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[YouthCultureForever]

ashwind wrote...

YouthCultureForever wrote...

I would not sacrifice Earth. No way. I don't care if it would be considered a selflish, human centric, or foolish action. Earth stays.

Yeah, the Reapers arent known for destroying planets, so earth will stay regardless. The question is, which will be the dominant species when the Reapers are done harvesting earth.

The original question was phrased to address my intent toward Earth, not speculate on politics. Would I destroy Earth to stop the Reapers? No. I'm simply answering a question.

Modifié par YouthCultureForever, 07 septembre 2011 - 03:14 .

[lovgreno]

Yes, Earth and humanity is rather crippled anyway after the sacking of Earth so it wouldn't make much difference.

[stysiaq]

Sacrificing Earth is unrealistic thing to do. If this is the only way to save the galaxy I doubt it will be single man's choice.

Without the homeworld humanity will be quickly enslaved by other races, once the Reaper threat is over.

[matt-bassist]

Not only should that be an option, it should be the ULTIMATE PARAGON option - Sacrificing a few for the greater good.

[Confused-Shepard]

In a heartbeat. Earth is lost. We humans are a resilient species.
We'll miss our blue mother but we will carry on, we will prevail, we will survive.

Seriously, Bioware enough pandering to the hairless apes! Let us blow up Earth!

Modifié par Confused-Shepard, 07 septembre 2011 - 04:20 .

[Ramus Quaritch]

In short, yes. If I could wipe out the Reapers by causing the sun to go super nova (or by destroying the Mass Relay), I would do it.

[Quole]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

 Bah, most of you people disgust me.

Almost everything you say disgusts me.

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

stysiaq wrote...

Sacrificing Earth is unrealistic thing to do. If this is the only way to save the galaxy I doubt it will be single man's choice.

Without the homeworld humanity will be quickly enslaved by other races, once the Reaper threat is over.

We do have other colonies, and the Alliance is based at Arcturus, so we'd still have the fleet to defend our interests.

[mauro2222]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
Sacrifice themselves? They were victims of bad planning and no foresight. I'd hardly call that laying down gracefully.

Hmmmm....Sounds like another species I know of....finding prothean technology on Mars was what saved them from their own self infected, made vile surroundings.

True. But humans were smart enough to use that gift from the ancients and keep themselves from devolving into what the Drell did. Therefore we are superior.

The Drell didn't discovered mass effect technology... If it wasn't for the Hanars they wouldn't had left their homeworld or even know what eezo is.
All species in the Mass Effect universe are the same ignorant pieces of ****, they all are "advanced" and "civilized", yet they still live under "space" capitalism and elitist goverments. Although, from the reapers point of view, is good, they are all separated, they hate each other, they kill each other, and they compete for everything, just like humans of modern times.

Modifié par mauro2222, 07 septembre 2011 - 05:03 .

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

mauro2222 wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
Sacrifice themselves? They were victims of bad planning and no foresight. I'd hardly call that laying down gracefully.

Hmmmm....Sounds like another species I know of....finding prothean technology on Mars was what saved them from their own self infected, made vile surroundings.

True. But humans were smart enough to use that gift from the ancients and keep themselves from devolving into what the Drell did. Therefore we are superior.

The Drell didn't discovered mass effect technology... If it wasn't for the Hanars they wouldn't had left their homeworld or even know what eezo is.
All species in the Mass Effect universe are the same ignorant pieces of ****, they all are "advanced" and "civilized", yet they still live under "space" capitalism and elitist goverments. Although, from the reapers point of view, is good, they are all separated, they hate each other, they kill each other, and they compete for everything, just like humans of modern times.

Isn't it called 'Divide and Conquer', enemies fighting each other are less effective at fighting you.

[ashwind]

YouthCultureForever wrote...

ashwind wrote...

YouthCultureForever wrote...

I would not sacrifice Earth. No way. I don't care if it would be considered a selflish, human centric, or foolish action. Earth stays.

Yeah, the Reapers arent known for destroying planets, so earth will stay regardless. The question is, which will be the dominant species when the Reapers are done harvesting earth.

The original question was phrased to address my intent toward Earth, not speculate on politics. Would I destroy Earth to stop the Reapers? No. I'm simply answering a question.

Ah, I wasnt speculating on politics. Allow me to re-phrase:
The question is, which will be the dominant species on earth after the Repears are done harvesting all humans on earth.

[mauro2222]

Big_Stupid_Jelly wrote...

Isn't it called 'Divide and Conquer', enemies fighting each other are less effective at fighting you.

Exactly...

See, the reapers aren`t so stupid after all.

Modifié par mauro2222, 07 septembre 2011 - 05:11 .

[TheShadowWolf911]

save as many as possible before doing it, but you can't argue with numbers.

Earths gotta go.

[JGDD]

mauro2222 wrote...

The Drell didn't discovered mass effect technology... If it wasn't for the Hanars they wouldn't had left their homeworld or even know what eezo is.
All species in the Mass Effect universe are the same ignorant pieces of ****, they all are "advanced" and "civilized", yet they still live under "space" capitalism and elitist goverments. Although, from the reapers point of view, is good, they are all separated, they hate each other, they kill each other, and they compete for everything, just like humans of modern times.

