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[Inprea]

I've seen a few threads talking about fighting it out with the Reapers and what might need to be done to win. However, I haven't noticed any comments about the probability of the Reapers fighting to their last. Assuming that the Reapers are intelligent beings which from a storyline perspective they're suppose to be why would they fight to their last?

Rather then sticking it out to the last it seems likely that the Reapers would stop, take a look around at some point and say something along the lines of; "Great space Cthulhu we've lost half our numbers! This has never happened before we need to retreat and regroup."

So unless Sheaperd does something to insure that once the races of the galaxy have the upper hand the reapers can't escape then she would end up having to chase them down. Unless there can be a good reason why the reapers would stick it out whenever it's become clear that they may lose.

Then again perhaps the way Sheapard resolves the situation is she baits all the Reapers into the same galaxy and them smashes the hell otu of another mass relay releasing an explosion that blows the reapers, her and everything else in the galaxy to nothing.

Modifié par Inprea, 31 août 2011 - 02:00 .

[armass]

I doubt we will eliminate them for good.

[Chewin]

If the reapers retreated, they would look so humiliated that they probably wouldn't return for another millions of years.

[Inprea]

Chewin3 wrote...

If the reapers retreated, they would look so humiliated that they probably wouldn't return for another millions of years.

That brings up another issue though. Why would they be humiliated? Do they suffer from the same sin of pride that humanity suffers from? If they're victims to the same vices that we are they really need to cut it with this superiority crap.

[Nero Narmeril]

Rather then sticking it out to the last it seems likely that the Reapers would stop, take a look around at some point and say something along the lines of; "Great space Cthulhu we've lost half our numbers! This has never happened before we need to retreat and regroup."

Random Reaper: Boss, we are lost half of us!
Harbinger: We are eternal. Fight again.

[marstor05]

They'll fight and they'll die. Thats the plan.

[King Minos]

Sovereign never gave up, but if you decide to blow up the geth, Legion is smart enough to know when to do a tactical retreat so I'm guessing the Reapers do, I doubt they would feel humiliated.

[Chewin]

marstor05 wrote...

They'll fight and they'll die. Thats the plan.

@Inprea Who knows. It's either one or the other.

Modifié par Chewin3, 31 août 2011 - 02:12 .

[eye basher]

You don't need to destroy all the reapers just enough of them so that there no longer a problem.

[AClockworkMelon]

Inprea wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

If the reapers retreated, they would look so humiliated that they probably wouldn't return for another millions of years.

That brings up another issue though. Why would they be humiliated? Do they suffer from the same sin of pride that humanity suffers from?

Given Harbinger's whiny trash-talk I'd say yes, they do. They like to think they're the beginning and the end, the alpha and the omega, etc, but they're more like us than they'd care to admit. I think it's that pride that will keep them fighting to the end. It won't be until the very end, when we've finally secured their fate that they'll realize just what a threat we are. By then it will be too late.

[Annihilator27]

Nero Narmeril wrote...

Rather then sticking it out to the last it seems likely that the Reapers would stop, take a look around at some point and say something along the lines of; "Great space Cthulhu we've lost half our numbers! This has never happened before we need to retreat and regroup."

Random Reaper: Boss, we are lost half of us!
Harbinger: We are eternal. Fight again.

Lmfao,Havent you heard? Reapers never lose.

Reaper council "We need a plan to stop Shepard!!!"
Harbinger "We fight or we die, Thats the plan"

[Leonia]

Trap them in dark space again and blow up all the mass relays.. just to be sure.

Actually, the idea of losing the technology that the Reapers left for the galaxy to use would be an interesting consequence of victory.

[Kyria Nyriese]

While everything shows that the Reapers should be intelligent, I don't honestly think they would retreat. I think they would never think they are going to lose until the last of them are dead. They feel they are so superior to us, that there is no way we could ever defeat them.

[King Minos]

Leonia, I have suggested that idea before, stop the reapers by blowing up relays at the cost of total isolation with every other species. Each species trapped in their own system as a cost of defeating the reapers.

[medcsu]

The Reapers will have NO chance if they have to retreat as the entire galaxy will know of them, prepare for them (weapons they know worked, etc), move locations, set traps, etc. They are most certainly a group that needs some essence of surprise even with their firepower.

[Beerfish]

Reaper "Come on, have at you!"
Shep "What do you mean you silly git? I just blasted off your tail fin and all of your arms!"
Reaper "It's only a flesh wound! Come on, I'm ready to fight!"
Shep "I just blasted your outter shell to bits! There is nothing left but a knobby brain! Get out of my way."
Reaper "Your scared of me are you! I'll bunt my head up against your ship!"

[111987]

If the Reapers retreat, while it would be tactically intelligent, they would never be able to return, and the cycle would be broken. The organic races would rebuild and continue to become more powerful, develop greater technologies, etc.... After all if the Reapers attacked, caused so much devastation, and then left, you can bet the threat of their existence would dramatically improve relations between species, and much would be invested in combat technology.

The Reapers have once chance to make this work.

[ladyvader]

Yes, I think they will fight to the end. They seem to be full of hubris. Same with the yahg and we all know how that turned out for the yahg.

[Gterror]

Yeah, because Shepard asked for it

[Nizzemancer]

eye basher wrote...

You don't need to destroy all the reapers just enough of them so that there no longer a problem.

Uhm...when is one reaper "no longer a problem"?

[DDG4005]

The Reapers will fight and die at the hands of D. Shepard, badazz of the galaxy!  Seriously though I think they will fight to the end.  Better to be destroyed in battle with "inferior" organics than to retreat in defeat.

[Nizzemancer]

ladyvader wrote...

Yes, I think they will fight to the end. They seem to be full of hubris. Same with the yahg and we all know how that turned out for the yahg.

they got abandoned on their own planet and had no further contact with intergalactic society?

Edit: The reapers will invade then Shepard will call their parents and they'll come and scold their kid-reapers for killing harmless lifeforms. So no they'll survive...they'll have to go to bed without supper however.

edit2: oh and nobody will ask for that Sovereign-kid since he was just a street-urchin living the hardcore orphan-life and nobody loved him.

Modifié par Nizzemancer, 31 août 2011 - 04:30 .

[khordlambert]

I wouldn't think there would be any need to question that. If the Reapers have any weakness it would have to be their unquestionable hubris and ego. They will all die thinking "This is impossible! How could these insignificant germs possibly harm me!?"

[MrProliferation]

I think the greater question is what are the reaper's motivations (why do they do what they do) and who created them? The reapers wipe out all intelligent biological life, but WHY? Is it because they are crazy? I don't think so. They hint that there is some function they are serving. What I'm more interested in is knowing what that function is.

I think you may very well kill off all the reapers, but the question would remain as to what the consequences of such an action would be. If the reapers actually do something important and aren't just deranged machines, then it would be naive to think that there will be no negative consequences from removing them.

[Tooneyman]

eye basher wrote...

You don't need to destroy all the reapers just enough of them so that there no longer a problem.

If you look closely. One reaper alive is a problem. Look what it harbinger and Sovereign did in the first two games. Just one reaper is a problem. They must all be wiped out if humanity and the galaxy is to live in peace.