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Why Biowares attempt at 'best of both worlds' could be a critical success.


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FitScotGaymer wrote...

Let's back off from the insults people.

Theres really no need for it.

Some people like DAO, some people like DA2, and some of us like both.

Opinion is Opinion is not Fact.

The fact of the matter DA2 has more in common with DAO than people would like to admit; and if the game had had say another 6 months to a year of development time you can GUARANTEE that there would be a hell of a lot less moaning about how DA2 is a complete 180 from DAO. It completely is not.

What really causes DA2 to stand out from DAO is the fact that DA2 is blatantly unfinished and DAO was finished. Thats it.

I defy each and every one of you to say that you would have hated DA2 if it had had another years development to allow for it to be finished and properly QA'ed. And honestly if you insist you would, then id call you a liar.
And the people who "hate" DAO and "love" DA2? Honestly I reckon they are liars too because honestly many of the things they "hated" in DAO are present in DA2 (sometimes in a bastardised form but present nonetheless).

Haterz Gonna Hate as you Americans say.


Do people actually say that they hate da:o, or do they just point out that that game too have flaws? I am more attacthed to my Hawke than my warden that doesn't mean that I love da2 and hate da:o. I love both games, I just feel the need to point out that not everything in da:o. was perfect.

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@esper Just as well they dont know that my DAO disc is now laminated and making a very snazzy Soada coaster/Beermat oops did i say that out loud Whoops lol

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esper wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Let's back off from the insults people.

Theres really no need for it.

Some people like DAO, some people like DA2, and some of us like both.

Opinion is Opinion is not Fact.

The fact of the matter DA2 has more in common with DAO than people would like to admit; and if the game had had say another 6 months to a year of development time you can GUARANTEE that there would be a hell of a lot less moaning about how DA2 is a complete 180 from DAO. It completely is not.

What really causes DA2 to stand out from DAO is the fact that DA2 is blatantly unfinished and DAO was finished. Thats it.

I defy each and every one of you to say that you would have hated DA2 if it had had another years development to allow for it to be finished and properly QA'ed. And honestly if you insist you would, then id call you a liar.
And the people who "hate" DAO and "love" DA2? Honestly I reckon they are liars too because honestly many of the things they "hated" in DAO are present in DA2 (sometimes in a bastardised form but present nonetheless).

Haterz Gonna Hate as you Americans say.


Do people actually say that they hate da:o, or do they just point out that that game too have flaws? I am more attacthed to my Hawke than my warden that doesn't mean that I love da2 and hate da:o. I love both games, I just feel the need to point out that not everything in da:o. was perfect.


I definitely agree but there are some DA:2 fans who get off blasting Origins in order to get their point across.

I have never seen you insult people but the troll poster brand has and that is not going to get people to listen to his opinion.

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I don't agree. I gave up on DA franchise. I just hope they don't ruin ME3 like DA2. Don't get me wrong DA2 is a fine game and fun in a way...but the general direction worries me much more than game's more tangible problems. The direction being, "dumb down things that our fans loved, which we suppose made it harder to attract gamer adolescent boys with rich parents who own a console. So we are gonna water it down, yes MONEH"

They have got one chance to make it right for DA3 now. I hope they don't blow it, but interviews of the devs say otherwise.

Modifié par ApostleinTriumph, 04 septembre 2011 - 07:36 .


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@esper Just as well they dont know that my DAO disc is now laminated and making a very snazzy Soada coaster/Beermat oops did i say that out loud Whoops lol


You know we cant hear you right? Seeing as you still own the game, you should take a moment to register your copy of Origins here dude.

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Because bioware created fantastic games like ME and DAO they were given to much expectation and DA2 wasn´t able to reach that just because it was rushed and there was some monumental failures like some facts doesn´t add upp with origins or the repeating locations etc.

Some people like me wanted the warden to return as a protaganist in DA3 and i know it´s not going to happen. Some wants hawke to return as a protaganist and it´s not going to happen either.

But one thing I know is this. people don´t like loose ends, you shouldn´t ask yourself these questions in the ending of something:

What happend next?
What happend to him/her?
What happend to that?
etc. etc.

