was probably City Elf female, male version isn't nearly as dramatic.

[Mistersunshine]

Both dwarf origins were amazing, and by far the best. I can't decide which of the two I liked more. So those two are tied for first place, for me.



After that, I'd say the city elf in second place.



Then the human noble and the magi, more or less tied for third, but the human noble's a bit better.



Dalish elf is solidly in last place, quite a bit worse than any of the others.

[Fishy]

I loved the human noble the most followed close to the Dwarf noble.It's seem to have the most story related to it realy.

The dalish elf was poor  . .. Oh a mIrror .. ahh oh .. ahhh grey waren  oh ok.
The mage one was okay but nothing spectacular

Haven't played the dwarf commoner.

And the city elf was good until a human noble slapped me in the face... If i'm supposed to be the world savior ... How can that **** knock me with a frigging face clap? lol .. I was pissed off .

The noble Dwarf and human was very much the best.it's felt more authentic and give me more motivation to complete it.

[KalosCast]

I feel kinda bad for whoever wrote the Dalish Elf origin, if it's someone different than the other five. It would've been a pretty good opening to any RPG that wasn't boasting about its openings in the title and had 5 others to compete with.

[Randy1012]

I've only played through three of them so far.

Human Noble: My favorite at this point. Mostly cliched fantasy adventure beginnings (they even make fun of this when Ser Gilmore comments on the giant rats), but also the most emotionally involving of the origins I've experienced. I really did care for the Couslands and was outraged when Howe betrayed them (even though I knew it was going to happen). Finally getting my revenge against Howe towards the end of the game was immensely satisfying. I also think that the presence of the dog in this origin helped elevate it some.

Dalish Elf: What a snoozefest. The Dalish themselves are fascinating, and I felt pretty bad*** at the very beginning when my elf appears out of nowhere with his bow, ready to strike, but everything after that just felt horribly generic and uninvolving. The Human Noble origin took me a good couple of hours; the Dalish Elf only took about an hour. It does earn points over Human Noble for giving the character a better reason for joining the Grey Wardens, however.

Mage: I'm not a huge fan of mages (I've been working on building her into an Arcane Warrior instead), but I really like the spin on magic and how it works in Thedas that BioWare has come up with. My only disappointment is that I already knew Jowan was a blood mage because I'd played through the game once before. However, I am looking forward to meeting up with him again with my character in this playthrough.

Modifié par Randy1083, 22 novembre 2009 - 09:45 .

[Jayce]

 Gotta say the Female City elf and the Dwarf and Human nobles are by far the most interesting. As others have said the Human noble feels the most cliche but it is also the most fleshed out.

The female city elf was a bit weak in places but cracked me up, especially when you get to Ostagar. Talk to King Cailan and pic the blunter "I hate human nobels" options.

The best is when he asks you how you were recruited and you bluntly say to him; "The Arl of Denerim's son raped my cousin... so I killed him." Cailain's reaction is priceless and you can hear the barely supressed groan in Duncan's voice. All in all, a classy bit of dialogue and VA.

[Fulgrim88]

Dwarf noble, by far. I was nothing short of amazed at the detail that went into every part of it.

The dialogues with the option of Gorim talking for you, lower caste dwarves fainting at the sight of you, the Provings...everything.

It's a shame that it's the first Origin i played. After that, all the others seemed somewhat mediocre.



However, there are many good ones, like Human Noble & Female City elf.

I was a bit disappointed by the Mage & especially the Dalish Origin though. All fight no talk makes Jack a dull boy

[asaiasai]

I have 3 complete playthroughs under my belt and am currently working on the 4th, all of my characters are female. I have played a city elf warrior, human noble warrior, elf magi (heal bot finished), working on a human magi (death machine in progress), and i started a dalish rogue (not sure if i will delete it and start a new one), so far each characters origin story has been excellent. The decision is a tough one.

Dalish elf (may restart character)
The scene where you are leaving with Duncan, and your clan is gathered to say good bye, wow. That scene redeemed the weakness of the story line. I just have not found a reason to play a rogue, i know thier are handy, i just have not found a reason to play one. Besides the fact that the Dalish are "hippies" in a communal life style which i heartly approve of.

Magi (one complete and one in progress)
The Cullen moment as he thinks you are a vision and pours his deepest secrets out, much to your embarassment.

City elf
Killing the arl's son (i chose to spare the world from him) for his brutal treatment of your people, sometimes Kharma swings a very big shovel.

Human noble
The betrayal of your family by Howe, felt a bit contrived but as you learn more in the story it becomes clear why Loghain authorized it.

All of the origins were real good, it was a tough decision as the game is still new, as i play more characters to completion i am sure that this list might change.

Asai

[interesting03]

1. Human Noble (It's very basic and cliche, however it's done so well)



2. Dwarf Noble (Most enjoyable)



3. Magi (Greagoir saved this origin. He's awesome)



4. City Elf (Interesting, however it lacks emotion. It's supposed to be dark, but i couldn't connect and ended up finding it rather amusing. Everyone seems like a professional ham in this origin)



5. Dwarf Commoner (Starts off well, but ends up slightly tedious)



6. Dalish ( Surprisingly short, yet still manages to be quite boring)

[Fulgrim88]

Off topic: Great Arl's son you got there, interesting03. Intended?

[interesting03]

Fulgrim88 wrote...

Off topic: Great Arl's son you got there, interesting03. Intended?

Yep, it's great what you can do with the toolset. Sadly my other npc based characters won't update.

[redelephant]

I loved Dwarf Noble, was the first I did, and felt truly betrayed. All the characters and dwarven society in this story were really well thought out; perfect.



I loved Human noble up to the point where I just want to get my mother out of harm's way, but Duncan insists I become a Grey Warden. Now, if Duncan were to help me get my mother out of there, I'd owe him one, and join his order in a split second. But not right there and then, without owing him anything. Plus, he's not saving you, he's just giving you another death. One I wouldn't care about at that point. As a human noble, Alistair hated my guts, for me despising Duncan everytime he came up.



I liked the Dalish opening, but I got the feeling there weren't any outcome-altering decisions. The Urn's guardian asks me if I failed there, but heck, I couldn't decide, the keeper and Duncan did all that for me. I was just there. I *did* like the way the Dalish in the Brecilian forest all acted differently towards me this run.



The City Elf origin I really liked, again; it gives insight into the world, and it gives you a good reason to hate a lot of people and saying 'no' to human lords everywhere, and for instance - skip redcliffe village.

[Dherelv]

Male City Elf

[Shazzie]

As a female, I haven't played any male characters yet so I dunno what the differences between the sexes are, and I haven't done Dwarves yet...



I really liked the Human origin, I thought it was fantastic. I wish there'd been a few minor moments during the rest of the game where you hear about or try to find out about Feargus. However... nothing in any game has ever gotten me quite so immediately and intensely attached to my character as the City Elf story. I had set aside some time to play through all the Origin stories and then go back to my Mage game-in-progress, but by the end of the City Elf origin I was ...ugh ..... ok, I can't even FIND the words to describe how worked up I was, except that I wanted to play through the game so I could kill as many humans as possible. I was furious at my Human for releasing Vaughan from prison, though it was the proper response for her.



Mage origin was pretty good, I liked how Jowan became a part of your story for more than just the origin. Dalish Elf just felt short and rather incomplete. I'm looking forward to trying the Dwarf stories, especially since I've heard good things about the Dwarf Noble one.