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[Whatever42]

I'm far, far too petty. The rest of the galaxy needs to understand that they have to save Earth if they want my Shepard to save them from the Reapers.

[Golden Owl]

If Shep really had to, no other way apparent at all...yes...but is something he would never forgive himself for.

[JGDD]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Earth is probably the first raided area (Unless they've spread out and attacked all at once, which would mean the Reapers are actually being smart for once) and holds significance to the Reapers.

They've shown interest in turning humans into goo, eliminating Earth and surrounding planets would severely slow their operations down (enough so that they'd have to gather humans spread out throughout the galaxy and bring them to their factory from there).

Reapers would have multiple objectives at this point, which would probably make them more careful (can't laser of death anymore) and spread out their ranks out. Divide and conquer.

They've shown interest in turning all forms of life into reaper paste. That's just the way it is. Dedicating all their assets to just one form of life...boogles the mind of how poorly that would be lore and story-wise. I sincerely hope that whoever is writing the story line doesn't make a complete u-turn here and finally disclose it's only about 16 reapers in reality... The numbers need to be staggering or it's a sell out to me and everyone else that has gotten this far.

[PauseforEffect]

Not without throwing up every time Shepard has to think about it.

[Dave of Canada]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

They've shown interest in turning all forms of life into reaper paste. That's just the way it is.

Nope.

Taken from the wikia, which quotes Harbinger:

“Quarian; considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weakened immune system too debilitating.”

“Drell; useless, insufficient numbers.”

“Human; viable possibility, aggression factor useful if controlled.”

“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”

“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”

“Geth; an annoyance, limited utility.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive technical potential.”

“Human; viable possibility, if emotional drives are subjugated.”

“Human; viable possibility, great biotic potential.”

“Krogan; sterilised race, potential wasted.”

“Turian; you are considered...too primitive.”

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 septembre 2011 - 03:14 .

[looloolooigotsomeapples]

Without question, be it Earth or humanity. For future civilizations to be able to prosper as well as keeping the current generation of other species alive.

[l7986]

Only if all the batarians get sacrificed first.

[Graceyn]

Yes, absolutely. There are enough humans settled off-Earth that it would not be an extinction event for humanity. If it meant ending the Reaper threat for all sentient races in the galaxy, that would be a price, though horrific, worth paying.

I think this is true for all my Shepards - Paragon, Paragade and Renegade (though even my Renegade isn't really anti-alien).

[KotorEffect3]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

I gotta ask...why do you assume the reapers key in on only one system for their initial attack? The way the story goes so far is they will darken the skies of every planet in every system. That kinda makes it pointless to blast one relay to dust to save the rest doesn't it?

Sovereign could have been lying, though I see no reason for it to pump the numbers up during the Virmire mission conversation. It is a machine confident in it's, and the rest of the reapers, abilities to make good with that threat.

So would I blast the relay in Earth's system to sacrifice for the rest of known life in the galaxy? No. Not if the lore is adhered to anyway. It's pointless and would serve no real purpose other than getting humans off the hook in a dramatic way.

The question is more of a way to see what people's value judgments are.  Honestly I don't know how the invasion will play out other than that the reapers are moving from "south" to "north".  But it is safe to say that they will probably split the bulk of their forces between earth and a few other homeworlds and other important strategic points.  So wiping out a system could wipe out a signficant part of the reaper forces giving the rest of the galaxy a chance.  But like I said the question was more about player priorities and value judgments.

[MasterShepardN7]

I honestly don't have enough info. to make a decision like that. I say this because usually when you make a big decision like that you have more to go off of. We wouldn't necessarily know why it would be beneficial to destroy one planet amongst the what hundreds/thousands of other ones? That and I really don't see how destroying one planet could stop ALL of the Reaper.

[JGDD]

Dave of Canada wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

They've shown interest in turning all forms of life into reaper paste. That's just the way it is.

Nope.

Taken from the wikia, which quotes Harbinger:

“Quarian; considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weakened immune system too debilitating.”

“Drell; useless, insufficient numbers.”

“Human; viable possibility, aggression factor useful if controlled.”

“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”

“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”

“Geth; an annoyance, limited utility.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive technical potential.”

“Human; viable possibility, if emotional drives are subjugated.”

“Human; viable possibility, great biotic potential.”

“Krogan; sterilised race, potential wasted.”

“Turian; you are considered...too primitive.”