For example: if you made the choice to follow morrigan through the eluvian or not: what happend?
Hawke disappears, why?

But i still cant belive bioware wants to resent the succes of DAO, it´s sound like they are searching for something special but they´re overdoing it.

I think that bioware could make a succes of mixing to both games into a single one, even though my expectations are low.

However in my opinion don´t think that they can make a satisfying conclusion for everyone. DA ins´t ME but when you follow one single heros story you keep track on everything that happens around you and you face the consuqensis on a personal level and i´m not talking about a single game but the entire franchise.

For example if you continue your warden story through DAO,DAA and DA2 you feel more part of it. Samething if you continue as hawke to DA3.

I Know that Protaganist will Be a new and not hawke or the warden

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Melca36 wrote...

esper wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Let's back off from the insults people.

Theres really no need for it.

Some people like DAO, some people like DA2, and some of us like both.

Opinion is Opinion is not Fact.

The fact of the matter DA2 has more in common with DAO than people would like to admit; and if the game had had say another 6 months to a year of development time you can GUARANTEE that there would be a hell of a lot less moaning about how DA2 is a complete 180 from DAO. It completely is not.

What really causes DA2 to stand out from DAO is the fact that DA2 is blatantly unfinished and DAO was finished. Thats it.

I defy each and every one of you to say that you would have hated DA2 if it had had another years development to allow for it to be finished and properly QA'ed. And honestly if you insist you would, then id call you a liar.
And the people who "hate" DAO and "love" DA2? Honestly I reckon they are liars too because honestly many of the things they "hated" in DAO are present in DA2 (sometimes in a bastardised form but present nonetheless).

Haterz Gonna Hate as you Americans say.


Do people actually say that they hate da:o, or do they just point out that that game too have flaws? I am more attacthed to my Hawke than my warden that doesn't mean that I love da2 and hate da:o. I love both games, I just feel the need to point out that not everything in da:o. was perfect.


I definitely agree but there are some DA:2 fans who get off blasting Origins in order to get their point across.

I have never seen you insult people but the troll poster brand has and that is not going to get people to listen to his opinion.


We all get snappy sometimes... I do think that I one time or two have come very close to be rude (or actually was). I do think it is sad that we are so divided and firmly set against each other. It makes it hard to say that we do understand the other side, but sometimes we have wonderfull and good discussion that are interesting which makes it worth it to navigate the forums. 

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jbrand2002uk wrote...
I would state categorically that media piracy is wrong and should never be done its widespread nonetheless




Then why do it? Here is some advice for you: if you are going to post on Bioware Social about the evils of videogame piracy, DO NOT USE THE SAME HANDLE YOU USE ON THEPIRATEBAY. Google “jbrand2002uk piratebay” people, we appear to have a thief in our midst.

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Atakuma wrote...

All bioware games lack meaningful choice, the problem is that DA2 didn't even try to pretend otherwise.

That's not true at all.  BioWare games tend not to acknowledge your choices, but before they started voicing the PC they generally contained quite a lot of opportunities for roleplaying choices (the extent to which those choices were meaningful was determined by each player).  And until ME and DA2, they tended to allow you important character build choices, as well.

ipgd wrote...

I think you've got that backwards. I'm pretty sure Gaider would beat Laidlaw to taking out Sylvius, unless he has his hands tied assassinating IanPolaris first.

That's silly.

David likes me.

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 04 septembre 2011 - 09:37 .


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@Red_Sonja
same username yes different email address i actually dont have an account with that site and never wood all my BW content is legit and bout with hard earned cash

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Red_Sonja wrote...

jbrand2002uk wrote...
I would state categorically that media piracy is wrong and should never be done its widespread nonetheless




Then why do it? Here is some advice for you: if you are going to post on Bioware Social about the evils of videogame piracy, DO NOT USE THE SAME HANDLE YOU USE ON THEPIRATEBAY. Google “jbrand2002uk piratebay” people, we appear to have a thief in our midst.


Modifié par Melca36, 04 septembre 2011 - 10:26 .


