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[Mikeyzs94]

no tys....earth is my fav planet...it has ramen

[Golden Owl]

mauro2222 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

There are 5 million plus animal species and 250,000 plus plant species living on this planet - not just some up-jumped arrogant monkey.

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No, I would not sacrifice the Earth biosphere to destroy the Reapers.

Lol, so true xD I would do the same

It is so rare to see this fact bought up on the forums....thank you Medhia and Mauro, I am glad you consider this fact and it's importance also.

[CoffeeHolic93]

If it would end the reaper threat permanently, then yes I would sacrifice earth. It would be a sad end, but sacrificing one planet for the good of the entire galaxy would be worth it.

[Computer_God91]

Medhia Nox wrote...
There are 5 million plus animal species and 250,000 plus plant species living on this planet - not just some up-jumped arrogant monkey.

*cough* Ape. *cough*

You do raise a valid point, but still the sacrifice of all that life is worth the life of everything else in the galaxy.

Medhia Nox wrote...

This thread is the reason why I cannot wait for planet Earth's genuine extinction cycle to pick humanity. 

I really doubt nature will kill us off. We have survived so much crap as a species. However with technology crippling us with every passing year it's not exactly out of the question now. I still think it is far more likely we'll die by our own hands.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 08 septembre 2011 - 08:57 .

[Wereparrot]

Absolutely not. The defence of Earth is beyond discussion; the destruction of the reapers is definitely on the agenda but must be a secondary objective to be acheived after the successful defence of the neccessary assets to achieve such a goal. It may well be that attack is the best form of defence, and if the reapers are destroyed through an aggresive defensive policy then all well and good; but to abandon Earth to it's fate is at best a risky strategy to draw the reapers away from their avowed objective to battle them in open space, and at worst folly; since once the Earth is gone, humanity's most important and strongest base is gone.

[The Interloper]

Depends on my shepard.

My myself? I think so. If it saves the rest of the entire damn galaxy for all time, I'd sacrifice a planet.

You will be missed, vorcha.

[SgtElias]

Absolutely.

I don't want to, of course; who honestly wants to watch the entire history of thier species burn? But I would. There are other humans in the galaxy to be considered, not to mention all the other sentient species who would (in theory) be saved.

But if the choice was to watch as the entire galaxy was destroyed planet by planet, species by species, or sacrafice the earth, I'd do it in an instant.

[elearon1]

Depends what you mean by permanently. If you mean it was the only way to get rid of them this time, then the answer would have to be yes ... as horrible as it would be, not defeating the reapers would be worse. If you mean we could chase them off this time, but they'd be back in another 50 thousand years unless the earth was sacrificed, then hell no ... we know about the reapers now and with that kind of time we should be able to kick their arses the next time they show up. (especially if we manage to turn them back in the here and now) Yes, it is possible, even perhaps probably the knowledge would be lost and the next cycle wouldn't know they were coming - but that's a problem for the distant future and there is no knowing what could happen by then.

[Kyria Nyriese]

laecraft wrote...

jreezy wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...
If you sacrifice Earth you're left with less than 1% of the human race.

1%>0%

And 12 > 0. But where are the Protheans now?

Survival of the species is more complicated than simple math. And more variables factor in it than mere numbers. The krogan were very numerous once, and that was what caused their near extinction. The quarians lost their homeworld, yet they survived, even though it's more of an existence on life support than true life.

Some people are making a mistake of thinking that if some of humanity still survives, it's a victory. It is possible to suffer such heavy losses that this "victory" will be too much of a defeat. In our case, the key is our homeworld. If we lose the Earth now, we'll never recover.

While 12 is not a viable gene pool for most species (won't say all becuase I don't know for sure), 7 million is a very viable gene pool for humans.  In fact I do believe that 1 million would be a viable gene pool with little to no inbreeding.

Now with this said, yes I would sacrifice Earth for the greater good of the galaxy.  Once again 11 billion is a lot less than the trillions lost if the galaxy is wiped out.

[ddv.rsa]

My Shep's loyalty is to humanity, not the galaxy. Population numbers are irrelevant. Every alien planet can burn before Earth is sacrificed. If for some reason Earth cannot be saved, then the rest of the galaxy can fall with it.

