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[Sir Buliwyf]

I'm a little late to the NWN2 Party so please forgive my noobishness.

I've just started the first game. I have no mods at all. I play single player only.

I can't tell who is who on my screen, especially since all my party are in stoneskin. When the orcs or whatever swarm my party all I can see is a big clump of people and i can't distinguish friend from foe without mouse over each character or constantly holding down tab (changed from Z).
Here it comes:
Back in BG2, (whine for the good old days of BG2) there used to be nice convenient little circles under each character. You never really appreciate them until they're gone. Please tell me there is some sort of mod out there that gives these. I've looked but there is just a sea of stuff, i can't find anything useful.

Any tips?

[kamal_]

Yes, it's bad. Try
http://nwvault.ign.c...ts.Detail&id=61
or one of the similar packs that override the default spell effects with less intrusive ones, like this one
http://nwvault.ign.c...ts.Detail&id=12

Modifié par kamal_, 05 septembre 2011 - 06:04 .

[Sir Buliwyf]

Thanks, that'll improve things a little but in low light situations it's still the same. I still want my circles or some form of friend or foe indicator...

[PJ156]

The z key will highlight foes but only while you have it pressed. Still it can be useful sorting the screen out.

[M. Rieder]

It does take some getting used to, but with time it gets easier. One thing that helps me is using "exploration mode" for my view setting. That lets me rotate the camera around the party to achieve a better vantage point. Best of luck!

[foil-]

Whoa, wait a second.  The circles can still be there in the right camera mode. It acts much like Baldur's Gate except they are blue circles.

Make sure your game is updated to version 1.23.

Once you are up to date you will have 3 camera option icons. See below (click to enlarge):


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Look on the bottom horizontal quick bar.  Look on the right hand side of that bar.  The icons are the telescope, the square (select rectangle), and the bust outline.

If you don't have those, you are not up to date.

What version of the game do you have (i.e., Steam, gold, etc)

Once you select the tactical camera angle (square selection icon), you can drag a bounding box around your characters. The blue circles will appear at the feet of all selected. Alternatively you can use the button to select all characters. I have mine bound to the = sign since that's what I was use to from Baldur's Gates days.  And finally, you can select a character by clicking on their portrait or shift clicking multiple character (just like BG if I recall).

This engine paid attention to the BG games then improved on it. Once you get use to the variety of control you will find your BG mojo again.

Modifié par foil-, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:33 .

[Sir Buliwyf]

I Have Steam Platinum edition so it's about as up to date as it's going to be. Didn't realise the different camera modes affected the interface. I now have my selection box and my circles at least when have them selected so I am happy. Thank you.

[Banshe]

@ foil: Where did you get that area? Looks very well crafted...

[Sir Buliwyf]

It does look very nice.

[foil-]

Banshe wrote...

@ foil: Where did you get that area? Looks very well crafted...

We started a thread a few weeks back about beautiful screen shots: http://social.biowar...2/index/8157463

M. Rieder posted that one.  I'm sure he'd be happy to hear the praise.

Feel free to post some of your own.  It's been a long time since I posted on these forums, but you were responsible for making the cherry blossom tree weren't you?  Those would make some nice screen shots.

Modifié par foil-, 06 septembre 2011 - 10:56 .

[Banshe]

Haha. I wasn't the one who made the cherry blossoms, just the intended recipient. I believe it was kamal.

[dunniteowl]

Just an FYI, you can mouse over your character portraits and the character will highlight on the map. Pausing is always a useful thing in these circumstances.

dno

[kamal_]

Banshe wrote...

Haha. I wasn't the one who made the cherry blossoms, just the intended recipient. I believe it was kamal.

Yes, that was me. I wrote up how to make your own particle vfx as a tutorial on the Vault, and the wuxia style cherry blossoms are one example. nwvault.ign.com/View.php

[foil-]

I knew it was either you or Banshe. When you didn't post any on the beautiful screen shots thread I thought my memory was faulty.

[kamal_]

I no longer have that vfx. Banshe should since I made it for him. And the tutorial tells you exactly how to make one.

Modifié par kamal_, 07 septembre 2011 - 12:29 .

[foil-]

I'm pretty sure I still have the videos you put together saved somewhere. I should dig them up and post them on the weekend.

[Sir Buliwyf]

dunniteowl wrote...

Just an FYI, you can mouse over your character portraits and the character will highlight on the map. Pausing is always a useful thing in these circumstances.

dno

Indeed, but the idea was to have some sort of permenant indicator visible both in the dark and through most spell effects without having to constantly to mouse over or press tab (or Z).

Changing the camera view so i can now band box to select all my guys easily is not perfect but it goes some way to help.

