Barry Bathernak wrote...
think of this hold long was it till the rest of the world found out about hitlers concentration camps even though there were all those people around knowing what was going on.
Weskerr wrote...
Barry Bathernak wrote...
think of this hold long was it till the rest of the world found out about hitlers concentration camps even though there were all those people around knowing what was going on.
Can you elaborate. I'm not sure what your point is.
Thori wrote...
I too, found several points in Smudboy's videos where he absolutely made no valid point and I had feeling he made up something just to prove he is right, but he IS right about 80% of the stuff. He nicely analyzed title of DA2 , by that I mean, Hawke's "Rise to power", and the lack of Hawke's personality and family connections. The point where he says "Plots don't make a person, it is a person who makes the plots" is TOTALLY TRUE. And DA2 is lacking that.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Thori wrote...
I too, found several points in Smudboy's videos where he absolutely made no valid point and I had feeling he made up something just to prove he is right, but he IS right about 80% of the stuff. He nicely analyzed title of DA2 , by that I mean, Hawke's "Rise to power", and the lack of Hawke's personality and family connections. The point where he says "Plots don't make a person, it is a person who makes the plots" is TOTALLY TRUE. And DA2 is lacking that.
indeed. He does have valid points (which I admitted a number of times), but they're primarily stuff that has been echoed on the forums since the game was released. Namely Hawke's Rise to Power, or lack thereof.
Most of his points are valid, and even if they are not new points here, this is just his commentary, his review of everything thats wrong. Of coarse it is going to consist of things already brought up. That doesn't take away his credibility.
KLUME777 wrote...
There were some problems i noticed in his commentary, but overall his analysis was very good at showing DA2's problems. One thing im very passsionate about is retcons. I hate the DA2 retcons, even the Qunari. Yes, they look cool, but it still retconned what was in DA2. And the "some are born without horns" is bull**** for 1. Why was this never mentioned in the DAO codex?
If they had horns, it should have been established in at least a codex, however, the codex goes completely against what DA2 features by stating that all Qunari are "bronze-skinned giants". No mention that most Qunari are pale skinned with horns. Sten should also have brought this up. Also, we saw many Qunari in DAO, like the mercs that were hunting Grey Wardens in Denerim, the group you meet in the random encounter, and Sten's group in the Fade. That is too many Qunari without horns for a rare condition. It is clear that it is a retcon, and if you say otherwise, then you are a retarded blind fanboy, you really are.
I find it funny that there are so many Biodrones nitpicking on a few mistakes the guy makes. Most of his points are valid, and even if they are not new points here, this is just his commentary, his review of everything thats wrong. Of coarse it is going to consist of things already brought up. That doesn't take away his credibility.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:40 .
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
KLUME777 wrote...
There were some problems i noticed in his commentary, but overall his analysis was very good at showing DA2's problems. One thing im very passsionate about is retcons. I hate the DA2 retcons, even the Qunari. Yes, they look cool, but it still retconned what was in DA2. And the "some are born without horns" is bull**** for 1. Why was this never mentioned in the DAO codex?
If they had horns, it should have been established in at least a codex, however, the codex goes completely against what DA2 features by stating that all Qunari are "bronze-skinned giants". No mention that most Qunari are pale skinned with horns. Sten should also have brought this up. Also, we saw many Qunari in DAO, like the mercs that were hunting Grey Wardens in Denerim, the group you meet in the random encounter, and Sten's group in the Fade. That is too many Qunari without horns for a rare condition. It is clear that it is a retcon, and if you say otherwise, then you are a retarded blind fanboy, you really are.
I find it funny that there are so many Biodrones nitpicking on a few mistakes the guy makes. Most of his points are valid, and even if they are not new points here, this is just his commentary, his review of everything thats wrong. Of coarse it is going to consist of things already brought up. That doesn't take away his credibility.
explain to me how something without horns would make a Darkspawn with horns, when the Darkspawn are twisted reflections of the race their broodmother was a part of. Elves and Shrieks have pointy ears, Dwarves and Genlocks have a stocky build and facial hair (at least the Genlock artwork did), Hurlocks are basically humans. And I'm not defending the Chalkspawn, the new shrieks, or the new ogres. My point is that this wouldn't have made sense for the Ogres to have horns and to have come from a hornless creature because the taint doesn't add characteristics to the body. It just distorts them.
It's not so much a retcon as it is a return to an original idea, or at least that's what they claim.
That said, I do agree that the codex in Origins shouldn't have been so specific on what all the Kossith looked like or at least implied that there were various types of Kossith, but Dworking did call them ashen skin giants (which the horned Kossith are. They're gray and ashes usually have a light-gray tone to them).
