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[KotorEffect3]

I would because I view as stopping the Reapers and the cycle of galactic genocide as more important than the fate of any single species including our own.  During the ME games the population of Earth is around 11 billion I believe.  There are trillions of people in the galaxy belonging to different advanced civilizations.  As much as I would hate to see Earth and humanity in general bite the dust I would do it to save trillions.

[Zatwu]

Definitely.

[Atakuma]

Yes, because there are tons of humans in other places, so you wouldn't be dooming the species to extinction.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

 Nope. If humanity goes, so does everyone else. I'm too human-centric for that.

[RocketManSR2]

There are still plenty of humans to continue the species, Terra Nova and Eden Prime come to mind. The humans that are left would hate Shepard for it, but the greater good would have been achieved.

- Yes, I would.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 07 septembre 2011 - 01:45 .

[KotorEffect3]

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

 Nope. If humanity goes, so does everyone else. I'm too human-centric for that.

So you would doom everybody (human colonies included) if you can't save earth?

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

 Nope. If humanity goes, so does everyone else. I'm too human-centric for that.

So you would doom everybody (human colonies included) if you can't save earth?

Yep because he is playing a idiot Shepard who doesn't realize how stupid he really is.

[Dave of Canada]

Yes, it isn't like Earth hasn't been farmed by the time we get there.

[Alock1a]

Yes, in a heartbeat. I think a better question is whether someone would sacrifice all humans in the galaxy for the other species' sake. (i.e. stop the reapers permanently)

I would.

[sbvera13]

Earth Dies, Reapers Die: 8,000,000,000 (8 billion) appx. lives lost to Reapers.

Earth Lives, Reapers Live: 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 (2 quintillion) appx. lives lost to Reapers.


That's a guess of course. I based it on the following numbers:

100,000,000,000 (100b) years of life sustainability in the Milky Way (based on the life cycle of our own sun)

1 cycle every 50,000 (50k) years equals 2,000,000 (2m) cycles

100,000,000,000 (100b) lives per cycle (or about 10-15 earth sized planets- a reasonable assumption based on the number of races in the galaxy during Shepard's era).

Cold, hard numbers. Earth's gotta go.

[RPGamer13]

Alock1a wrote...

Yes, in a heartbeat. I think a better question is whether someone would sacrifice all humans in the galaxy for the other species' sake. (i.e. stop the reapers permanently)

I would.

I would too.

I was going to say that not only would I sacrifice earth, but I would sacrifice every other human colony in existence.

[Kaiser Shepard]

No; to prove itself worthy of survival, the galaxy as a whole must fight and sacrifice for it.

[Biotic Sage]

If sacrificing humanity is the only option, and it is guaranteed to work, then yes of course. I mean, your premise basically means that the alternative is saying, "No! If we can't live, then no one can!"

Unless I'm misunderstanding...do you mean that we could potentially stop the Reapers in another way, we just don't know of it yet or know if it will work or not?  If so, then I would be willing to take the risk of refusing to sacrifice humanity/Earth, if the risk is reasonable.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:16 .

[crimzontearz]

yup

and for my act of awesome selfishness I would expect a harem of Asari consorts and a mansion on thessia

just saying

[Annihilator27]

I would sacrafice Earth.Our population would take a hit but we can we'll rebuild.

[Dave of Canada]

sbvera13 wrote...

Cold, hard numbers. Earth's gotta go.

Though, you're not considering the reproduction rate of most other species (wh. Humans are short-lived and have a longer long reproduction rate, other species are either extremely long lived (which a short number could repopulate the entire species) or can reproduce quickly enough to support themselves.

I'm not one to save Earth (I view the Citadel / Arcturus Station more vital for future human interests, Earth can always be a symbol for the Human Council), though numbers aren't usually something you'd have to consider in this case.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:16 .

[Shepard's_Fist]

Absolutely, if humanity's got to take one on the chin for the rest of the galaxy now and forever so be it.

Modifié par ShepherdsFist_1025, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:20 .

[Librarin Solu]

My Renagon would. An Earthborn who left Earth as soon as she could, she hates Vancouver and everyone in it. It's not like her daughters are going be human anyway.

As for my Paragons, maybe. Could you imagine all of Earth being indoctrinated? I'd rather not.

[sbvera13]

Dave of Canada wrote...
... numbers aren't usually something you'd have to consider in this case.

True.  I just found it amusing to see just how big they were.

[JGDD]

I gotta ask...why do you assume the reapers key in on only one system for their initial attack? The way the story goes so far is they will darken the skies of every planet in every system. That kinda makes it pointless to blast one relay to dust to save the rest doesn't it?

Sovereign could have been lying, though I see no reason for it to pump the numbers up during the Virmire mission conversation. It is a machine confident in it's, and the rest of the reapers, abilities to make good with that threat.

So would I blast the relay in Earth's system to sacrifice for the rest of known life in the galaxy? No. Not if the lore is adhered to anyway. It's pointless and would serve no real purpose other than getting humans off the hook in a dramatic way.

Modifié par justgimmedudedammit, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:23 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

No, my body is buried there.

[Dave of Canada]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

I gotta ask...why do you assume the reapers key in on only one system for their initial attack? The way the story goes so far is they will darken the skies of every planet in every system. That kinda makes it pointless to blast one relay to dust to save the rest doesn't it?

Earth is probably the first raided area (Unless they've spread out and attacked all at once, which would mean the Reapers are actually being smart for once) and holds significance to the Reapers.

They've shown interest in turning humans into goo, eliminating Earth and surrounding planets would severely slow their operations down (enough so that they'd have to gather humans spread out throughout the galaxy and bring them to their factory from there).

Reapers would have multiple objectives at this point, which would probably make them more careful (can't laser of death anymore) and spread out their ranks out. Divide and conquer.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:35 .

[111987]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

I gotta ask...why do you assume the reapers key in on only one system for their initial attack? The way the story goes so far is they will darken the skies of every planet in every system. That kinda makes it pointless to blast one relay to dust to save the rest doesn't it?

Sovereign could have been lying, though I see no reason for it to pump the numbers up during the Virmire mission conversation. It is a machine confident in it's, and the rest of the reapers, abilities to make good with that threat.

So would I blast the relay in Earth's system to sacrifice for the rest of known life in the galaxy? No. Not if the lore is adhered to anyway. It's pointless and would serve no real purpose other than getting humans off the hook in a dramatic way.

Sovvy was obviously exaggerating. They didn't even darken Earth's skies.

[TheOptimist]

If it were the only way to stop the Reapers permanently, yes, Shepard would.  Shepard sacrificed 300,000 Batarians to buy the galaxy an extra 6 months.  Buying the races of the galaxy eternal freedom from the Reaper threat? It's not a choice.  That said, Shepard would try literally everything else first.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Yes... ultimately we could move to a new planet.