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[Illusive1]

Bad King, you are stating little truths that are not connected to the whole underlying tapestry of the ME universe. In the Skyllian Blitz of 2176, we see the human dominance replete. There is no need for a head to head showdown to prove who is mightier. You are right, humans are just swatting the weak **** that the Batarians bring as they bring it. Its like dealing with a cash talking, **** sniffing bee trying to get near your dinner. You just deal with it as it bothers you...with a big ass fly swatter. There is no need to go to the bees nest and kill the hole clan of them.

[Chucky Shepard]

can you give me a sitrep on what a batarian is guys.

[Rorschachinstein]

Batarians should be given a second chance. They can be heroes to.


ehm, Garrus' Batarian squad-mate in omega

[Bad King]

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Illusive1 wrote...

I think Bad King is a Batarian sympathizer. IMO, the Batarians aren't even a respectable group to pull for as underdogs. Neither ME 1 nor 2 develop the useless flesh bags with 6 nostrils. I mean, oxygen is a rare comoditty in space... why should all sentient beings be forced to draw on air recycled through Batarian lungs?

Again, lets just keep the Batarians where they belong: relegated to the edges of space.

For stating facts I get branded a batarian sympathiser?

Nah, dude. You are sympathizing with the 8-nostriled, fleshy bipeds. They always show hostility towards the humans, and pose a threat, even attacking them. Ever heard of the Skyllian Blitz of 2176? Yeah, of course you have'nt. To sum it up, The Batarians attacked the humans, got whooped, then retreated to their own systems outside of citadel space.

Have you even read my posts good sir?

I aint yo good sir, nigguh. And of course I read your posts. Saying the Batarian military never fought the Alliance. The Batarians are slavers and pirates, so I don't know what military you are talking about. The Batarians in Citadel Space, the ones that fought the humans, either fought themselves or used other criminals to attack. The only force of batarians that have fought are the slavers, good nigguh sir 

Nope, the batarian military did not officially get involved for fear of repercussions from the council races. The pirates and slavers were funded by the batarians but were not representing the hegemony's military force. A lot of them weren't even batarians, for example the man in charge (Elanos Haliat from ME1) uses a human model (although he was probably meant to be a turian).

Again, I'm not being an irrational apologist, I am merely stating facts. I'm not condoning what the batarians did, just saying that their actual military is stronger than we perceive.

Modifié par Bad King, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:37 .

[Illusive1]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Batarians should be given a second chance. They can be heroes to.


ehm, Garrus' Batarian squad-mate in omega

Looks like you are joining the ranks of Bad King, Mr. Rorschach. I must respectfully ask you to clear the gangway on the Batarian sympathizer ship. It is full, boarded, and on its way into deep, assbackwards space. Batarians bring nothing to the proverbial table and they are not worthy to govern the universe....they dont even have represntation in the council.  They like to run drugs and sell slaves... sounds like the dregs of the universe to me. 

[Bad King]

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Illusive1 wrote...

I think Bad King is a Batarian sympathizer. IMO, the Batarians aren't even a respectable group to pull for as underdogs. Neither ME 1 nor 2 develop the useless flesh bags with 6 nostrils. I mean, oxygen is a rare comoditty in space... why should all sentient beings be forced to draw on air recycled through Batarian lungs?

Again, lets just keep the Batarians where they belong: relegated to the edges of space.

For stating facts I get branded a batarian sympathiser?

Nah, dude. You are sympathizing with the 8-nostriled, fleshy bipeds. They always show hostility towards the humans, and pose a threat, even attacking them. Ever heard of the Skyllian Blitz of 2176? Yeah, of course you have'nt. To sum it up, The Batarians attacked the humans, got whooped, then retreated to their own systems outside of citadel space.

Have you even read my posts good sir?

I aint yo good sir, nigguh. And of course I read your posts. Saying the Batarian military never fought the Alliance. The Batarians are slavers and pirates, so I don't know what military you are talking about. The Batarians in Citadel Space, the ones that fought the humans, either fought themselves or used other criminals to attack. The only force of batarians that have fought are the slavers, good nigguh sir 

Nope, the batarian military did not officially get involved for fear of repercussions from the council races. The pirates and slavers were funded by the batarians but were not representing the hegemony's military force. A lot of them weren't even batarians, for example the man in charge (Elanos Haliat from ME1) uses a human model (although he was probably meant to be a turian).

Again, I'm not being an irrational apologist, I am merely stating facts. I'm not condoning what the batarians did, just saying that their actual military is stronger than we perceive.

Where's your source, Good Sir? In Mass Effect, the only Batarians encountered are slavers. You have nothing upon with you can support the fact that their military is relatively strong based on people's perception of "stronger"

Quoted from earlier in the thread:

Bad King wrote...

Balak implies that the batarian military was weaker than the Alliance military.

