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[BlahblahIV]

To be honest I notice a trend in BioWare games. They seem to be sexing up characters and opting for large pronounced breasts. For example, in ME1 Liara and Ashley were both armored and quite modestly dressed. In ME2 just about every female member of the party opts out of armor, instead going for whatever outfit shows off more chest. With Miranda I can kinda understand, she was genetically modified to be beautiful, but Samara? By the Goddess, I'm pretty sure half her biotic capabilities are wasted in trying to keep her upright. Now we see ME3 where Liara seems to have fallen into a bicycle pump chest first (compared to ME1).Sigh. I'm not trying to be a prude, nor am I insisting that BioWare design all female characters with no bust, but just...c'mon.

As far as the statue goes it certainly looks well crafted, Like most I'm not a fan of the design, mostly just because I've never been a huge fan of anime in general.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Two other angles not in the OP:






If this prototype gets approved for production then sadly I will not be getting it.  The face is all wrong, even compared to the concept drawing.  It doesn't even resemble her in ME1 when she had her most youthful appearance out of all the games, even in an anime style.  It's the structure and age that are off.

I know that the style of statues from this line are exaggerated sexually, and I could even live with the body the way it is seen in this prototype (sigh, even the huge whammers being pushed together by her arms... ), but the face is a deal breaker for me.

Quite frankly I'm also kind of disgusted that they went with an open-top-cleavage-exposed outfit as can be seen in the first image in my post.  Now, I know that it could just be skin-tight fabric of some sort (since the prototype is unpainted) because it is black in the concept art for the sculpture but considering the nature of the rest of Koto's statues, I'm honestly expecting that they will paint it skin-blue, especially since her actual LotSB clothing was not open in the chest area like that.

It's a pity because the actual craftsmanship appears to be superb.

(Also the basement nerd in me has to point out the sculpted eyebrows which are supposed to only be skin pigment but that is a trivial detail overall and would not be even close to a deal breaker for me. )

Modifié par Mighty_BOB_cnc, 03 septembre 2011 - 09:34 .

[darklordpocky-san]

I love reading all the hate in here for one figure

it's hilarious how much people can't get over lady-parts and esthetic art styles

but oh well~

this is the internet

Modifié par darklordpocky-san, 03 septembre 2011 - 09:33 .

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

You have to keep in mind though: Neither EA nor BioWare made this design. Some Japanese figurine company did.

Addendum to my previous post: Does "renowned illustrator Shunya Yama****a" work for BioWare? No? In that case BioWare did not make this design. If anything they simply commissioned it. Still doesn't mean I have to like it, though.

I didn't pay enough attention to the caption first time around.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 03 septembre 2011 - 09:38 .

[azerSheppard]

Apparently people either don't know anything about anime, more precisely the bishoujo art style, or think that it's beneath them, since they are into more intell things, such as poetry and touchy feelings.

It's boobs, deal with it.

[BatmanPWNS]

Wait a minute people hate on anime here?
Wow, never thought I'd find a place like that.

[Hathur]

Ugh... at least western males have an obsession with adult females - I can live with their endless need / want to over sexualize women... or at least I can understand it.

But I'll never understand the... disturbing.. behavior of some Japanese art / anime.... they almost seem to have an obession / desire to" "I want to fantasize having sex with an under age little girl... but society says that's wrong... so let's just draw a little girl's face but give her a woman's body... yeaaah, now it's ok and I won't be thrown in jail."

Then again... they also seem to like to draw anime girls that have child-like features both in their face and figure.... and then sexualize them with absurdly short skirts and ceaseless up-skirt panty shots or suggestive poses / actions.... then they make sure to point out in the story that this girl is actually in their late teens or even young adult, but is clearly designed to look like a child. Goodness I'll never understand how their society tolerates that in the slightest... scares me.

Modifié par Hathur, 03 septembre 2011 - 09:48 .

[Sable Phoenix]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Wait a minute people hate on anime here?
Wow, never thought I'd find a place like that.

Because anime is ridiculously stylized and slavishly formulaic. Also, it's often hyper-sexualized.

Not to mention they seem to like pasting pre-pubescent faces onto exaggerated-supermodel bodies.  Which is exactly what they did to Liara.  It's gross.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 03 septembre 2011 - 09:51 .

[adneate]

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JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 03 septembre 2011 - 10:59 .

[Hathur]

adneate wrote...

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JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

Bless you, kind sir. 

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 03 septembre 2011 - 11:00 .

[Dragoonlordz]

I think people are way too immersed in their fictional virtual romances with certain characters in a video game that anything that doesn't fit into their perfect ideological view of that character is blasphemy and on top of that there is a very large anti-anime population on BSN.

They have now combined forces in here to spout gibberish and hate because the topic is about a) a romance character which has called (some of) the Liara love brigade to arms and has anime style design to the figure which has brought in reinforcements from the anti-anime forces to battle together against the single lone inanimate figurine.

