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[WardenKing]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

*Slight spoilers for Asunder*

This.  I mean, civil war in Orlais, murmurings of elven rebellions, AND the Mages and Templars at war?  And the Chantry presumably no longer backing the Templars?  AND the possibility of a Qunari invasion?

I'm excited. 

I agree with you, should the Mage - Templar War expand into elven rebellion, a qunari invasion and possibly a new blight, then Dragon Age 3 would be really interesting. I sure cannot wait! And I hope the Qunari enslaves all of Thedas!

[AtreiyaN7]

Sounds like a natural progression of events. I want them to see the impact of the mage rebellion on Thedas and am interested in seeing how it ultimately plays out. Since they're apparently going back to gathering allies a la DA:O and are presumably reverting to a more traditional storytelling/gameplay pattern (aka get allies x, y, z). i would have thought that people would be happy about it, but evidently not based on reading some of the posts.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 05 janvier 2012 - 11:53 .

[Night Dreams]

IanPolaris wrote...

I don't want to reconcile them. I don't think there is anything to reconcile frankly until the Chantry gets out of the politics business, and how likely is that if you are forced to play a cursed "Seeker"? Not very is my guess.

-Polaris

Although they were skeptical about choosing race, like in origins, I remember hearing them saying that multiple origin stories are still possible for the beginning of the game. So there is still hope that there will be an option to be a seeker or not. Although even if they forced you into that role they could always give the chance to rebel against the chantry's values anyhow (that is, if they make decision-making real again, which they are saying they want to).

[LobselVith8]

Night Dreams wrote...

Although they were skeptical about choosing race, like in origins, I remember hearing them saying that multiple origin stories are still possible for the beginning of the game. So there is still hope that there will be an option to be a seeker or not. Although even if they forced you into that role they could always give the chance to rebel against the chantry's values anyhow (that is, if they make decision-making real again, which they are saying they want to).

If that's true, the developers might want to start implementing that into their story DLC, rather than continuing to make choices irrelevant.

[jlb524]

How could a mage be a Seeker though?

You'd need a separate Circle Mage origin.

[TEWR]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Also if you read Asunder it makes it a believable way for a mage to be a Seeker.

[jlb524]

I did read Asunder but I don't recall any specifics regarding that.

Even if they could be Seekers I'm not sure many mages would want to join up.

[TEWR]

jlb524 wrote...

I did read Asunder but I don't recall any specifics regarding that.

Even if they could be Seekers I'm not sure many mages would want to join up.

There weren't. What I was getting at was this:
 
Given the mentality of the Divine and her pro-mage stance, as well as the support she has from some of the Seekers and some of the Templars then a mage Seeker is very possible.

Though I would expect the right to be suspicious and wary before joining -- and continue to be suspicious until such a time as I saw fit -- and I would hope the option to possibly betray them would be there.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 06 janvier 2012 - 11:10 .

[Clover Rider]

 I hope we get to see the full world of Dragon Age this time.

[Tremere]

Judging by what I read in the snippet/teaser, it would be great to be able to play from the perspective of the Warden, Hawke or a new protagonist. You'd still be able to import old saves and solve the problem of the players desire to revisit their old hero. Toss in a side order of the old god child and you'll have a game that stays true to it's origin (no pun intended) and provides replay value for all. Likewise, there could be an option for the pc to recruit Hawke and/or the Warden (or some variation of same).

On a very visceral level, I'd like to see the Chantry and it's zealots severely humbled and elves finally liberated from second class citizen status. In these actions I can see the concept of the world being saved from itself making complete sense... and no, we don't need the Qunari in charge. They are no better than humans in my opinion. ;^)

[Tremere]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I did read Asunder but I don't recall any specifics regarding that.

Even if they could be Seekers I'm not sure many mages would want to join up.

There weren't. What I was getting at was this:
 
Given the mentality of the Divine and her pro-mage stance, as well as the support she has from some of the Seekers and some of the Templars then a mage Seeker is very possible.

Though I would expect the right to be suspicious and wary before joining -- and continue to be suspicious until such a time as I saw fit -- and I would hope the option to possibly betray them would be there.

*nods in agreement* This would definitely add a nice twist. It would certainly contribute to the concept that not everything is as absolute as the inhabitants of Thedas believe they should be. Thedas should see some better shades of gray.

[WardenWade]

jlb524 wrote...

How could a mage be a Seeker though?

You'd need a separate Circle Mage origin.

IMO that would be great   I hope we have an option like that for mage playthroughs in DA3.

[WardenWade]

Jasmine96 wrote...

WardenWade wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

How could a mage be a Seeker though?

You'd need a separate Circle Mage origin.

IMO that would be great   I hope we have an option like that for mage playthroughs in DA3.

Agree! I really wan't the option to play a circle mage again, it was my favorite origin in origins and I think it would go really great with the templar/mage war going on. Especially that the towers have all broken free. I wonder if it could start out with the tower being under attack. Like maybe the templars invoked the right of annulment and you're trying to escape.. If they decide to go with origins again I hope they include something like this

I like that idea!  Being a Circle mage, or at least still affiliated with the Chantry somehow, would put a mage character in a truly unique and potentially really interesting position.  I truly want Origins-style origin options back in DA3 as well, Jasmine96   As speculated above, if mages under Justinia V could conceivably join the Seekers, could an elf join?  A dwarf?  A Tal Vasoth?  Brother Berkel was part of the Chantry, for example.  I think the perspective a Circle mage or non-human could bring to the conflict would be unique and fascinating, and worth exploring.

[ev76]

Now an elven Templar would be an interesting twist. Maybe a city elf picked up by the chantry? The Templar could play out similar to Duncan.

[RVallant]

Wouldn't get my hopes up either way.

[WardenWade]

Jasmine96 wrote...