However,
they still appear to have an effective nationalised arms manufacturer
(mostly chemical weapons and armour) and they also have a Special
Intervention Unit who's agents go through a brutal training regime. They
are also confirmed to have dreadnoughts and they probably control the
Leviathan of Dis- an enormous and ancient genetically engineered
starship (however that could have simply been a Farscape reference that
isn't to be taken seriously).

There's a bit more on wiki: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Batarian#Military

Modifié par Bad King, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:44 .

[Bad King]

Illusive1 wrote...

Bad King, you are stating little truths that are not connected to the whole underlying tapestry of the ME universe. In the Skyllian Blitz of 2176, we see the human dominance replete. There is no need for a head to head showdown to prove who is mightier. You are right, humans are just swatting the weak **** that the Batarians bring as they bring it. Its like dealing with a cash talking, **** sniffing bee trying to get near your dinner. You just deal with it as it bothers you...with a big ass fly swatter. There is no need to go to the bees nest and kill the hole clan of them.

There we go. Will you admit that I'm not a sympathiser now? It hurt my feelings.

Modifié par Bad King, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:47 .

[Illusive1]

Bad King wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Illusive1 wrote...

I think Bad King is a Batarian sympathizer. IMO, the Batarians aren't even a respectable group to pull for as underdogs. Neither ME 1 nor 2 develop the useless flesh bags with 6 nostrils. I mean, oxygen is a rare comoditty in space... why should all sentient beings be forced to draw on air recycled through Batarian lungs?

Again, lets just keep the Batarians where they belong: relegated to the edges of space.

For stating facts I get branded a batarian sympathiser?

Nah, dude. You are sympathizing with the 8-nostriled, fleshy bipeds. They always show hostility towards the humans, and pose a threat, even attacking them. Ever heard of the Skyllian Blitz of 2176? Yeah, of course you have'nt. To sum it up, The Batarians attacked the humans, got whooped, then retreated to their own systems outside of citadel space.

Have you even read my posts good sir?

I aint yo good sir, nigguh. And of course I read your posts. Saying the Batarian military never fought the Alliance. The Batarians are slavers and pirates, so I don't know what military you are talking about. The Batarians in Citadel Space, the ones that fought the humans, either fought themselves or used other criminals to attack. The only force of batarians that have fought are the slavers, good nigguh sir 

Nope, the batarian military did not officially get involved for fear of repercussions from the council races. The pirates and slavers were funded by the batarians but were not representing the hegemony's military force. A lot of them weren't even batarians, for example the man in charge (Elanos Haliat from ME1) uses a human model (although he was probably meant to be a turian).

Again, I'm not being an irrational apologist, I am merely stating facts. I'm not condoning what the batarians did, just saying that their actual military is stronger than we perceive.

Where's your source, Good Sir? In Mass Effect, the only Batarians encountered are slavers. You have nothing upon with you can support the fact that their military is relatively strong based on people's perception of "stronger"

Quoted from earlier in the thread:

Bad King wrote...

Balak implies that the batarian military was weaker than the Alliance military.

However,
they still appear to have an effective nationalised arms manufacturer
(mostly chemical weapons and armour) and they also have a Special
Intervention Unit who's agents go through a brutal training regime. They
are also confirmed to have dreadnoughts and they probably control the
Leviathan of Dis- an enormous and ancient genetically engineered
starship (however that could have simply been a Farscape reference that
isn't to be taken seriously).

There's a bit more on wiki: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Batarian#Military

Speculation.<_<

[JonnyOwen]

They really cannot be as strong as the Alliance, or in-fact any Council race. If they were strong they would impose themselves as a dominant force and not be reserved with their military. Surely they would see that having a large intimidating fleet that the Galaxy knows about would benefit them greatly as a race.

[Bad King]

@Illusive1 Nope. We know that they have a dreadnought from ME1 planet descriptions. Also, the PC version of ME1 gives a full description of batarian state arms:

"The batarian
government does not trust private industry to create their military
hardware. BSA is a vast nationalized institution infamous for its waste
and corruption. It produces effective, if unethical, chemical weapons and a line of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological (NBC) protective armor."

Modifié par Bad King, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:51 .

[Illusive1]

Bad King wrote...

Illusive1 wrote...

Bad King, you are stating little truths that are not connected to the whole underlying tapestry of the ME universe. In the Skyllian Blitz of 2176, we see the human dominance replete. There is no need for a head to head showdown to prove who is mightier. You are right, humans are just swatting the weak **** that the Batarians bring as they bring it. Its like dealing with a cash talking, **** sniffing bee trying to get near your dinner. You just deal with it as it bothers you...with a big ass fly swatter. There is no need to go to the bees nest and kill the hole clan of them.

There we go. Will you admit that I'm not a sympathiser now? It hurt my feelings.

Hah, I am now suspecting you to be less of a sympathiser and more of a human defector.

[Illusive1]

Bad King wrote...

@Illusive1 Nope. We know that they have a dreadnought from ME1 planet descriptions.

You're right....but, what good do juggernauts do when the Alliance has more funding and can just roll up and glass the planet?