I avoided NWN2 for so long because I hated NWN 1 much but I am finding that the are not at all similar and I am really enjoying it so far. I just picked up Bishop who is pretty annoying but I have to take him for now :/ Qara is a **** too. I like Neeshka. Casavir is also pretty cool but I'd have preferred his luitennant but sadly she wasn't a possible party member.

[The Fred]

Bishop, Qara and Neeshka are all annoying, IMO.

You can't get Kana as a party member, but there's something I could say which I'm not going to because it's a spoiler (not really a significant one, IMO, but even saying what I have said could annoy some people). ;-)

[Clyordes]

Welcome to the party,

If the companions you have at the moment are a little too annoying, you could jump straight to Storm of Zehir campaign - if I remember right, it allows you to create your own party of 1st level characters (its not connected to the other two stock campaigns).

Have fun & keep asking questions if its not working how you'd like.

Cly.

[foil-]

I imagine if you replayed the game several times any of the characters could become annoying. I only found Qara slightly annoying. Neeshka rates among one of my favorite companion characters in a game. Found her endearing and cute with some fun banter with other members. Casavir was pretty much dry as cardboard.

I would say the characters in this game are as good as any BioWare has made in the Dragon Age series. Different, but still entertaining.

[Sir Buliwyf]

The Fred wrote...

Bishop, Qara and Neeshka are all annoying, IMO.

You can't get Kana as a party member, but there's something I could say which I'm not going to because it's a spoiler (not really a significant one, IMO, but even saying what I have said could annoy some people). ;-)

but but buuut??? whhaaat? you can't say stuff like that! Now I have to know! Haha, I guess I shall wait.

I'm all for having proper made companions rather than home made ones with no personality at all. Bishop deserves a slap in the face. After looking at sorcerer's place and finding out which characters are ultimately available, I've decided to go for Casavir, elanee
and Ammon Jeero when he comes along, for now Sand. Qara is a great spellcaster but I find myself feeling quite happy every time she dies in a fight! It's a shame the party size is so restricted because I'd like to take neeshka too but I just can't fit her in.

[foil-]

I forgot about Sand. Matrix dude. He cracked me up.

As for party limits, there are mods that will allow you to add as many companions as you like, but the game balance gets severely altered by just adding even one extra character.

For me, this was a non-issue. I only play games once generally so I eventually used this add on to see all the party interactions and get all the stories. That was more interesting for me than game balance. There are plenty of community made modules to play with tactics and are of a higher difficulty level to start with. The original campaign (OC) is excellent for new D&D players but is a bit on the easy side for most people who followed D&D games for the last couple decades. And there is also the Storm of Zehir expansion for a bit more challenge once people get their feet wet in the OC. For me, the Mask of the Betrayer expansion was mostly forgettable but the general concensus is that its an excellent story and good challenge. I didn't feel the need in MotB to bring along all the companions either.

[Sir Buliwyf]

Well, all the expansions came part of the Steam special offer of Platinum edition so I'll be playing them all anyway.

[RodentDung]

If you set the behavior for each character beforehand they will perform well in combat without you micromanaging each person so you don't need to know exactly where each one is during a fight. My party goes nuts during fights while I do my own thing and everything works out. With the broken camera in this game it is impossible to see properly anyways cause any box, doorway or large summoned creature will completely block your view everything.

The only problem is in this game characters do not switch from ranged to melee weapons when attacked in melee. In the Icewind Dale games your characters always auto-switched to melee weapons when attacked in melee but now they taking a terrible whooping while using a twig of a shortbow as a weapon in melee. I don't have the micromanagement ability to keep switching them manually so I pick a couple of ranged people and set everyone else to melee before going into combat. Summoned animals make up for the weakness of having ranged people.

[RodentDung]

foil- wrote...

I forgot about Sand. Matrix dude. He cracked me up.

As for party limits, there are mods that will allow you to add as many companions as you like, but the game balance gets severely altered by just adding even one extra character.

For me, this was a non-issue. I only play games once generally so I eventually used this add on to see all the party interactions and get all the stories. That was more interesting for me than game balance. There are plenty of community made modules to play with tactics and are of a higher difficulty level to start with. The original campaign (OC) is excellent for new D&D players but is a bit on the easy side for most people who followed D&D games for the last couple decades. And there is also the Storm of Zehir expansion for a bit more challenge once people get their feet wet in the OC. For me, the Mask of the Betrayer expansion was mostly forgettable but the general concensus is that its an excellent story and good challenge. I didn't feel the need in MotB to bring along all the companions either.

If you are finding the game too easy make sure you set the difficulty to hardcore D&D rules which is basically regular rules from the pen & paper game. Like my friend played this game when I recommended it but he is a dummy and left it on easy so he finished the game in a day or two (he says) but he never changes the default settings on games. I'm not even sure this was the game he played cause he only says 'meh' when I asked how the game was. Maybe he was playing minecraft or COD which tend to leave people dazed and brain-numbed if they play those games for an hour or more.