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jbrand2002uk wrote...

@Red_Sonja
same username yes different email address i actually dont have an account with that site and never wood all my BW content is legit and bout with hard earned cash


Same name....REALLY? No, you're a liar and a thief:



jbrand2002uk wrote...

at 2011-08-14 11:15 CET:
just wanted to say thank you too as it worked straight out the box and also some advice to anyone using the trainers from cheat happens occasionially the game ill crash if using it while playing the legacy part though Pwizzard assures me that this would be the case even if u had bought the DLC from bioware so just save regualry and if it crashes just reboot the trainer and game and it works fine and has no issues once you have completed the legacy quest just use the level up cheat before u get the key and its awesome i levelled my mage up to levell 500 and now have a staff version of hawkes key that does 1297 electricity damage lol



That poor piece of prose has your name written all over it.....literally. I do hope Bioware come down on you like a ton of bricks you sad, sad little boy.

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ah i see Melca36 you have run out of personal attacks towards me so now you assume that having kids makes someone guilty of media piracy would you care to try and slide that past any other members of the forums who have kids i doubt it and yes i also googled my BW handle and apparently despite never having owned a cellphone or a mobile phone and living in the UK i apparently Tweeted that i made $400 yesterday despite living in a country that uses £'s not $'s maybe both of you should think with that brain between your ears before you go flinging accusations like that around to to try and get even like some childish brat having a hissyfit
so now who's trolling hmmm yes that would be both of you honestly your both pathetic

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again complete unfounded rubbish because apparently you play on poker underworld if i was to apply your so called Detective methods

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I think the best course is to pick a vision and stick with it. Trying to do too many things (and in a short amount of time) does not yield good results.

I do wonder, given the things posted about time/resources was an issue if DA2 was this vision or was there more they wanted to do? Maybe an act 4? Act 3 could have been more fleshing out of things that...needed it? (Imho) Just random thoughts.

Modifié par FieryDove, 05 septembre 2011 - 12:08 .


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Oh, nevermind. 

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Prey tell, what else did you find when you googled your BSN handle jbrand2002uk?

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according to this i have an xfire account(no idea what that is ) and a bebo account(facebook is the only site i use) and a youtoube account with a video of what is someone playing GTA4 on a xbox despite the fact that i have never owned a xbox or ever owned a copy of GTA4
simply put i could go on 100's of site through a stone and hit a jbrand2002uk

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Red_Sonja wrote...

Prey tell, what else did you find when you googled your BSN handle jbrand2002uk?


That piece of prose you pasted is dead on to his writing style. ^_^

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

ah i see Melca36 you have run out of personal attacks towards me so now you assume that having kids makes someone guilty of media piracy would you care to try and slide that past any other members of the forums who have kids i doubt it and yes i also googled my BW handle and apparently despite never having owned a cellphone or a mobile phone and living in the UK i apparently Tweeted that i made $400 yesterday despite living in a country that uses £'s not $'s maybe both of you should think with that brain between your ears before you go flinging accusations like that around to to try and get even like some childish brat having a hissyfit
so now who's trolling hmmm yes that would be both of you honestly your both pathetic


To be fair, I deleted that post.

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well thank you for deleting it all my BW content and DLC is legitimate otherwise it wouldnt work

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Melca36 wrote...

Red_Sonja wrote...

Prey tell, what else did you find when you googled your BSN handle jbrand2002uk?


That piece of prose you pasted is dead on to his writing style. ^_^


Bang to rights.

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jbrand2002uk wrote...

well thank you for deleting it all my BW content and DLC is legitimate otherwise it wouldnt work


No problem.


You do realize alot of people would not be so angry with you if you just stopped attacking people who like Origins.

Its really that simple.

I did NOT hate DA:2.  On a scale of 1-10 I rate it around a 7/8 but it is NOT the perfect game you claim it to be but Origins is NOT the garbage you claim it to be either.

Just learn to not try to convert people to your beliefs.

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It's exactly his writing style. It's almost DNA level in its uniqueness..

F**ing troll.

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Waves white flag...let there be peace!