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BioWare teases Dragon Age III story details (Spoiler)


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I doubt we'll be railroaded into siding with the Chantry - and I'm certain the Mage-Templar War is just a single weave in a much larger web.

There's another force at work who has far more to gain from the war than either the mages or Templars do, I'm sure - and I'm hoping DA3 will show us just who or what that force might be.

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Meh. New PC, dumb plot, probably won't get it. Really, they never even tried to close Hawke and friends' storylines, what do you expect from the last squeeze on the money cow?

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Personally, I'm relieved that we won't be playing Hawke again. I wouldn't mind if some of the companions came back though.

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If DA3 is going to also be only 1/3 the length of DAO they should reduce the price. I understand some folks don't want an immense game that they have trouble finishing, but if they shrink the game, the price should drop as well. I felt cheated at paying the same price for DA2 as DAO especially when it felt like even less game as the areas were reused so often. Adding content via DLC is fine, but then the total price goes up even more before it finally feels like a complete game.

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Gathering allies again? I don't oppose it, i just hope this is actually what BW want to do, and not what they think will appease fans.

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mage vs templar... blah blah blah, whatever

third new PC character in as many games, blah blah blah, whatever

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

third new PC character in as many games, blah blah blah, whatever


I welcome a new PC! Not that I disliked the warden or Hawke, but I like that the world doesn't revolve around them and life goes on.

I'd love to see them as cameos or even temporary companions (don't really see how it would be difficult to do this, as long as they resemble the character you made, people should be happy they'd be acknowledged in such a big way - in MotA, Isolde didn't look terrible)

And people were complaining about being stuck in one place. Well travelling across Thedas would be great :P

I don't think it'd just be mages v templars. Orlais has been bigged up a lot in DA2, so I expect that will also be involved - as well as a loada other stuff happening.


Can't wait for more details. Hope the ending isn't left open like DA2, I really liked the post-archdemon scene in origins and all the epilogue slides.

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New Protagonist is probably a new Grey Warden, possibly related the The Warden, and possibly Morrigan's son/daughter, who will have the sould of an Old God that will be either Paragon/Renagade.(or something like that anyway)

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I taky my hat with label "Orlais please"

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I don't and would't believe anything good they say about DA3 after DA2, not anymore, no.

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The Mage/Chantry conflict could be interesting, if done right. There are a lot elements to contend with, and no matter what the outcome, there will always be somebody not happy.And this unhappiness can lend itself to at least minor future conflict.
Tevinter is too far one way, and the Chantry in Orlais, etc. is too far the other. I can see possibilities for peace as being primarily Chantry/Templar, primarily Mage, and a Mage/Templar/Chantry mix which would have problems with the more extreme elements from all sides. And of course there would be problems with Tevinter agents or Conservative Orlais Chantry agents depending on how far in whichever direction you wanted to go. One of the things I never understood about DA2 is what happened to the Litany of Adralla? If Cullen is in Kirkwall, he should have known about it by then. Are bloodmages in Kirkwall different than in the Fereldan Circle? I don't think so. Does it only work on Fereldan soil? Doesn't seem likely.
Some mages would agree that having a templar type check is necessary. After all, while mages are in training, things can get out of hand. A lot of mages are against blood magic. Also, can't some of these moderate elements be working on an alternative to the Rite of Tranquility? And if more Templars find out they don't need to become addicted to lyrium, how many of them would rebel against the Chantry? It's one thing to be loyal because you believe and another to have loyalty forced because of a forced addiction.
Maybe you will also be contending with Flemeth in a much bigger role. It might make sense for her to make her move now.
Where would the elves stand in this?
I do want to go back to Origins style character creation, I don't want to be forced to be human.
I hope they don't shorten the game again, DA2 may be too long for what was delivered, but it is too short for what I was expecting. I don't mind the length of Origins. I would be quite happy for DA3 to be as long, if it is done well. I like exploring various options and characters. And that's enough for now.

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lol @ anyone thinking you could actually choose for mages to be free, or to put them back in circles without being railroaded into one path. Any choice that big would be far too difficult to import into any sequel. The dev team's already probably pulling their hair out trying to figure out how to implement the god baby. As for the future, I personally hope we can at least get very diverging ways of getting to that end point no matter how much the same it is.

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Maybe the Grey Wardens should take over all the Circles LOL! That would put the Chantry's knickers in a twist. They could help out old Avernus at Warden's Peak.

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I think with where the plot ended at the end of dragons age 2 (regardless of what you thought of it) does lend itself well to an origins style beginning, with several races and options. While i know it wont happen it would be nice for an origins option with your imported warden or hawke.

