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[shiftylookingspacecow]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

As soon as renegade choices start backfiring let me know.

But...but....i didn't get that email from that person i killed in ME1!! BioWare caters to paragons!

[TheOptimist]

shiftylookingspacecow wrote...

Sorry for kinda throwing this off topic, but the "let the bad guy go to save people or kill him to save more people" choice never made sense to me. Don't we have the baddest frigate in the galaxy just sitting in orbit? why not 'spare' them, save the hostages, then tell Joker to blow Balak or Vido out of the sky?

You are not the only person to wonder why this particular strategy could not be employed.  In fact, until and unless Balak decides to show up again, this is my official head-canon, because it makes so much more sense than the other two options.

[shiftylookingspacecow]

TheOptimist wrote...

shiftylookingspacecow wrote...

Sorry for kinda throwing this off topic, but the "let the bad guy go to save people or kill him to save more people" choice never made sense to me. Don't we have the baddest frigate in the galaxy just sitting in orbit? why not 'spare' them, save the hostages, then tell Joker to blow Balak or Vido out of the sky?

You are not the only person to wonder why this particular strategy could not be employed.  In fact, until and unless Balak decides to show up again, this is my official head-canon, because it makes so much more sense than the other two options.

Im writing a fanfic based on encountering Vido in a totally different way

[PrinceLionheart]

Hey look, it's this thread again.

[GreenDragon37]

Choices should have a positive and negative. Technically, Renegades should have seen what was coming if they overthrew the Council and established a Human-only/ Human dominated Council: the aliens wouldn't ****ing like it.

However, I bet many Paragon decisions will have a negative. If you spare the Rachni Queen, it could cause friction between the other races, because they don't trust them. The regular Council could be more un-prepared for a Reaper Invasion. Keeping the Genophage Cure is an obvious point of contention. And then there's Elnora, Balak, and maybe even Rana (it was implied that we should have killed her). Also, I imagine that if negotiations between the Quarians and the Geth fail, the choices you made will affect which side you would support. For example: re-writing Heretics and going to war would badly affect the Quarain's chances of victory.

Technically, I wouldn't say Renegade decisions didn't bite them in the butt. They knew what they were getting when they overthrew the Council and killed all of those people.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 05 septembre 2011 - 02:41 .

[KotorEffect3]

Montezuma IV wrote...

The FINAL POINT: You act like an a**hole. You get treated like an a**hole.

Yep part of me hopes that  earth burns for those that were extreme renegades in their playthroughs.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

My choices never backfire. I'm that awesome.

[Funkcase]

I'm sure I read in the Twitter thread somewhere that not all paragon/renegade choices are the best choice. I expect some (atleast one big one) will backfire.

[Ghar Thurion]

If paragon choices will backfire, i hope renegade choices will as well. Although minor, it would be fun if the fact that if you punched Al Jilani in ME and ME 2, that you get that against you in the start of ME 3.

[Juniper Mucius]

Don't krogan in particular respond better to renegade choices as opposed to paragon choices? I have a feeling that using renegade with the krogan will assist you better in the game.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Ghar Thurion wrote...

If paragon choices will backfire, i hope renegade choices will as well. Although minor, it would be fun if the fact that if you punched Al Jilani in ME and ME 2, that you get that against you in the start of ME 3.

I just want to hit her again.

YAY PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST THE MEDIA!

[GodWood]

Montezuma IV wrote...
The FINAL POINT: You act like an a**hole. You get treated like an a**hole.

Ahh typical self righteous paragonism.
Dismissing the logic and pragmaticism of renegade choices as nothing but acting like an a-hole

Modifié par GodWood, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:06 .

[Moonshadow_Dark]

GodWood wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...
The FINAL POINT: You act like an a**hole. You get treated like an a**hole.

Ahh typical self righteous paragonism.
Dismissing the logic and pragmaticism of renegade choices as nothing but acting like an ****.

Isn't that what being a Renegade was all about?

Be a Jerk and get crap done, no matter what anyone else said?

[GodWood]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
Isn't that what being a Renegade was all about?

Be a Jerk and get crap done, no matter what anyone else said?

No.

[Someone With Mass]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

As soon as renegade choices start backfiring let me know.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

GodWood wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
Isn't that what being a Renegade was all about?

Be a Jerk and get crap done, no matter what anyone else said?

No.

Well that just made being a Renagade 20% lamer.

[GodWood]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
As soon as renegade choices start backfiring let me know.

Sacrifice the Council and put Udina in charge.

Council races hate you.
The Council won't see you.
And you lose your Spectre status.

That's seems like a choice backfiring to me.

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
You can't say that EVERY renegade choice is like logical and pragmatic.

The majority of them are.

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
Isn't that what being a Renegade was all about?

Be a Jerk and get crap done, no matter what anyone else said?

No.

Well that just made being a Renagade 20% lamer.

Sorreh

Modifié par GodWood, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:18 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You can't say that EVERY renegade choice is like logical and pragmatic.

Aside from the big decisions that also concern Cerberus, they are.

[Someone With Mass]

GodWood wrote...
Sacrifice the Council and put Udina in charge.

Council races hate you.
The Council won't see you.
And you lose your Spectre status.

That's seems like a choice backfiring to me.

Uh, yeah. Anyone can see that backfiring. Just because the choice is there doesn't mean you have to take it. Because then it's not that much of a choice, isn't it?

Also, killing the Council isn't a Renegade choice. Putting Udina on the seat is.

Losing your Spectre status for good is completely your own fault too.

[Drone223]

[Big I]

Paragon choices I expect to have harmful consequences, but still made anyway:

-sparing Vido
-sparing Balak
-sparing Elnora
-sparing Rana
-sparing Talid
-sparing the civilian population in the N7: Javelin Missiles assignment, ensuring the failure of the colony.

Paragon choices I expect to have complications but am confident will lead to a net benefit in ME3:

-saving the genophage data
-rewriting the heretics
-sparing the rachni queen