I wouldn't call them ignorant. They are doing nothing less than what comes naturally. Surviving. Some are just better equipped to do so.

[mauro2222]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

The Drell didn't discovered mass effect technology... If it wasn't for the Hanars they wouldn't had left their homeworld or even know what eezo is.
All species in the Mass Effect universe are the same ignorant pieces of ****, they all are "advanced" and "civilized", yet they still live under "space" capitalism and elitist goverments. Although, from the reapers point of view, is good, they are all separated, they hate each other, they kill each other, and they compete for everything, just like humans of modern times.

I wouldn't call them ignorant. They are doing nothing less than what comes naturally. Surviving. Some are just better equipped to do so.

They stick to the easy path, so yes, they are pretty much ignorant to other things. I would even dare to say that the Ferengi are more social or equalitarians than most of them. And "all species" includes us here.

Modifié par mauro2222, 07 septembre 2011 - 05:33 .

[LGTX]

Once again, in my opinion, this war isn't about preferences falling under personal views.

This is a war between us - not humans, but ORGANICS - against a common enemy.

If I start prioritizing INSIDE that thinking, trying to establish a quality of life BEFORE ensuring said life will even be there, I'll be extremely limited in my tactics and ways of waging - and winning - the numerous battles ahead.

I care equally about a result where humanity is wiped out, where humanity is the only one left standing, and where the happy galaxy rejoices under a banner painted in rainbow colors. My priority is to ensure the survival of ORGANIC LIFE. I can take care of the selfish details after that particular problem, involving a galactic apocalypse mind you, is resolved.

Modifié par LGTX, 07 septembre 2011 - 05:40 .

[JGDD]

mauro2222 wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

The Drell didn't discovered mass effect technology... If it wasn't for the Hanars they wouldn't had left their homeworld or even know what eezo is.
All species in the Mass Effect universe are the same ignorant pieces of ****, they all are "advanced" and "civilized", yet they still live under "space" capitalism and elitist goverments. Although, from the reapers point of view, is good, they are all separated, they hate each other, they kill each other, and they compete for everything, just like humans of modern times.

I wouldn't call them ignorant. They are doing nothing less than what comes naturally. Surviving. Some are just better equipped to do so.

They stick to the easy path, so yes, they are pretty much ignorant to other things. I would even dare to say that the Ferengi are more social or equalitarians than most of them.

Let's keep other franchises out of this.

The easy path? Competing with other species on a galactic scale would be far from easy. Successful species rise to the top. Like Asari, Salarians, Turians, and Humans. The rest are footnotes in comparison. While they're shown compassion from the more dominant species, they are not even close to playing in the same league. And by compassion I mean the big guns do not completely wipe them out for their own ends. Utopian views are great on paper, they have little bearing on reality though.

[JGDD]

PurebredCorn wrote...

"Would you sacrifice Earth if by doing so you could stop the reapers permanently?"

There's really no choice. Humanity is doomed either way, so if Earth can't be saved, as horrible a thought as that is, then it's a terrible but necessary sacrifice. Humanity could at least still survive. Ugh, nasty thought, but interesting question.

Not so fast...the question is ambiguous at best. Are you 100% certain Earth is a total loss? It leans more toward the easy way out.

[mauro2222]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

The Drell didn't discovered mass effect technology... If it wasn't for the Hanars they wouldn't had left their homeworld or even know what eezo is.
All species in the Mass Effect universe are the same ignorant pieces of ****, they all are "advanced" and "civilized", yet they still live under "space" capitalism and elitist goverments. Although, from the reapers point of view, is good, they are all separated, they hate each other, they kill each other, and they compete for everything, just like humans of modern times.

I wouldn't call them ignorant. They are doing nothing less than what comes naturally. Surviving. Some are just better equipped to do so.

They stick to the easy path, so yes, they are pretty much ignorant to other things. I would even dare to say that the Ferengi are more social or equalitarians than most of them.

Let's keep other franchises out of this.

The easy path? Competing with other species on a galactic scale would be far from easy. Successful species rise to the top. Like Asari, Salarians, Turians, and Humans. The rest are footnotes in comparison. While they're shown compassion from the more dominant species, they are not even close to playing in the same league. And by compassion I mean the big guns do not completely wipe them out for their own ends. Utopian views are great on paper, they have little bearing on reality though.

It`s all hypotetical, we both know that the Asari, Turians, Salarians, Volus, Elcor, Batarians, Humans, are all of our sick modern culture. For what to us today is utopian, and I mean in reality, for a space civilization is something of a common day. And you can argue with Michio Kaku or Jacque Fresco about that.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Imagine all of the fun people will have for centuries sifting through the ruins of Earth anyway.

[JGDD]

ReconTeam wrote...

Imagine all of the fun people will have for centuries sifting through the ruins of Earth anyway.

Incorrect. The only proven method of containing the reapers is if they are all, by some serious lack of judgement and poor writing, attacking Earth at the same time and destroying the relay. There would be nothing left to sift through. It's gone.

[sgtrock]

only if humanity goes down fighting, we have to just hurl everything we have at the reapers. every soldier, every artillery shell, every tank, and every nuke.

[EarthAlliance]

i doif a choice like that is in the game ,me3 is not worth buying