I for one hope elves have a larger part in this then they did in dragon age 2 or even the original dragon age. It seems like the elves are treated like the native americans. All there land stolen, and then the majority choosing to live on reservations. However, even with that said I do find there history as been described so far rather interesting. I would enjoy uncovering there past and bringing some of there tech which seemed more advanced to the modern dragon age realm.

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I really, really, really would like to play as my warden again. I loved both games, but really missed the wardens in DA2.

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I purposely avoid getting Fenris at all. I hope to god that if Fenris is in DA3, he will not EVER mention, be with, or know my Hawke.

Also Warden to kill Hawke please.

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Just read Asunder.....if the book is cannon to what's going on in the DA world with templars and mages.....should be an interesting ride!

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It kind of ticks me off that they have come out and said the books are not necessarily 100% canon. I realize its hard to manage a game world that has constantly changing story based on multiple universes, but please, give us an idea of what truly is happening and what isn't. Between the books being considered as possibly non-canon and Varric being an "unreliable narrator" we don't have a common idea of what actually has happened in Thedas. Have one source be the unembelished truth, whether that is the book, the game or even an official Wiki.

Also - try and get us a timeline. I know its hard to nail down, mostly because the times described don't make 100% total sense sometimes. But it would be nice to have.

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Despite the common opinion, I found the story background from DA2 much more interesting than in DAO. although I don't prefer one game over the other (they ruined the end of DA2). It doesn't have to be end of the world scenario all the time - that is boring. I like the smaller, more believeble conflicts, like the ones in DA2 between templars and mages or chantry and Qunari and in DAO the ones between Harrowmond and Bhelen or elves and werewolves.
So naturally, I would rather see a continuitation of the mage/templar conflict or something similar (maybe the elves in the alienages want more rights or - on a greater scale, but totally believable in that context - the Qunari give the invasion of Thedas a try).
Although I love Hawke very much as a character, I would like to be able, which race to choose.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

It kind of ticks me off that they have come out and said the books are not necessarily 100% canon. I realize its hard to manage a game world that has constantly changing story based on multiple universes, but please, give us an idea of what truly is happening and what isn't. Between the books being considered as possibly non-canon and Varric being an "unreliable narrator" we don't have a common idea of what actually has happened in Thedas. Have one source be the unembelished truth, whether that is the book, the game or even an official Wiki.

Also - try and get us a timeline. I know its hard to nail down, mostly because the times described don't make 100% total sense sometimes. But it would be nice to have.


How can the books not be 100% canon?  Too, if Varric is an "unreliable narrator", where and what exactly is the truth?

This reeks of either lack of direction, a division, or Bioware/EA taking the easy way out on the DA games, meaning if something is inconvenient, they can simply discard it as non-canon, and go in whatever direction they want.  The problem with that is, the more it happens, the more there are "WTF" moments by gameplayers, the more there are customers that walk away because when canon is broken, so is immersion and the suspension of believability.  It also lessens the depth of the world in which the story takes place.

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I wouldn't take it to literal. I haven't read Asunder, but knowing that Wynne can die in Oirigns, as well as Shale, but then both returning in Asunder isn't canon. What happens in Asunder might be, but maybe some Characters (like Wynne and Shale) are just things to add to the plot.

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

I am not sure if another templars versus mages game works. I wasn't exactly happy how that worked the last time. I was hoping for something with an actual story. ;)


You weren't alone. :)

I'm not certain what the point would be in having a war between mages and templars - it's not like the developers have the inclination to accomodate the player having a real choice in choosing the outcome, especially when we saw how the "choices" at the end of Dragon Age 2 lead to virtually the same outcome (as well as the story DLC of Legacy and MoTA doing the same, where the two "choices" lead to the same ending with only minor differences).

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Okay So I knew the Seekers would be involved ... not a shocked about that...

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Jaulen wrote...

Just read Asunder.....if the book is cannon to what's going on in the DA world with templars and mages.....should be an interesting ride!


*Slight spoilers for Asunder*

This.  I mean, civil war in Orlais, murmurings of elven rebellions, AND the Mages and Templars at war?  And the Chantry presumably no longer backing the Templars?  AND the possibility of a Qunari invasion?

I'm excited. 

Also, in regards to a new PC, YES PLEASE.  I will be perfectly happy if Hawke's story gets more or less wrapped up in DLC (though of course I wouldn't say no to a DA3 appearance), and as for the Warden, I expect they'll be back in some way shape or form, but I have no desire to play as them again.  Also I highly doubt we'll be forced into playing a Seeker, that would limit class options (I assume), and no way is Bioware going to do that.  They may go back to having different Origins and races, or they may stick with a single protagonist who can easily be any class.  I would be fine with either option.