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Why Biowares attempt at 'best of both worlds' could be a critical success.


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First: excuse my horrid spelling. It really is nasty when I haven't got my trusty spell checker to make me look like a decently intelligent person.

Second: The question. "Best of both worlds... haven't we seen this before? *cough* DA2 *cough.*

Now I see why this question appears in the forums, and why it disheartens people. A lot of fans were dissapointed by Bioware's attempt. And many think they are going to make the same mistake twice.

And hell, they might even make an even WORSE game than before, totally ruining the Dragon age franchise until they abandon RPGs all together and focus on Mass Effect. We'll see David Gaider working for Obsidian and Mike Laidlaw in jail for murdering Sylvius the mad... Sorry for the references to our local BSN forumite... I just thought it was funny (and to conclude, a smiley face to assure I say this with a light heart.)

:D

Now think for a second. Why this second attempt can be critically succesful and why can it easily be the best Dragon age game yet? Because they have the one thing they didn't have before. And that is feedback. Yes, feedback, and remember it. It's a very important word.

People might argue if they listen or not. Well I think with Legacy they surely did prove that they are listening. Sure they didn't fix DA2. But they can't! Forget about 'fixing' Dragon age 2 because it won't happen. It's released, done, finished no more!

But with Dragon age 3, they can rebuild from scratch. They are doing a new plot, they are writing new characters, developing the game upwards. With the vital information they gained from their previous game DA2.

What are fans doing every day when we post in the Dragon age 2 forums? We give feedback and it's that feedback and constructive crititism that Bioware digs up and researches, implementing those brilliant ideas us forumites have, tweaking some, and completley abandoning others (toggle voice acting!)

:whistle:

When developing Dragon age 2 Bioware had nothing to work with. They knew they were doing something risky, and they took that risk. What Bioware is trying to do is to please the old and new Bioware fanbase. But when they did that in DA2 they didn't know how!

And people might say "they are proffesionals! Don't be silly!" Sure that might be true. But the process of developing video games is difficult, especially when you are treading into uncharted territory.

We all know what the Bioware forumula is? Good. I don't have to post that picture then no? Well... just for those who don't.

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There you go. Enjoy. :D

Now you can obviously see that Dragon age 2 completley threw that formula Bioware are so good with and tried something new.

New is scary, risky, dangerous. But it is inevitable. It is bound to happen. And when Bioware did they it was either gonna fail or succeed.

Looking at the general feedback, it was a mix of both, but for the most part, it was the former. So why try to even mix Dragon age 2 into any of their newest games?

They are not! No no no no NO! If anything they are trying to improve that 'innovative' vison they had before.

They aren't going for DA2 + Origins = DA3.

No, they are going for Origins + Feedback of DA2 = 3.

Knowledge is what they have no. Knowledge gained from our feedback will be a huge part of Dragon age 3. But, most importantly, it's how they implement that feedback. Which is a totally different thing altogether.

What is important to know is that they are obviously not going to go for the former formula. They are heading for the latter, and as I said before. Legacy proves me right.

If anything, if it was not for our cries, DA3 would have probably ended up like Dragon age 2. But it was us as a community that we managed to give potential information for Bioware to gather and use.

The implementation process is entierely different. But as you can see from Mike Laidlaw's previous post of the outfit design that they are still asking for our feedback, and they are still gathering knowledge. Bioware are many things. But they aren't idiots people.

- thanks alot, simfamSP ;)

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John Epler

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If people are unable to disagree in a civil, respectful fashion, they should perhaps remove themselves from the thread. Everyone's allowed to share their opinion, and they should be free to do so without insults or snide comments from others.

Thanks.

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Stanley Woo

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This is a reminder that fighting is not permitted in our community. We can disagree with each other without resorting to name-calling and insults. Also, discussion of software piracy is not permitted in our forums. This includes the advocacy, suggestion, encouragement, or admission of software piracy. Linking to torrents is a DEFINITE no-no.

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