WardenWade wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

WardenWade wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

How could a mage be a Seeker though?

You'd need a separate Circle Mage origin.

IMO that would be great   I hope we have an option like that for mage playthroughs in DA3.

Agree! I really wan't the option to play a circle mage again, it was my favorite origin in origins and I think it would go really great with the templar/mage war going on. Especially that the towers have all broken free. I wonder if it could start out with the tower being under attack. Like maybe the templars invoked the right of annulment and you're trying to escape.. If they decide to go with origins again I hope they include something like this

I like that idea!  Being a Circle mage, or at least still affiliated with the Chantry somehow, would put a mage character in a truly unique and potentially really interesting position.  I truly want Origins-style origin options back in DA3 as well, Jasmine96   As speculated above, if mages under Justinia V could conceivably join the Seekers, could an elf join?  A dwarf?  A Tal Vasoth?  Brother Berkel was part of the Chantry, for example.  I think the perspective a Circle mage or non-human could bring to the conflict would be unique and fascinating, and worth exploring.

I'm sure an elf could join, I think I remember a Bioware dev commenting that elves could become templars, that it was just uncommon, so I'm sure they could become seekers too. In that case I'm sure a dwarf could become a seeker also if they wanted to, again it was just uncommon so we don't see alot of them, but of course it's always possible!

Well even if we don't get multiple races I'll be happy with just some sort of background option. I heard of them maybe considering doing mass effect-like backgrounds, so I hope we hear more of this  

An elven templar would be intriguing.  And it seems like the magical resistance of a dwarf would be really useful in the mage/templar conflict.  I do recall concept art of a kossith Seeker as well, unless I'm mistaken.  I like the possibilities, as well

Modifié par WardenWade, 24 mars 2012 - 09:56 .

[WardenWade]

ev76 wrote...

Now an elven Templar would be an interesting twist. Maybe a city elf picked up by the chantry? The Templar could play out similar to Duncan.

This sounds interesting!  Even for a city elf, it could maybe be a chance to explore intersecting religious beliefs/practices, elven and human together.  Plus, city elves FTW

[SoCalAries]

They've been narrowing the scope with each game. It was a diverse world with many issues and the threat of darkspawn. Now it's all about templars & mages.

With the nonsensical rushed ending of ME3, I'm getting off the bioware bus. It was nice while it lasted; EA's ruined their work ethic.

Modifié par SoCalAries, 25 mars 2012 - 06:47 .

[Sovereign141]

I want to get my hopes up for DA III I really do... But I'm not going to get my hopes up after DAII... The only consolation I possibly have is that its gonna be reeeeaaaly hard for EA to screw up more than Dragon Age 2... As long as they stop reusing environments and overhaul the terrible combat system... Ill be as happy as a dwarf in a swimmingpool of ale.

[SlimyWatcher]

I don't see any reason to create this thread because of NO matter what you all "desire" - Bioware WILL make it on its own. And in the "end" you WILL buy "it" and WILL be drooling again...again ....and again. "lucky you"...

[CBGB]

SlimyWatcher wrote...
 in the "end" you WILL buy "it" and WILL be
drooling again...again ....and again. "lucky you"...

I could quit any time. Honest.

SoCalAries wrote...
With the
nonsensical rushed ending of ME3, I'm getting off the bioware bus. It
was nice while it lasted; EA's ruined their work ethic.

After DA2 and ME3, my faith is shaken, if not gone. I'm likely to buy DA3, but I'm also likely to pass on any premium editions and to be more choosy about my DLC's. If they drop the ball on this one, I'll view them more like I view EA: with as much chance of striking out as of hitting a home run.

SoCalAries wrote...
They've been narrowing the scope with each game. It was a diverse world with many issues and the threat of darkspawn. Now it's all about templars & mages. 

I wonder if when they say 'Dragon Age III’s story will centre around 'saving the world from itself,'' if it could mean a fight over the seeping of the Fade into Thedas. It'd be a tough choice to close - or remove - that Veil forever.

[WhiteKnyght]

CBGB wrote...

SlimyWatcher wrote...
 in the "end" you WILL buy "it" and WILL be
drooling again...again ....and again. "lucky you"...

I could quit any time. Honest.

SoCalAries wrote...
With the
nonsensical rushed ending of ME3, I'm getting off the bioware bus. It
was nice while it lasted; EA's ruined their work ethic.

After DA2 and ME3, my faith is shaken, if not gone. I'm likely to buy DA3, but I'm also likely to pass on any premium editions and to be more choosy about my DLC's. If they drop the ball on this one, I'll view them more like I view EA: with as much chance of striking out as of hitting a home run.

SoCalAries wrote...
They've been narrowing the scope with each game. It was a diverse world with many issues and the threat of darkspawn. Now it's all about templars & mages. 

I wonder if when they say 'Dragon Age III’s story will centre around 'saving the world from itself,'' if it could mean a fight over the seeping of the Fade into Thedas. It'd be a tough choice to close - or remove - that Veil forever.

1. Sure you could.

2. Dragon Age II's story was good, the problems were elsewhere. As for Mass Effect 3, I saw no problem with the ending, people just doomed themselves with high expectation and pre-game headcanoning.

3. I think you're grasping at straws with that theory. The decision about whether or not to close off the fade or tear down the barrier to it would be so drastic that it'd have to be endgame, and Bioware has been clear that DA3 is not the end of the series.

3.2. "Saving the world from itself" is described by the fact that there is an all out war going on between mages and templars, a civil war in Orlais which involves the elves uprising against their oppressors, and quite possibly the Qunari ready to begin their second invasion in Thedas. And never mind the usual threats like darkspawn and whatever Flemeth has planned. To be short: the use fo the word "world" means the people in it, not the planet itself.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 29 mai 2013 - 05:05 .