Of course it says that. We also know they wipe out every advanced lifeform and start the cycle all over again. They will not leave inferior species to proliferate. Make room for the next batch kind of thing.


@ kotoreffect3 - Yes I realize that, but you can't just pose an all or nothing question without looking at the picture and facts we do have. I still stand by my solid no.

[1136342t54_]

MasterShepardN7 wrote...

I honestly don't have enough info. to make a decision like that. I say this because usually when you make a big decision like that you have more to go off of. We wouldn't necessarily know why it would be beneficial to destroy one planet amongst the what hundreds/thousands of other ones? That and I really don't see how destroying one planet could stop ALL of the Reaper.

This is a hypothetical situation as if ALL THE REAPERS COULD BE  DESTROYED by sacrificing Earth.

[Quole]

Personally, I would sacrifice humanity for my own pleasure.

[WOLF_00]

In Arrival DLC; players forced to destroy a system to delay Reaper invasion, where it was Colonized by hundred of thousands of Batarians. The Batarians won't affected by such loss however, destroying of an intelligent race to save the other, isn't logical solution at all. All loses shall be shared across all races in my opinion.

[Quole]

Dave of Canada wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

They've shown interest in turning all forms of life into reaper paste. That's just the way it is.

Nope.

Taken from the wikia, which quotes Harbinger:

“Quarian; considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weakened immune system too debilitating.”

“Drell; useless, insufficient numbers.”

“Human; viable possibility, aggression factor useful if controlled.”

“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”

“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”

“Geth; an annoyance, limited utility.”

“Human; viable possibility, impressive technical potential.”

“Human; viable possibility, if emotional drives are subjugated.”

“Human; viable possibility, great biotic potential.”

“Krogan; sterilised race, potential wasted.”


“Turian; you are considered...too primitive.”

That right there is the one thing I hate about ME. Humans are `special` for some reason.

Modifié par Quole, 07 septembre 2011 - 04:06 .

[Skullheart]

I will sacrifice Earth only as last resort. Before that I will sacrifice Thessia, Sur'Kesh, Palaven, The migrant fleet, Rannoch, the Citadel.

[1136342t54_]

WOLF_00 wrote...

In Arrival DLC; players forced to destroy a system to delay Reaper invasion, where it was Colonized by hundred of thousands of Batarians. The Batarians won't affected by such loss however, destroying of an intelligent race to save the other, isn't logical solution at all. All loses shall be shared across all races in my opinion.

Incorrect. Most of the planet is likely already Reaper chow and destroying Earth will only take out the Majority of humanity leaving millions more to continue the species.

[Dave of Canada]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Of course it says that. We also know they wipe out every advanced lifeform and start the cycle all over again. They will not leave inferior species to proliferate. Make room for the next batch kind of thing.

They wipe them out, they just don't turn them into toothpaste.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 septembre 2011 - 04:19 .

[Leonia]

Wouldn't even hesitate, and given the backgrounds for Shepard not even an Earthborn would miss Earth too much.. that said, who knows if stopping the cycle is actually a "good thing" ?

[Evilatem]

Quole wrote...

Personally, I would sacrifice humanity for my own pleasure.

You and me both.

This solar system needs an enema.

When I'm God everyone dies.

Burn, baby, burn.

Modifié par Evilatem, 07 septembre 2011 - 04:31 .

[Swords and Lasers]

Yep. Most of you Earthlings are jerks anyway. Win/Win

[JGDD]

Dave of Canada wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Of course it says that. We also know they wipe out every advanced lifeform and start the cycle all over again. They will not leave inferior species to proliferate. Make room for the next batch kind of thing.

They wipe them out, they just don't turn them into toothpaste.

I beg for your forgiveness of saying they turned everything into paste. You are correct, they do not. I will try not to generalize any more since the only thing here that counts is literal definitions. Feel better now? YOU WON.

Anyway, the point still stands that advanced life is going to go one way or another. Paste in the veins of reapers, or paste under their heel.

And I still will not terminate humanity until I know all the angles. Period.

[Omega4RelayResident]

I have come to the conclusion and accepted the fact that not everything can end well...

[ohbobsagetpiss]

Saphra Deden wrote...

My main motivation for stopping the Reaper cycle is to save my own species. If I can't save my species then it isn't worth it to try and stop the Reaper cycle. If we die everyone should die.

Yup. That's how i feel.