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[armass]

A good thing, bad thing?

Your toughts please.

I find it odd they became a spectre so quickly. Intresting to see what the backstory will be for this and how different spectres Ashley and Kaidan are from eachother.

Modifié par armass, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:01 .

[Darth Wraith]

Quickly? Remember, it's been two years since ME1.

Personally I think it's a great thing. Gives BioWare a chance to show the VS outside the Alliance military, exploring different sides to their personality as they get used to being essentially a solo operative with broad authority rather than a cog in a large machine.

[armass]

Darth Wraith wrote...

Quickly? Remember, it's been two years since ME1.

Personally I think it's a great thing. Gives BioWare a chance to show the VS outside the Alliance military, exploring different sides to their personality as they get used to being essentially a solo operative with broad authority rather than a cog in a large machine.

I don't think the VS was a spectre when you met him/her on Horizon...

All Anderson said was that He/she was promoted and working for alliance...

Modifié par armass, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:05 .

[KotorEffect3]

We don't know what the VS has been up to since ME 1 other than Horizon.

[Made Nightwing]

Prothy the Prothean wrote...

There are two reasons why seemingly ineligible individuals are raised to stations above their competence: nepotism or covert internal investigation.

My money is on currently undisclosed badassery.

[KotorEffect3]

I guess the spectres didn't let Ash keep her Phoenix armor

[Kaiser Shepard]

Prothy the Prothean wrote...

There are two reasons why seemingly ineligible individuals are raised to stations above their competence: nepotism or covert internal investigation.

So Ashley is actually Col. Campbell's daughter?

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:09 .

[Heimdall]

Seems good to me.

@Prothy the Prothean, I'm not sure what makes them ineligible.

[Someone With Mass]

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

[Heimdall]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

  I don't anyone on the crew that saved the citadel from Sovereign would be considered a nobody.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:15 .

[mopotter]

I like it. I think both of them have good qualities for the job, but mostly, I like that a spectre doesn't have to have orders to help Shepard from the top brass. A spectre can decide Shepard needs help and go for it.

[crimzontearz]

As long as she owns up to her bull**** I don't care what ashley does

[Someone With Mass]

Lord Aesir wrote...
I don't anyone on the crew that saved the citadel from Sovereign would be considered a nobody.

Having a fancy title/rep doesn't mean that you have the abilities required to be a Spectre, though.

[KotorEffect3]

crimzontearz wrote...

As long as she owns up to her bull**** I don't care what ashley does

I like Ash but I do have some choice words for her.

[Robhuzz]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

I got a feeling the council made the VS a spectre so they had someone close to Shepard who could intervene if Shepard did something the council didn't like. A normal Alliance soldier, no matter his/her rank, does not have the authority to intervene with a Spectre's business but another Spectre clearly does. Seems like a political move. Nihlus says only the very best get asked for the Spectres. While the VS is a decorated Alliance soldier, they're nowhere near Shepard's level of skill..<_<

[Kabanya101]

I guarantee now that Ash is a Specter, she's going to be the big man on campus and try and do what she wants. And with alien racism she might start shooting people. She lost to Liara for my Shep's attention in ME1, so she might attack Liara and claim self defense.

I personally think the whole idea where the VS is now a Specter is dumb. Kaiden can barely finish a fight without getting a migrane, and Ash lost her whole team on Eden Prime. Then when they try to defend Horizon, they couldn't even get the guns online. And somehow they weren't captured on Horizon, when they were "frozen." And they got unfrozen, what?!? How does that happen, did the Collectors just say, "Hey, we don't need this one, toss her ass to the curb."

The VS shouldn't have even survived on Horizon because in the cutscene we see them get frozen. Yet somehow we get to talk to them because the paralysis wore off, even though everyone else is still paralyzed. Then through their stupidity they get promoted to Specter. I thought Specters had to be soldiers of legend, not dumbasses with a finger of thier ass.

[Undertone]

As much as human-centrist as I am - I'm bloody tired of seeing only human Spectres doing good work or being model Spectres.