Still, we still have hornless Kossith like Sten and Mike Laidlaw said he wouldn't magically grow horns. He'd remain a hornless Kossith. So it's not that big of a problem is it?
and I'm not a Biodrone.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Thori wrote...
I too, found several points in Smudboy's videos where he absolutely made no valid point and I had feeling he made up something just to prove he is right, but he IS right about 80% of the stuff. He nicely analyzed title of DA2 , by that I mean, Hawke's "Rise to power", and the lack of Hawke's personality and family connections. The point where he says "Plots don't make a person, it is a person who makes the plots" is TOTALLY TRUE. And DA2 is lacking that.
indeed. He does have valid points (which I admitted a number of times), but they're primarily stuff that has been echoed on the forums since the game was released. Namely Hawke's Rise to Power, or lack thereof.
Modifié par csfteeeer, 05 septembre 2011 - 04:41 .
csfteeeer wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Thori wrote...
I too, found several points in Smudboy's videos where he absolutely made no valid point and I had feeling he made up something just to prove he is right, but he IS right about 80% of the stuff. He nicely analyzed title of DA2 , by that I mean, Hawke's "Rise to power", and the lack of Hawke's personality and family connections. The point where he says "Plots don't make a person, it is a person who makes the plots" is TOTALLY TRUE. And DA2 is lacking that.
indeed. He does have valid points (which I admitted a number of times), but they're primarily stuff that has been echoed on the forums since the game was released. Namely Hawke's Rise to Power, or lack thereof.
Well, that's his problem, he is analysing DA2's plot afterall, so unless the people who have said the story flaws around here, then he has to echoe it doesn't he?
While some of his are inaccuarate and some of the things he explains are actually bugs (which he has admitted in the comment section of his videos, i think), he is certainly right on many places, and it cannot be denied that DA2 has a lot of Incoherences.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
csfteeeer wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Thori wrote...
I too, found several points in Smudboy's videos where he absolutely made no valid point and I had feeling he made up something just to prove he is right, but he IS right about 80% of the stuff. He nicely analyzed title of DA2 , by that I mean, Hawke's "Rise to power", and the lack of Hawke's personality and family connections. The point where he says "Plots don't make a person, it is a person who makes the plots" is TOTALLY TRUE. And DA2 is lacking that.
indeed. He does have valid points (which I admitted a number of times), but they're primarily stuff that has been echoed on the forums since the game was released. Namely Hawke's Rise to Power, or lack thereof.
Well, that's noy his problem, he is analysing DA2's plot afterall, so unless the people who have said the story flaws around here are talking about another game called DA2, then he has to echoe it doesn't he?
While some of his are inaccuarate and some of the things he explains are actually bugs (which he has admitted in the comment section of his videos, i think), he is certainly right on many places, and it cannot be denied that DA2 has a lot of Incoherences.
Thing is, people on here who have seen and mentioned these flaws of DAII are acting like he should receive awards and commendations for mentioning these flaws. My question is: why? I don't mind the echoing of the flaws for those who aren't a member of the BSN, but it's that people on here are acting like he's the first person to notice these flaws and talk about them.
They know the flaws, they've seen the flaws, and they've even mentioned the flaws. Why does one more person saying what they have said deserve so much praise?
Posts on this thread alone have been saying as much for his analysis, and it just boggles my mind why they're overjoyed that much when it's another person saying what's already been said a thousand times.
But that's just me.
Modifié par csfteeeer, 05 septembre 2011 - 04:42 .
jbrand2002uk wrote...
While i agree DA2 has a fair few flaws that should have been done better Origins and its DLC has just as many flaws and is made even more horrendous by the fact it had a 3-4 year Dev cycle,hopefully the mistakes from both games will be rectified by DA3 but it would be unrealistic to expect them to please everyone when EA has their hands on the wallet and lets be honest EA has never been any good at doing anything other than Genre hybrids( notice in the tiger woods games how physics sometimes go out the window)
Alas whatever DA3 turns out to be im sure there will be many things that narks off the DAO fans
as the Fanbase is so much more polorized then any other group i've encounterd
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Oh geez not a smugboy thread over here to. It's bad enough that we have to hear about him in the Mass Effect forums. He was banned from the bsn and he is now infecting youtube with his monotonous irritating droning nitpick about everything voice.
TheEndOfAllThings wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Oh geez not a smugboy thread over here to. It's bad enough that we have to hear about him in the Mass Effect forums. He was banned from the bsn and he is now infecting youtube with his monotonous irritating droning nitpick about everything voice.
Smudboy was on BSN? What was his username?
This should be printed on T-shirts. The level of intelligent, enlightened discourse in the Comments section never fails to fill me with hope for the human race.Maverick827 wrote...
When I think of a repository for intelligent literary analysis, I think of YouTube.
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