[Bad King]

Illusive1 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

@Illusive1 Nope. We know that they have a dreadnought from ME1 planet descriptions.

You're right....but, what good do juggernauts do when the Alliance has more funding and can just roll up and glass the planet?

The Alliance are most likely militarily stronger than the Hegemony, however my point stands that the batarian military is stronger than many people on this thread seem to think.

[Bad King]

Zeta030 wrote...

You are pulling this out of your head, kid. They "probably" have this and they "probably" have that. I have a million dollars and several private jets.
Balak did say that the batarian military is weak in comparison to the Alliance. They are known to have one dreadnought, and maybe other ships that are very ineffective. The training program can be as brutal as all hell, that doesn't mean the military is "stronger than one might think"

It does because you came on this thread originally stating that the batarian military consisted of pirates and raiders.

"I aint yo good sir, nigguh. And of course I read your posts. Saying the
Batarian military never fought the Alliance. The Batarians are slavers
and pirates, so I don't know what military you are talking about. The
Batarians in Citadel Space, the ones that fought the humans, either
fought themselves or used other criminals to attack. The only force of
batarians that have fought are the slavers, good nigguh sir"

And I have evidence to prove that:

1. The batarians have at least 1 dreadnought.
2. The government owns an effective arms manufacturer.
3. There is a batarian special forces unit.

So these aren't just pirates and slavers we're dealing with.

Modifié par Bad King, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:59 .

[Therefore_I_Am]

The Batarians are like the African governments of today. They have first world technology but have third world policies. (The batarians still have a caste system that includes slavery, slavery being a normal standard amongst their people)
It's also said that the batarians are severely disorganized due to the fact that the different nations on their homeworld are still having centuries-old wars, which have probably diminished their resources and wealth, which in turn effects their military and economy.
So just because they have achieved spaceflight way before us, doesn't make them volumes ahead of us especially when you have their culture & policies to consider. So far we get the impression that they are a very quick-to-anger species, and their social ladder is filled with nothing but brutality. Brutality that almost rivals the krogans.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 03 septembre 2011 - 03:59 .

[Travie]

If the batarians decide to fight, they are goin in first.

Just sayin.

[Rorschachinstein]

Zeta030 wrote...

You are pulling this out of your head, kid. They "probably" have this and they "probably" have that. I have a million dollars and several private jets.
Balak did say that the batarian military is weak in comparison to the Alliance. They are known to have one dreadnought, and maybe other ships that are very ineffective. The training program can be as brutal as all hell, that doesn't mean the military is "stronger than one might think"

"probably" falls in line with your comments as well. You can't say the Batarians have a weak military if you know very little about besides random characters comments.

[Illusive1]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Zeta030 wrote...

You are pulling this out of your head, kid. They "probably" have this and they "probably" have that. I have a million dollars and several private jets.
Balak did say that the batarian military is weak in comparison to the Alliance. They are known to have one dreadnought, and maybe other ships that are very ineffective. The training program can be as brutal as all hell, that doesn't mean the military is "stronger than one might think"

"probably" falls in line with your comments as well. You can't say the Batarians have a weak military if you know very little about besides random characters comments.

Hey guy, why cant you wrap your head around the fact that Batarians suck? Therefore_I_Am just gave an excellent exposition on the sad reality of the little ****s sniffers.

Modifié par Illusive1, 03 septembre 2011 - 04:02 .

[1136342t54_]

JonnyOwen wrote...

They really cannot be as strong as the Alliance, or in-fact any Council race. If they were strong they would impose themselves as a dominant force and not be reserved with their military. Surely they would see that having a large intimidating fleet that the Galaxy knows about would benefit them greatly as a race.

The Batarians aren't barred by the Citadel Dreadnought treaty and are willing to use all types of WMDs. I'd say they could give the SA a run for their money quite easily. Hell the SA actually would like to avoid war with them since they know it would not be a easy win at all. The Turians at full power would utterly destroy them though.

[1136342t54_]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

The Batarians are like the African governments of today. They have first world technology but have third world policies. (The batarians still have a caste system that includes slavery, slavery being a normal standard amongst their people)
It's also said that the batarians are severely disorganized due to the fact that the different nations on their homeworld are still having centuries-old wars, which have probably diminished their resources and wealth, which in turn effects their military and economy.
So just because they have achieved spaceflight way before us, doesn't make them volumes ahead of us especially when you have their culture & policies to consider. So far we get the impression that they are a very quick-to-anger species, and their social ladder is filled with nothing but brutality. Brutality that almost rivals the krogans.

To be more accurate they are a mix of India and North Korea.

[Bad King]

Travie wrote...

If the batarians decide to fight, they are goin in first.

Just sayin.

Fingers crossed they'll do a bit of damage to the reaper ships. If necessary, I am willing to fight side by side with the batarians against the greater threat- the reapers, if they offer their aid in ME3.

Modifié par Bad King, 03 septembre 2011 - 04:03 .