Every other bloody Spectre we see in these games dies in the first 5 mins or is rogue agent. I want to see some good alien agents or possibly have a Spectre temporary team for a mission or two in ME3.

[Robhuzz]

Undertone wrote...

As much as human-centrist as I am - I'm bloody tired of seeing only human Spectres doing good work or being model Spectres.

Every other bloody Spectre we see in these games dies in the first 5 mins or is rogue agent. I want to see some good alien agents or possibly have a Spectre temporary team for a mission or two in ME3.

That's what happens when one spectre meets the first human spectre. Ash/Kaidan beware:pinched:

[Darth Wraith]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

How lengthy do you think the review/screening process is? Two years (plus the gap between ME2 and ME3) is more than enough for most people to make up their minds about someone's abilities. Shepard went from nobody to Spectre in 3 hours.

[Heimdall]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
I don't anyone on the crew that saved the citadel from Sovereign would be considered a nobody.

Having a fancy title/rep doesn't mean that you have the abilities required to be a Spectre, though.

Whose to say they don't?  I was always under the impression that most of Shepard's squad were amongst the best.  Hence why Ashley was a squadmate Shepard brought along instead of random Normandy marine #5.  According to Shepard she was over qualified, though I don't know about Kaidan.  If the Turian training programs for young recruits to possibly become Spectres is any indication, one doesn't have to perform an incredible feat to be considered for the Spectres.

I think the VS appointment to the Spectres was partly a political manuever, but I don't think they lack qualifications.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:33 .

[KotorEffect3]

Darth Wraith wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

How lengthy do you think the review/screening process is? Two years (plus the gap between ME2 and ME3) is more than enough for most people to make up their minds about someone's abilities. Shepard went from nobody to Spectre in 3 hours.

Shepard wasn't a nobody.  He already had Akuze, Elysium, or Torfan in his background.  He was already an accomplished marine before ME 1 even began.  Shepard was one of the reasons why Nihlus was on the Normandy.

[azerSheppard]

Robhuzz wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

I got a feeling the council made the VS a spectre so they had someone close to Shepard who could intervene if Shepard did something the council didn't like. A normal Alliance soldier, no matter his/her rank, does not have the authority to intervene with a Spectre's business but another Spectre clearly does. Seems like a political move. Nihlus says only the very best get asked for the Spectres. While the VS is a decorated Alliance soldier, they're nowhere near Shepard's level of skill..<_<

Agree, why rec someone who isn't top of the line from the alliance? There should be enough N7 operatives that rival Sheperd in skill. I'm not saying Alenko would make a bad Spectre, his political views and thoughts about galatic cooperation are def great, but his in-story abilities are lacking.

And just because they "helped defeat Saren" doesn't make em qualified, otherwise one would state that Garrus should also have made it into the Spectres. 

Modifié par azerSheppard, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:36 .

[marshalleck]

Excellent idea. Maybe we'll finally see a Spectre who is both competent and not Shepard.

azerSheppard wrote...

And just because they "helped defeat Saren" doesn't make em qualified, otherwise one would state that Garrus should also have made it into the Spectres. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

And Garrus could have been one, if that's what he wanted. Which he decided he didn't. He was never stricken from Spectre candidacy; he left on his own.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 septembre 2011 - 11:39 .

[Heimdall]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Darth Wraith wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Sounds a little fishy to me. Went from nobodies to Spectres in just over two years? I don't buy that.

How lengthy do you think the review/screening process is? Two years (plus the gap between ME2 and ME3) is more than enough for most people to make up their minds about someone's abilities. Shepard went from nobody to Spectre in 3 hours.

Shepard wasn't a nobody.  He already had Akuze, Elysium, or Torfan in his background.  He was already an accomplished marine before ME 1 even began.  Shepard was one of the reasons why Nihlus was on the Normandy.

  I'm fairly certain Garrus didn't have anything that impressive under his belt when he was targetted as a Spectre candidate along with many others.  Shepard is not the rule for Spectre recruitment.