Seriously people get a grip, if the art style doesn't suit you; don't buy. If your offended by breasts, don't buy. If you hate anime with a vengence then don't buy. If you don't think it has been crafted with enough care or believe paint will be bad than again don't buy. If you think it desecrates your virtual love of a fictional character then don't buy... Then move on with your life.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 03 septembre 2011 - 10:02 .

[Ophiskc]

azerSheppard wrote...

Apparently people either don't know anything about anime, more precisely the bishoujo art style, or think that it's beneath them, since they are into more intell things, such as poetry and touchy feelings.

It's boobs, deal with it.

That is anime style dont make an excuse for this huge breasts, the others statues of the same company have them more moderate, but they over did it with the Liara one, also it doesnt follow the proportions of the original draw from the artist. Feels like they just messed up.
And the fact that they sculpt "eyebrows" just show they dont know the character or asari in general at all.

Modifié par Ophiskc, 03 septembre 2011 - 09:53 .

[darklordpocky-san]

I take it back

the last 5 or so comments are even better

now we've got racists in here; yay~

[Ophiskc]

Rezources wrote...

Are people really complaining about how they further sexualized the token sexy species in Mass Effect?

If it would be an Omega stripper i wouldnt care, but is Liara, probably the least sexualized asari on the game, and even less than some of the humans ones. This is so out of character that is painful. I was thinking into buying it, but it became a let down

Modifié par Ophiskc, 03 septembre 2011 - 10:00 .

[BatmanPWNS]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Wait a minute people hate on anime here?
Wow, never thought I'd find a place like that.

Because anime is ridiculously stylized and slavishly formulaic. Also, it's often hyper-sexualized.

Not to mention they seem to like pasting pre-pubescent faces onto exaggerated-supermodel bodies.  Which is exactly what they did to Liara.  It's gross.

Movies, video games and comic books all seem to have hyper-sexualized character with males and females. It's nothing new to this world.  Beside Anime is a term of Japanese animation.

But I agree that this doesn't feel Liara. She isn't the type that tries to look good for the camera. This picture would look better with someone like Miranda.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 03 septembre 2011 - 10:01 .

[Ajosraa]

Captain Crash wrote...

Bare in mind this is the artistic style Kotobukiya do.  If your not a fan of it then I would say this figurine is not for you. 

Personally I quite like it.  Her face is slightly off, but that my only real complaint.  

This discribes my feelings quite well on said Liara statue. I think it will be the first anime statue i buy tbh. To each their own i suppose.

[Dragoonlordz]

Ophiskc wrote...

Rezources wrote...

Are people really complaining about how they further sexualized the token sexy species in Mass Effect?

If it would be an Omega stripper i wouldnt care, but is Liara, probably the least sexualized asari on the game, and even less than some of the humans ones. This is so out of character that is painful. I was thinking into buying it, but it became a let down

http://social.biowar...59447/4#8260581

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 03 septembre 2011 - 10:04 .

[Hathur]

darklordpocky-san wrote...

I take it back

the last 5 or so comments are even better

now we've got racists in here; yay~

Right, because disliking the art style of a different culture makes one racist (or being uncomfortable with their obsession with making sexualized characters that also appear child-like also makes one a racist?)

I dislike cabbage. Russians love cabbage (well, maybe not love.. but they sure eat more of it than other nations)... apparently that makes me "racist" towards Russians too.

I don't overly care for pasta either.... I guess that makes me "racist" towards Italians?

I can't stand coffee, I hate the taste.... so clearly that means I want to commit mass genocide against all Columbians... right? 

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I think people are way too immersed in their fictional virtual romances with certain characters in a video game that anything that doesn't fit into their perfect ideological view of that character is blasphemy and on top of that there is a very large anti-anime population on BSN.

Right, because the three thousand+ comments on the Facebook post/gallery asking for feedback are all people from the BSN.  The response over there is pretty much the same as it is here; i.e. mixed but a lot of it is pointing out the same general critiques: the boobs are huge and the face doesn't look like the character.

[Crackseed]

I think it looks great personally and will probably pick one up to compliment the Sheploo statue I got from Bioware. I know it is a bit over-sexualized, but that's kind of the way Koto does their statues for alot of prominent female characters. It'll look alot less "childish" with paint on too.

[Ophiskc]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

http://social.biowar...59447/4#8260581

The statue is still off from the original artist draw, and i would think the same if it would be an Omega stripper, but i wouldnt care enough to point it out.

Is that clear enough for you or should i explain it with apples?

[Dragoonlordz]

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I think people are way too immersed in their fictional virtual romances with certain characters in a video game that anything that doesn't fit into their perfect ideological view of that character is blasphemy and on top of that there is a very large anti-anime population on BSN.

Right, because the three thousand+ comments on the Facebook post/gallery asking for feedback are all people from the BSN.  The response over there is pretty much the same as it is here; i.e. mixed but a lot of it is pointing out the same general critiques: the boobs are huge and the face doesn't look like the character.

It may have escaped your attention but BSN users such as myself and yourself are also registered on other sites like for example Facebook. Of which we all tend to say the same thing on there as do here.