IMO any Shep that sacrifices Earth is the worst traitor in (future) human history.

[Fixers0]

Sure, no point in wasting your forces trying to save that 'acid waste slum'

We always got Arcturus station, which pretty much surpased earth in usefullness a long time ago.

[RyuujinZERO]

I'd sacrifice half the galaxy and all the council races if it puts a stop to the 50,000 year cycle and allows life to move beyond it's reaper imposed limits. Some things are bigger than any single race...



...of course. I'd start by sacrificing the Asari >:]

[inversevideo]

Yes.

Not much of a choice really.

Stop the Reapers, from coming back to ... well reap.
Or have them wipe us all out.

[Filurija]

In a heartbeat, hate my kind

[Heather Cline]

yes i'd take any surviving people to other planets, those indoctrinated would get shot. those not would be around to repopulate the human race.

[JGDD]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sure, no point in wasting your forces trying to save that 'acid waste slum'

We always got Arcturus station, which pretty much surpased earth in usefullness a long time ago.

I'm not sure you understand the implications here. Sacrificing Earth alone will do nothing. Think they just do their deed and stick around tap dancing on buildings forever? You need to destroy the entire system, Acrturus station included. It only has a population of 45,000~. Hardly a giant building block for the future of humanity.

[Last Vizard]

Medhia Nox wrote...

This thread is the reason why I cannot wait for planet Earth's genuine extinction cycle to pick humanity.

There are 5 million plus animal species and 250,000 plus plant species living on this planet - not just some up-jumped arrogant monkey.

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Given the hypothetical that my decision alone decides the fate of space faring species...

No, I would not sacrifice the Earth biosphere to destroy the Reapers.

Once the Reapers are done with their cycle - the Earth biosphere will remain and possibly produce another sapient life form, maybe not. Other planets certainly would - and human level intelligence is not "the goal" in my not at all humble opinion.

Perhaps I'm the ultimate Utilitarian - the needs of the many truly outweigh the needs of one talking monkey species.

That isn't to say I wouldn't fight against the Reapers until I was destroyed - but such a simplistic decision of "destroy the Earth biosphere and kill the Reapers" - I could not condemn that level of biodiversity to annihilation (and it's not even extinction - extinction "can" imply that species simply altered a form - like dinosaurs to avians.)

So how would a Utopion species like the Hanar stop the Reaper cycle?... they all sing around a camp fire till Reaper flys bye a couple of times and sees them accomplish nothing due to the fact that WARFARE is what drives technology!

Ok maybe they have a different drive to help their own people instead of building weapons to protect and enslave, so medical tech is pretty good but band aids isn't going to blow Reapers out of space now is it?

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

To my Shepard, how you do things is as important as why you do things, so I could sacrifice earth to stop the reaper only if I have no way to save it and the rest of the galaxy from them.
If it is just because it is the option which have the best chances of succes, then I'll just try the other options and make it work.

[zingro]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I would because I view as stopping the Reapers and the cycle of galactic genocide as more important than the fate of any single species including our own.  During the ME games the population of Earth is around 11 billion I believe.  There are trillions of people in the galaxy belonging to different advanced civilizations.  As much as I would hate to see Earth and humanity in general bite the dust I would do it to save trillions.

Yes I would sacrifice our Home

Sacrificing this beautiful gem we call Earth would be profoundly traumatic to any remaining humans thoughout the galaxy, but Im sure we would recover and rebuild a new home to call our own. Just thinking about is hard enough, I mean deeply.. truly, imagining that thought of destroying the mother of our race that has nurtured humanity for so long... not to mention all the other forms of life on this planet that we share our air with.



Self interest vs self sacrifice...  Its a nightmare of a decision but .. a no brainer, sadly it has to be done.

Not cool OP, for such a horrible question<_<

[AlexXIV]

Against the Reapers you have nothing to lose, since their resolution of the war is final. No one survives unless they are Reaper pets like the Collectors. So yeah, sacrifice Earth and everything and everyone else if need be.

[Dougyfresh15x]

shepard will find a way without sacrificing any race

[Doctoglethorpe]

Only as a last resort that it would never come to because Shepard don't roll like that.

[bmwcrazy]

Hell no.